So I guess this means all out war by the government, for corporations, against citizens.
On Tuesday, Attorney General Eric Holder urged Americans to fink on their neighbors and report intellectual-property offenses like popping or hawking unapproved pharmaceuticals and downloading music and movies illegally.
The announcement at the White House came as the Justice Department kicked off a public campaign against intellectual-property theft, which like all successful wars against societal scourges, will have public-service announcements on MTV.
“Fortunately, we can all be part of the solution. Anyone who suspects an IP crime can visit cybercrime.gov, fbi.gov, or iprcenter.gov to report suspected offenses,” Holder said. “The public’s proactive attention to these issues can help us to disrupt the sale of illegal goods; to prosecute the individuals, gangs, and international criminal organizations that profit from these activities; and to stop those who would exploit the ingenuity of others for monetary gain.”
So far there’s no word on what kind of reward you’ll get for reporting your teen sister for using an app to turn a Miley Cyrus YouTube video into an MP3, but surely you’ll get at least a Scouting badge for your loyalty to Big Content and the American Way.
Altogether now, “If you see something, say something!”
And this is not just in IP piracy domain. Recent examples of child abuses in sports organizations and aspects of it quickly led to some states contemplating and developing laws intent on punishing people for not reporting crime they have seen but not participated in… #1 prosecuted crime in the ye’ old East Germany…
Yes, again it is done under the guise of “protect the childrens” mime.
It’s always been a crime to fail to report a felony. It’s called misprision.
Very hard to prove, though.
If you know someone who isn’t paying their taxes, it is your duty to report them. It’s the law.
I’d like to report Eric Holder for felony firearms trafficking, viz. the unreported cash sale of several thousand firearms to Mexican drug cartels.
Oh.
Nevermind.
Like every opinion you have posted here Loser==you are on the way to the ballpark, but still no where close to it:
http://answers.com/topic/misprision
The crime cannot be committed without engaging in a conspiracy after the fact. Thats always been a crime. Adding the charge of misprision just shows the Liberty Lover mindset of not cleaning the garbage out of your antiquated thinking.
From your link:
The crime of misprision still exists in England, but it has never been fully embraced in the United States. The first Congress passed a misprision of felony statute in 1789. The statute holds, “Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony … conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States” is guilty of misprision of felony and can be punished with up to three years in prison.
Under the federal statute, the prosecution must prove the following elements to obtain a misprision of felony conviction: (1) another person actually committed a felony; (2) the defendant knew that the felony was committed; (3) the defendant did not notify any law enforcement or judicial officer; and (4) the defendant took affirmative steps to conceal the felony. Precisely what constitutes active concealment is a question of fact that depends on the circumstances of the case. Lying to a police officer satisfies the requirement, but beyond that generally accepted rule, little is certain about the definition of active concealment.
see also:
Roberts v. United States, 445 U.S. 552, 100 S. Ct. 1358, 63 L. Ed. 2d 622 (1980)
LL was right on both counts. It is a crime but difficult to prosecute.
If you are going to post something to back up a claim it would be nice if you actually read it first.
AC
I’m willing to bet that 99% of all reports will be not out of concern about piracy, but rather just to get back at someone you don’t like or that did something nasty to you.
While most of us are sympathetic to the actual creators of intellectual property, hardly anyone gives a rats rectum about the corporate entities that do the marketing and wind up with most of the money. So, good luck !
Its too bad the website couldn’t be flooded with tips about mortgage fraud, stock manipulations, kick backs, pork and such. And there should be.
Still no prosecutions, and the unregulated risk taking continues apace.
We’ve learned nothing. NOTHING!!!! One more can of whoop ass please.
Holder… such a turd. All hail the failed BO administration.
Short list of starring players:
The sleeveless first lady
Van Jones
Lucifer Clinton
Joe Biden
Eric Holder
Neopolitano
Sotomayor and that other ugly bitch he appointed…
That inept moron in charge of technology
God. The whole bunch of them just make me puke.
I like Van Jones. What’s your Beef?
