Former Air Force Flight Surgeon, Ron Paul
First of all, the way the media — led by Fox News — treats Ron Paul as a viable candidate is appalling. I watch all this stuff and they actually refer to him as a lunatic or a loser or nuts or not serious as a candidate. The mainstream media wants Romney to be the candidate and they frame all the coverage around him. Fox News and the conservative talk show folks all want Michelle Bachmann or Rick Perry (who was a Democrat until recently) to be the candidate. They’ll even accept ex-Federal Reserve banker Herman Cain! This is largely because the Christian Evangelical base of the Conservatives hate Mormons. They also hate Ron Paul because he is not constantly promoting religion. I just wish they’d just say it and get it over with. Meanwhile, the public likes Ron Paul the more they listen to him. Apparently nobody in the big media game wants to deal with this reality. They do not want to hear it. But it keeps coming up. Now they are thinking it was mistake to include him in the debates. Thus he gets no attention by the dipshit moderators of these debates. Charlie Rose was the dipshit for this one.
On October 12th, the Republican presidential hopefuls met at Dartmouth University for a debate on economic issues which was sponsored by Bloomberg. Several questions that included the taxation, job creation, housing, and welfare benefits were asked of the candidates, and in a readers poll conducted after the debates were finished, Congressman Ron Paul was voted the candidate who understands the economy best by a landslide.
Below are the results of the poll:
Ron Paul – 2843 votes
Herman Cain – 342 votes
Mitt Romney – 151 votes
All other candidates received negligible votes.
During the debate, two very telling issues stood out amongst the candidates, and the moderators. First, Ron Paul was once again relegated as a back of the bus candidate as the Bloomberg moderator saw fit to only ask the Congressman two questions, while everyone else received substantially more opportunities to provide their plans and opinions. Secondly, candidate Herman Cain scored very well with his 9-9-9 taxation plan, as it was mentioned and addressed over and over by other candidates, and the moderators throughout the evening.
old ronny boy will get the recognition that he deserves only when he PAYS the media to give it too him..
have all of you lost your marbles, the campaign is all about money, not earned recognition.
Yes we all had our marbles stolen when the scotus changed the campaign contribution laws to allow corporations to contribute as much as necessarily to get their man elected.
The Constitution reads “We the People…
Not “We the corporations…
I have a question. I know there is tons of Ron Paul support, but how do you explain this :http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/07/10-quotes-that-make-ron-paul-sound-racist/
I am not a spy or a troll. I am just an African American women wondering how to feel about this.
This and the Occupy Wall Street coverage are a big “fuck you” to everyone who understands how the news works. They don’t even try to hide it. Blatant and unapologetic.
It’s actually hurtful to hear people I care about say things like, “I like Ron Paul but he’s just not viable” and “the protestors don’t even know why they’re there!”
Sigh.
> “I like Ron Paul but he’s just not viable”
When I hear that, I get in their face, friend or not, and say, “With that attitude, what do you expect?”
Up the Ronny! He has my primary vote. He is in my opinion, an honorable and principled person and the only Republican candidate that clearly possesses those attributes.
I’m with you about Ron, one of the defenders of our Constitutional Republic.
Hoping it’s not to late for me to register in the Republican Party. Casting my vote for Ron Paul in the primary also.
Oct. 14 is deadline for NY and NH I think to register. Not sure on all the deadlines but DailyPaul.com has a listing with all the states and primary dates.
Thank and I’ve got my form filled out and in the post.
If this was FB, I would click the LIKE button
Well John, you got your wish. 7 Paragraphs and a few column inches devoted to Ron Paul in the New York Times.
http://nytimes.com/2011/10/13/fashion/raising-eyebrows.html
I’ve got grandpa eyebrows. When it’s humid, they drop in my eyes and make my eyes water. I can’t seem to keep them trimmed. They grow faster than the hair on my head!
It was finally pointed out on the national Tv news (CBS?) what was wrong with Herman Cain’s “9-9-9″ tax plan. Right away, I thought raising the retail sales tax, was a way of screwing the low income (and No income) tax payer. While reducing the wealth’s usual 35% rate, down to only 9%. Everything else they probably get wholesale, anyway. What retail tax? Yeah, I’m sure the rich tax dodgers love Herman Cain, down in Floridah.
