The FBI is teaching its counterterrorism agents that “main stream” [sic] American Muslims are likely to be terrorist sympathizers; that the Prophet Mohammed was a “cult leader”; and that the Islamic practice of giving charity is no more than a “funding mechanism for combat.”
At the Bureau’s training ground in Quantico, Virginia, agents are shown a chart contending that the more “devout” a Muslim, the more likely he is to be “violent.” Those destructive tendencies cannot be reversed, an FBI instructional presentation adds: “Any war against non-believers is justified” under Muslim law; a “moderating process cannot happen if the Koran continues to be regarded as the unalterable word of Allah.”
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The FBI isn’t just treading on thin legal ice by portraying ordinary, observant Americans as terrorists-in-waiting, former counterterrorism agents say. It’s also playing into al-Qaida’s hands.Focusing on the religious behavior of American citizens instead of proven indicators of criminal activity like stockpiling guns or using shady financing makes it more likely that the FBI will miss the real warning signs of terrorism. And depicting Islam as inseparable from political violence is exactly the narrative al-Qaida spins — as is the related idea that America and Islam are necessarily in conflict. That’s why FBI whistleblowers provided Danger Room with these materials.
It’s nice to know that at least one government agency understands the insidiousness of the threat.
Addressing several issues: Lefties in Germany are bashing the Pope for bashing the Muslims.
Yes–homogeneity does provide for stability.
Just another factor when looking at violence in Muslim countries. In Saudi Arabia, its against the law to build a christian church. I wonder how other faiths are welcomed in that COUNTRY by LAW?
How much peace and non-violence in Arab-Muslim countries is the rule because all/most of non conforming people/ideas have already been stamped out?
I had a work mate who was a Catholic Arab from Egypt-an expert in cotton. He left because of the bigotry against him from other Arab Muslims. As you say Greg–very nice guy. I would let him shave me any day of the week.
http://de/opinion/20110913-37561.html
Awesome repartee in this thread.
It adds to the conundrum of why most of you will join the sheeple masses in culpability for re-electing Rs and Ds in the next election and pat yourselves on the back for doing it.
There is no rational explanation.
I see nothing wrong with that pic. It’s pretty much accurate. A bit exaggerated, but not by much.
#3 I guess you can’t read and have absolutely no critical thinking.
#8 Colonization of foreign lands is/was about money & power, not religion. The other two were.
#15 Pretty much agree with you, but there are plenty of examples of non catholic politicians in the US. Weiner wasn’t a catholic, was he?
#18 pondered: “Are you THAT naive or intellectually dishonest?”
The latter (and not the day saints). Thought you would have noticed by now.
#22 Just like thinking that an ignorant sheeple like you is not dangerous.
#23 Weren’t the guys that operated on 9/11 living in the US? Tell me they weren’t
#27 That’s what you wrote during your last 3rd class break?
#43 Impossible to make a better summary.
The issue still remains in all cases of the theist and the atheist, that they are still humans.
And humans have a very defined history in using any excuse possible to kill one another off if they cannot control each other.
Religion or the lack thereof is merely an excuse.
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FBI Cooking up a HOLY WAR !!!
#43–P/M==THAT again? A FAIL on dealing with reality. Yes, the subject of this thread is National Security as it relates to the contest between Freedom of Religion that is protected and maintained by our Government ((the First and many say only legitimate function of the Frederal Government)) and an external threat from a religion that expressly states there should only be one Religion on earth and governments/freedom is not required beyond their religious tenants.
Gary says no Muslim has ever cut his throat so we should believe they don’t believe their religion. I’m called a bigot because I say it is an open question that reasonable people can differ on but that certainly presents a risk.
You say we should vote for Ralph Nader or Perot or I suppose now for Ron Paul?
You may or may not be right ((Yes, I’d give you odds)) but you post like Alfie turning every issue into an expression of your own mania. More minus than plus.
