Jambe says:

… which reminds me, Adam really needs to stop the Rand-admiration. That narcissistic, elitist, hateful claptrap is a real turn-off… especially when he mentions “finding Galt’s Gulch” and other such hooey. I don’t know why John humors him about that stuff.

But yes, the more righteous beliefs people lay claim to, the more likely it is that they’ll be exposed for ridiculous hypocrisies… and the Bible is full to the brim with batshit nonsense to “believe” in.

Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

Its not surprising a socialist can’t interpret Jesus correctly, but usually commie pinko freeloaders can count other people’s money.
She had six arguments, not five: 1)public prayer; 2)Selfishness; 3)Warmongering; 4)Judging; 5)Materialism; 6) Divorce.

1) Christ’s point was “don’t pray to be seen by others as righteous.”
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. (Mat 6:5-6 NIV)

Christ also prayed publicly:
24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee. 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. (Mat 11:24-25 KJV)

2)She misinterprets Jesus’, who doesn’t demand everyone give all they own to the poor literally:
8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.
(Luk 19:8-9 NIB)

UNLESS a person was being idolatrous with money:

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. (Mat 19:21-22 NIV)

Christ’s meaning is clear:

“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. (Mat 6:24 NIV)

So “sell all you own and follow me” is figurative of a life free of idolatry with money.

3) 27 “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who ill-treat you.
29 If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. (Luk 6:27-29 NIB)

This cannot apply to self defense because Christ never stopped His disciples from wearing swords:

51 With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. (Mat 26:51 NIB)

A sword is not a concealed weapon, its worn to ward off attack by robbers. No doubt most male disciples following Christ had swords to ward off robbers.

So there are limits to Christians turning the other cheek, I don’t suggest you test them.

4)Do not judge others unworthy of God’s love, not “do not judge anything.” She notices Christ didn’t follow her odd interpretation, and tried to call Him a hypocrite for not following her stupid interpretation. That doesn’t follow.

5)”It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mar 10:25 NKJ)
A “needle’s eye” was a “small gate” which camels couldn’t pass through unless all burdens were stripped off their backs, and they crawled through it. The figure is another way of says you can’t serve God and money.
The apostles did not interpret Christ as forbidding one be rich therefore He didn’t:
Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. (1Ti 6:17 NKJ)

6)Incorrect again, infidelity was a grounds for divorce:
32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery. (Mat 5:32 NIB)

cjohnson says:

This could have been a great Lutheran style “gospel and law” discussion (but then it would have never have been posted on this site). Instead, we get a works based critique of works based Chrisitianity. I don’t think Jesus would have approved of any of it. Oh well, maybe next time.

Gary, the dangerous infidel says:

It’s almost funny how people still seem to get caught up talking about the Jesus myth when the much earlier Judaic mythology upon which Christianity was built is so clearly flawed. Modern day Christians are distracted by how much fairer and more loving the god of the New Testament appears. However, if that god were truly the unchanging “Rock of Ages,” then he is no different from the god who inflicted unspeakable misery on various groups of Gentiles in the Old Testament, including their innocent children.

The Old Testament God didn’t yet have fully-formed “family values.”