I remember reading Kafka when I was young and naive, thinking things could never get like that here.
Artis said that after buying his dinner at the Armadillo Grill, he “quietly began to eat his taco, waiting for the bus,” when [officer] Rollins “approached Artis on foot … and asked if a beer was his.”
“Artis leaned forward and saw what appeared to be a discarded can of beer that had been concealed from his view” by a newspaper rack. He says he told Rollins, “‘Why, Officer, if that beer were mine, I would be enjoying it with my meal.’” And he resumed eating his taco.
He says Rollins asked him for ID, then “Without either warning or being told he was under arrest, Rollins grabbed Artis by his still taco-laden arm, and spun Artis around with great force, which pivoted Artis on his left leg and sent the hapless taco flying.”
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“All of Artis’ weight was still on his left leg from being spun by Rollins, and Artis felt and heard his lower left leg sicken[ing]ly crack when Rollins swept-kicked him.”Artis adds that he “was not in possession of a deadly weapon; he was, however, in legal and actual possession of a taco, which Artis did not wield in any threatening manner.”
And that was only the start of his insane journey through our fine justice system. RTFA to see what happens next.
Any one that thinks police brutality is somehow more disposed to occur to day than in the past would flunk history. This has gone on for decades just ask the nice folks especially minorities about the south in the 30′s 40′s 50′s 60′s 70′s 80′s and 90′s. The only real difference was there was no social media to post it on.
He should have simply told the officer no sir its not my beer. Most folk are not as funny as Gabriel Iglesias http://tinyurl.com/234ryyr
#12 John C Dvorak
I will not call a police officer Sir. I will either call him whatever rank he is or Officer.
The police are supposed to be servants of the public, not the other way round.
I work in a hospital and frequently use the word there to members of the public as in that event I am the public servant.
I also used it in the army and, before that, at school. (I also use the word “ma’am” to address females I judge to be old enough not to be confused by it.)
# 21 So what said
Anything less or more then “no sir” is tantamount to a criminal offense in your mind.
Maybe it should communicated to the public by enshrining it in law; something along the line Yes, boss or No boss, else we have “Failure To Communicate“
No, its called being polite. I’d call you sir if you weren’t an asshole.
# 24 So what said,
Personally I don’t like being called “sir”.
I find it impolite and insincere to assume that everyone is that fragile and needs that for their self-worth.
I actually think less of people, (I think they are really are Deliverance characters, scared or ignorant) who call me sir! I usually insist, not to call me sir.
I know some people, particularly in the south are raised that way, Deliverance style; full of false pretenses.
Me, I work for a living and don’t think I should be elevated above others by some insincere, unjustified or false pretenses greeting of “sir”. I believe I am an equal and should be treated as such. I expect the same of others. If that make me an “asshole”, then so be it.
Again, does the lack of “Yes Sir”, “No Sir” deserve a beating and broken bones by a forgetful cop? Is all of America just some back-country where cops rule like kings?
I guess, your moma, never taught you
sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you”. Do you even know what that means?
How can you be so out of touch with American purpose and reality?
#25 You assume sir is always a sign of respect. Apparently you were never in the military. From your posting its pretty clear you won’t have to worry about respect. Now go troll somewhere else youngster.
# 26 So what said,
“Apparently you were never in the military.”
Really, you are truly boundless in your ignorance and assumptions!
I have served in the military. In fact, I come from a military family. I myself was enlisted. When people mistakenly call me sir, I corrected them by saying I work for a living.
You should know this, instinctively, if indeed you have served in the military!!! Have you? It seems those who haven’t served, claim to know the most about serving!
By the way, saying “I work for a living.” is very common if not universal among the enlisted, in all branches.
I since have gone to college (like some of the jack ass officers I served under) and have gotten my masters in physics. Again, I don’t expect or want people to call me sir. I do not see “Sir” as a sign of respect.
If I can’t treat a person as an equal, then I really would rather not deal with that person.
I eminencely dislike greetings of false pretenses, as it sets up people as unequals.
I do not like working with people in unequal, undemocratic, humiliating, and submissive relationships. I show respect by treating people as equals.
This is after all the 21st century in America.
I suggest you follow your own advice # 26 So what said, “Now go troll somewhere else youngster.”