Like your fanciful candidates, you are more minus than plus. Silly Hooman.
17, Bobbo,
Whenever a radical Christian, Jew, etc does something bad, members of the religion are quick to denounce the act because it goes against their religious norm.
Whenever a Muslim does something bad, little to no one says ANYTHING to denounce the perpetrator. They are TOLERANT of the evil deed while the other groups are not. That is the norm for “mainstream” Muslims. There is a big distinction. Tolerance of the evil deeds fosters more acts.
20, Bobbo,
Don’t be so hard on yourself.
They’re rebuked by nearly all of those in the particular religion. Not so in Islam. You can barely find a handful of Muslim leaders rebuking evil acts committed by their own members. You’re turning a blind eye.
21, Drive By Poster,
Minor oversights for Bobbo.
25, Bobbo,
So are religions flawed for having high standards? When someone falls off the wagon is this demonstrative that the religion is bad?
What religious law do you oppose that puts its followers’ souls at risk for failure to obey? Are the laws generally bad laws or do you oppose them simply because of the source of the laws?
32, GregAllen,
You think a history lesson is going to make Bobbo understand history or Communism? Ha! He’s too partisan.
33, GregAllen,
Three quarters or more of that billion are tolerant or indifferent about the violent acts of those thousands and don’t bother to condemn those thousands as not being representative of their religion or beliefs.
40, Bobbo,
HAVE State Atheism.
It still does. This is why people cannot openly worship with non-State produced holy books without getting arrested.
42, Bobbo,
You pay a tax for not being Muslim and you can get arrested for proselytizing anything other than Islam.
44, Pedro,
It was meant to be rhetorical.
Uncle Dave,
Read the Koran yourself. Don’t let anyone tell you what it says.
Understand how Mohammad instructed the faithful to handle us non-believers.
And then understand that the FBI is right.
The yellow streak down the back of DU’s progressive leftists, is showing again.
One thing about sharia law that might not be so bad, is the wholesale extermination of leftist progressive infidels.
I’ll make it easy for you pukes:
http://www.attackwatch.com/
http://attackwatch.com/
Hey Guyver–well done. Pretty too. If it weren’t Friday, I’d respond in detail but to one point: any religious tenant that goes to “the religion” rather than getting along with others is, very simply is, evil. Take the Bible. Are there 10 commandments or 283 or some other number if you include lessons from parables and all the rest? I will not stone a person for working on the Sabbath. Knowing that, I can’t say everything in the Bible is worthy and after saying that, each issue has to stand on its own merits.
Same with the Koran. But the link above to how to interpret the Koran is VERY instructive===assuming its true? Ha, ha.
Yes–when does a cohort of a group exercise so much power that it doesn’t matter what the other 1 Billion think? Does it matter what all the good Iranian Muslims think and would prefer to do when their support empowers the cohort who will Nuke Israel?
Does it matter how many GregAllens there are when the cohort is empowered to deny stem cell research in America?
Understanding group dynamics. What controls? The herd or the Judas?
Good post.
All this stuff in the lead article, sounds a bit familiar. Like when the Irish Catholics were actively bombing London. And getting funds from Catholics in other countries, including the US. But I don’t remember hearing the FBI training their agents to think of all Catholics as potential violent terrorists. I’m sure Rome’s “lobby” in congress has something to say against that policy. And what about all the German Americans, during WW2? Only the Asians, living in the USA, got locked up in internment camps. The feds trusted the others not to be Nazi agents.
All of this being done today, is political. It’s the right-wing “conservatives”, appealing to the major Non-Islamic religions. By showing that they’ll pick on the Islamic secs in America. So they’ll get the votes of the others. What’s next, witch hunts?
If you are a devote follower of mohammed you will devotedly fallow the koran..
The Qur’an commands Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims and apostates
(Surah 5:33; 9:5, 29).
mohammad was a terrorist.. the koran is warrior code..