The reason the mainstream news ignores Ron Paul, is that these elections aren’t about getting someone smart into office. They’re about getting another compliant puppet, figurehead leader, into office. While the real control lies with the cabinet appointees and possibly the VP. We keep hearing from Dick Cheney, about what Obama’s doing that he doesn’t like. Because Cheney was likely the real decision maker, not George Bush.
Obama has been criticized as continuing the same policy of the previous administration (Cheney) regarding the detainees at the Cuban prison camp, and now allowing them a proper civilian legal trial. But sticking to the military legal system of endless bureaucratic stalling, that Cheney insisted on. Obama is just following orders. The Pentagon is really running things. Ron Paul would just complicate things by bucking their directives.
And they make sure there are enough ex-military nutjobs, with guns, to take care of such disobedient candidates. So Ron gets to live, as long as he’s ignorable.
Paul might know economy. But I doubt it as he wants to lower taxes which we have seen has done nothing for nearly 30 years except to advance his own people. The Rich.
Every republican is saying the same old Hoover way of fixing the economy and we have been doing that since Reagan and it has not worked.
The corporations still sit on a pile of loot and will not use it. The oil companies will still not build new refineries to meet the consumer demand. And between the Double Irish and Dutch Sandwiches the corporations use to cheat taxes they don’t even NEED a tax cut. Google paid ONLY 2% in 2010. That is even better that Cain’s idiotic 9-9-9 idea.
So to me Paul is yet another out of touch plutocrat.
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I understand how you feel. But I came to believe Paul because of his record. He has never once voted for an increase in taxes and he has been voted in 12 terms. He has never accepted Medicare/Medicaid in his practice so that he can charge less to give medical services. He absolutely refuses lobbyist money and has never taken part in the lucrative Congressional pension plan. He knows that the Federal Reserve bank’s printing of dollars hurts the poor and middle classes. Once Congress oks more spending, the Fed prints money or foreign banks loan (less are loaning us money). When the Fed prints more money, the dollar is devalued. Those in Washington benefit with the new dollars first because the prices don’t reflect inflation yet. As the dollars filter into the system, the prices go up (substantially up) and the poor/middle classes are the ones who suffer the most. Our salaries do not reflect changes to keep up with the inflation. Dr. Paul understands that and has been trying to get a Federal Reserve audit for 30 years. He says there is no authorization in the Constitution for a central bank. He was able to push through a partial audit and we just found out recently who benefited from the money lending by the Fed; foreign banks and big corporations! That’s why in the last debate, Dr. Paul brought out the fact that Herman Cain used to be a chairman for the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. Cain once said that it was not necessary to audit the Fed and Paul asked if he still felt the same way. The Federal Reserve Bank and Congress are the main culprits in everything going wrong in the economy right now. If we didn’t have a Federal Reserve bank, Congress could not vote for more spending nor the Fed could independently bail out others without our knowledge. We are the ones who are paying for it all in high prices and our savings are being wiped out. The big corporate banks would’ve failed in 2008 and no companies could’ve been nationalized by the govt. And to top it all, neverending wars could not be funded if we didn’t have a Federal Reserve Bank. So give Paul another look with these things in mind. I believe him to be honest and I really don’t like politicians.
“He has never once voted for an increase in taxes and he has been voted in 12 terms.”
And that is the issue.
A nation cannot balance a budget on slashing expenses alone. There must be revenue. And Paul has seen fit that corporations do not pay it. That capital gains tax remains low. That there is little or no inheritance tax.
He is PART of the problem, not the solution.
I agree that the Federal Reserve was a grave error. But being against that alone is insufficient to being a competent leader.
We do not need more of the same. Plutocrats that look out for the wealthy.
We need a new constitution and a new form og government not based on the tired and failed ideologies and methods of the previous centuries.
It is time to sweep away the old and foster the new.
None of these people Paul, Cain, Obama any of them have our best interests at heart. They only say they do to get your vote.
They have had years to show their loyalty to us. And they show loyalty only to themselves and their peers, The rich.
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you don’t think the government overspending is an issue?
Again it is not the SOLE issue.
Re-read:
“A nation cannot balance a budget on slashing expenses alone. There must be revenue.”
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Cursor — Agreed. But just because DC has a spending problem isn’t a good reason to increase revenue. Stop increasing the spending, drop it back down, and the budget will balance.