And you assumed that I felt the police attack was justified. Pot meet kettle there sparky. Not even a good attempt care to try again,
Nazism is alive and well right here in Amerika and they wear police uniforms
# 28 So what, Not so clever; you will need to point out where in my post(s) I claimed or assumed you “felt the police attack was justified. Pot meet kettle there sparky.” as you say?
It seems you assumed, I had assumed; which of course is incorrect.
All I did in my post, is point out my disregards of someone displaying their ineptitude in addressing me with sir, and how I dislike working with people in unequal, undemocratic, humiliating, and submissive relationships!
Yet, you somehow in some mental gymnastics or just brain misfire, acquired and indeed insisted that I had assumed; which I had not assumed.
Some would call that, lazy and inept thinking. I’ll leave it at, what others call it.
“noname”, you win —– this thread’s posts from “So what” aren’t enuff to decide whether this is just a hiccup of his which we all can have, or if he is truly a total asshole.
Just in case Animby cruises by:
Saw Dr. Mcwhorter on Book tv. He says our standard revered languages (English, French) are simple compared to less known even entirely verbal languages and that the claimed sophistication of word counts is very illusory.
English has written dictionaires that capture words no longer actually used. He estimated that all languages are about the same with 20-30K words actually used. English is the simplest with basically no male/female conjugations and many no singular/plural conjugations as many other more complicated languages have. In his view “is” and “was” can be considered the same word and the conjugation is “irregular.” Most of our plurals are built by adding an “s” to the end. Imagine a language where every plural is a completely different word? Much more complicated than English was his point.
I know some of you are thinking: “How is this fricken relevant to the topic?”
Ha, ha.
One example McWhorter gave was “ruth” as a counted English Word that doesn’t actually count. Anyone know what it means? You can use in playing scrabble if you wish. It is the root and the opposite of “ruthless.” All the “xxxxx – less” words are represented in English but not in any non written language. Once not used, they are lost forever. Not so with English.
Ruthless is used in the Cartoon Heading this topic. Everything actually is connected to everything else.
Yea, verily.
#25–noname==irritating side bar you had to go down there. I remember a top sarge of mine saying that the salute was just the military way of saying hi and someone in the group said loud enough to be heard: “…and sir means asshole.”
I still laugh today over that—and still use it. It was worth the extra mile we had to run.
We hoomans are word users. We can make them mean whatever we want to. Just like the subject cop did.
Ceremony and protocols. Dogma. Devil’s work.
Yes, sir.
Yes sirree, bobbo!===can’t have any redundancy now which is a good thing.
Ha, ha.
Sorry to go all monopoly on youse guys but Its a holiday.
I recall an employee who used to call me “Boss.” “Yes, Boss” and “No, Boss.” Totally correct, no tone of voice.
I have very much the same attitude as noname although I enjoy joying others a sign of respect in salutation. Often hard to do, especially me, without coming off looking sarcastic.
But my employee did. I never corrected him and always smiled back and he always smiled. He like fat women. LOVED fat women just like his wife. Had missing front teeth. Drank in the morning but was never drunk. From the south–I assumed–but never knew.
Good man. After him on occasion I wanted to call my bosses “Mr Boss man” in respect for my old employee. I never did. I have all my teeth.
Ha, ha.
#23
“# 21 So what said
Anything less or more then “no sir” is tantamount to a criminal offense in your mind.”
So exactly where did I say or imply that? Guess while getting that “I work for a living” degree in “physics” you skipped reading comprehension.
#34 “Sorry to go all monopoly on youse guys but Its a holiday.” Bullshit you do it holiday or not.
So what: well, you got me there==but my “mood” is different and you can’t tell mood from mere words, so I included it.
Good one.
#25
I was raised to always address an unknown male as Sir and an unknown female as Ma’am. I was also in the enlisted core of the military and had several people request of me not to call them sir, I always responded with “yes Ma’am.” If you can’t respect my upbringing enough to accept a polite form of address then I no longer feel the need to show any respect to you at all.
Namxax–and what do you demonstrate except everyone wanting to impose their childhood upbringing on everyone else. That doesn’t show “respect” as much as it demonstrates and inability to learn after age 8.
Do you still use all the respectful language you learned at age 8 or did you progress to a society wider than your trailer park?
I could go on, but its a Holiday.
#6,
I agree, a simple no would have blocked the frustrated cop and he would have moved on to the next potential victime.
Sad that abuse of power is everywhere and manifests in many forms but it is here to stay. I don’t blame the taco eater. I hate cops in general.