Ron Paul is a dogmatic libertarian who invariably advocates for “free market” solutions and “less government” except he’s all for controlling a woman’s right to abortion.
He’s against government provided/controlled health care: a leading cause of our non-competitive manufacturing system and social inequities.
He damns himself by his own words. He is a dogmatic idealist who has all the money he needs to protect himself against the social policies he would subject the 99% to. He is more the cause of all our problems we see today than any part of the solution we need to start a turn around.
Just read them for yourself:
http://www.ronpaul.com/
Paul isn’t all for controlling a woman’s right to abortion. First off, he’s a Constitutionalist. He believes government’s role is to protect liberty but that includes life. He a medical doctor; an ob/gyn. So his personal beliefs would be self-explanatory. He does not think the federal govt. should be the one to tell a person what they can or can’t do. If it’s not authorized in the Constitution but not prohibited, he believes those types of decisions should be left up to the states (which is Constitutional). There are at least 2 states that have put abortion to a vote and because of Roe v. Wade, those states are not allowed to be pro-life. If 90% of people in Idaho want the state to be pro-life, then so be it. We have a right to move. There are some who would say that takes away from Idaho’s 10% that want to do what they want with their bodies. But to protect liberty, we must protect all life. Dr. Paul says from a legal standpoint, as a doctor he is liable if a fetus dies while the mother is in his care before the baby is born. If a pregnant woman loses a pregnancy in a wreck by a drunk driver, the driver can be charged with manslaughter. That gives legal rights to the fetus. But yet if a woman wants to have an abortion at the 8th or 9th month just because they want to, the doctor who performs it gets paid and it’s absolutely legal. He is saying that the federal govt. shouldn’t be the one to set the standard one way or the other. He wouldn’t overturn Roe v. Wade because he didn’t believe the govt. had a right to make it the law of land in the first place. But he also does not believe the federal govt. should be the one to reverse it because it gives the govt. even more power. It doesn’t have the right to do anything that is not authorized in the Constitution. To leave the toughest decisions to the states, it gives more power to the people. His views are not to be anti-abortion even though he is personally but rather to make sure the people have the power; not the federal govt. More govt. always leads to more tyranny…………………..As far as the social polices you are talking about (99%), if this is about the banks, he has been fighting for an audit of the Federal Reserve Bank for 30 years. He understands that without the Federal Reserve, the govt. could not have bailed out corporate banks and wars could not be funded. There is no Constitutional authority for a central bank. Our earliest Americans understood the dangers of money printing. The Fed prints dollars and devalues the money. Once those dollars go out, it’s those in Washington who benefit. By the time the dollars move to the rest of the country, the prices go up to reflect the inflation. Who suffers? Middle and poor classes because our salaries don’t keep up with the inflation. Dr. Paul knows that and was able to get a partial audit of the Fed. We learned that the Fed bailed out foreign banks and corporations. But Congress and executive branches are also responsible. The Fed was created in 1913 and the dollar has been devalued since then but most since Bush jr. and Obama have been in office. It has been going on for decades. The problem is the dollar is near collapse now and regardless of what Paul stands on abortion issues, we need someone in the presidency next time who understands the Federal Reserve Bank, economic issues (not Keynesian but Austrian), and why we are about to collapse. The bailouts are crony capitalism, not real capitalism. Real capitalism would allow the country to flourish. Our system is so corrupt that we have to get someone honest ath the helm or we’re in big big trouble.
Bingo.
“If 90% of people in Idaho want the state to be pro-life, then so be it. ”
When 90% of the people in Alabama back in the 50s said that citizens of the Republic with black skin should drink from different fountains than those of white skin was that correct?
Should those free citizens of black skin should have just moved from Alabama?
Your argument is in error.
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majority rules but the rights of the minority can not be infringed upon.
your argument is in error.
Bingo.
The majority has no right that an ordinary citizen does not have.
Then the 90% of Idaho cannot make abortion illegal.
The corner is now painted.
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Cursor — And that is the tricky conundrum — if a fetus is a human being with all the right afforded a human being, then abortion is murder.
Do you consider a fetus to have the rights of a human being?
piff–your understanding of life, liberty, politics, the constitution, government, people, reality, common sense is dogmatic: overly simplified to the point of idiocy which indeed is what being a staunch “anything” is all about including libertarianism.
THE CONSTITUTION does not mean whatever the talking point of the day says it means. THE CONSTITUTION means what the Supreme Court says it means. As stated above: constitutional rights, such as the right to abortion, cannot be taken away by the states.
You have no credence at all when you say right off the bat: “Paul isn’t all for controlling a woman’s right to abortion. First off, he’s a Constitutionalist. /// He’s against abortions. Find and dandy UNTIL he wants to make it illegal for other people to get them. He is also against the states allow for abortions. The make it a state issue is just a dodge so that the knuckle draggers don’t have to understand constitutional rights.
He is NOT a constitutionalists. Its moronic the way dogmatic believers push their own preferences into the political marketplace by misreading/over applying some section of the Constitution WHILE ignoring 250 years of court decisions.
I will dittohead Wally’s excellent and detailed critique of the issue. Your position is moronic.
why you rightwingnuts can’t see what is right in front of you should be telling. Our society is falling apart as the direct result of free market anti regulation governmental policies. Your solution is to keep the fires of destruction stoked.
Stoopid Hoomans.
moron
That is not true. In the most recent debates, as in his books, speeches, interviews etc, Ron Paul has said that he does not believe the government has any right to tell people what to do concerning abortion, marriage, even drugs. He has written many things and spoke on this like a broken record. You should be more informed before speaking out, especially considering he has talked about this so much over the past few years. He has a more consistent voting record than all of the other candidates. In a speech in 2007, Obama said, “If the troops are not home by the time I am elected… It is the first thing I will do, and you can take that to the bank!” Ron Paul has nothing remotely similar to this, no empty promises, no flipflopping. That is why he received more money from the TROOPS THEMSELVES than all the other candidates, INCLUDING Obama. His positions have been the same for years and he has predicted our conflicts with other nations, the spending bubble, the housing bubble, the deflation of money, the problems with the fed, the debt, blowback for invading nations…. Ron Paul isn’t the bad guy. He has been trying to help for so long its literally ridiculous. If he can’t be trusted I’m not sure who can considering our nation elected someone with barely any voting record at all, who voted “Present” the majority of the time. The media wanted a political stranger elected and thats been going great! Troops just sent to Africa this week while the Afghanistan war enters its tenth year. Ignore the mainstream media. Find your own answers.
that was in reply to bobbo’s statement, not pff136′s
This guy doesn’t believe in evolution. For me, that makes everything else he says suspect, so I’m not interested in listening to anything he says.
Ah but the difference between him and the rest of the GOP field is that he won’t force that belief down people’s throats in public school
No he will let the states do that and take the heat.
Quicksilver Paul. Or maybe Teflon Ron?
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Teflon Ron! I like it!
And how does he poll when it comes to national defense? Does he still win by a landslide?
He actually wants to defend this country rather then go on the offensive in other countries. He’s also the number one supported candidate by military personal, he gets more donations from the military then anyone else.
Why are we defending South Korea, Germany, Britian.
Talk about over-spending…..
Because it makes some corporation money.
We can also ask why we still defend the Panama Canal. Or why we are still in the Pacific since the 1890s.
Paul will do no more than all other presidents. He is lying and again like Obamas’ lies naive people believe.
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I think you are wrong there. People knew Obama was lying but instead of voting their conscience, they voted against Bush. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Ron Paul is not lying.
Add a single constitutional amendment and solve the entire problem. Any individual who actually really wants to be elected to any political position is automatically disqualified from obtaining that position.
JCD===PLEASE fix this blog. I see the blog comments went from 63 to 64 but I can’t find the newest most recent comment. The nesting only goes 4 deep. These are SEVERE deficiencies if you are doing anything other than expressly trying to restrict responses. Why not just prevent comments altogether? Even numbering the comments would still leave a difficult format–could be helped by a side bar of most recent comments with links thereto.
So–why aren’t you returning to the old format with color changes if that is what you think is modern?
Rick Perry was a Democrat until recently?
He was the Republican Governor since George Bush became President over ten years ago.
is believing in the idea we can vote our way out of this nightmare of a shitstorm a fantasy? as a formerly employed s/w engineer, i was taught that a systemic problem can only be corrected by, first, breaking the system…voting for r & d’s doesn’t seem to work..