Re Sotomayor and that other ugly bitch, haven’t heard much about them. Seem to be holding up their end of the 5-4 Split Court. What more could they do?
You’re just addicted to black c__k. SFU.
Just Kidding! I Keeed! I’m a Keeeeder! Ha Ha!
Of course you have a right to your opinion and it’s even lucid sometimes!
And I’m in no way trying to imply that black c__k is in any way inferior to any other.
I’m reliably informed.
Nor do I mean to disparage those who like it a lot.
To quote the bi-curious Adam Curry: “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
So Peace and Love to you all!
(Uncle Dave, you can delete that now.)
No beef, just pork then?
Ha, ha.
WHO HERE UNDERSTANDS DIVIDE AND conquer?
Its been happening for along time in this country.
HOW to keep the people from grouping up and finding solutions….
All it takes is a bit in Instigating, something strange to happen, then BLAME another group.
Then allow laws to be created, that YOU THINK will hurt the other person MORE then yourself..and those controlling the situation, gain more power.
YOU CANT blame others for OUR own failings..its just easier.
much of this started after WWI, and got even worse after WWII. they learned lots from the wars..and the Gov/corps have used it many times and in many forms over the years.
DONT BLAME US, Look at yourselves, and find the one YOU WANT responsible..
YOU want a balanced vote?? KILL the reps/demos..STOP listening to them.(SHEEP)(they do the same thing, blame OTHERS)…
WHO here, with a bit of tech knowledge and a small amount of programming, COULD NOT, make a 99% unhackable voting machine?
Turn off the ports in the BIOS..
TAKE out the drivers for the ports in LINUX(windows SUCKS) or 32bit dos..
Write it in HTML or any of the scripts..and it works..
Make it so IF the HD is removed, it scrambles/corrupts the drive..
Why are there so many fails to create this?
Progressives…Holder more worried about the rights of terroists than Americans…
Will Blacks be advised to snitch?
Don’t you remember Obama campaigning on these fundamental changes to America?
You should be worried about the rights of terrorists in case they decide an easy way to silence you is to declare you one.
Homeland security Incompitano is already watching us Republicans, and returning Vets…remember?
I want to know if Holder’s directive applies to blacks…if they can be charged with property theft of is that something only whites can be guilty of?
Anyone know?
What are you talking about? Why shouldn’t it apply to everyone (wealthy bankers, etc excluded, of course)? You’re not making sense.
Actually he is but I believe he is in error about what this Administration is prejudiced about.
Based on how this administration normally treats blacks he’s prejudiced against those that can’t afford to cover the tab except when in active campaign mod and even then I’m not sure he’s polite to the little people for any longer than he thinks he has to be be. He is a fairly good actor.
Black, white, Asian, or native American, small business people, or even moderately large companies this administration and virtually all of Congress is prejudiced against anyone that isn’t the highest bidder or lacks an organized power block powerful enough to fight back.
Holder refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation because they are black. J. Christian Adams blew the whistle on this, and now has a book on the subject “Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department.”
I’m not surprised the racism evident in the Obama administration is unknown to you…you gotta watch FOX to be informed…
The Limbaugh Letter has an excellent interview with Adams where he details this unequal application of the law based on race. To quote Rush’s start:
“RUSH: …Eric Holder has been carrying around a Harlem preacher’s quotation about ‘blackness’ in his wallet since 1971. In 1996 Holder explained what the quote means to him: “I am not the tall U.S. attorney, I am not the thin U.S. attorney, I am not the thin United States attorney. I am the black U.S. attorney. There’s a common cause that bonds the black U.S. attorney with the black criminal, or the black doctor with the black homeless person.”-The Limbaugh Letter, Nov 2011.
Hence someone needs to ask Holder if he expects blacks obey the snitch rule as he is telling whites to. I suspect not, if the theft is a black criminal the black U.S. attorney has a common cause with him and won’t apply the law to him as he would to a white person, just as he has consistently acted since becoming the U.S. attorney.
Obama is still free, isn’t he?
When I turned bobbo in for intellectual theft they hung up laughing….what gives?
Probably because after reading some of your past comments here they’ve put you on the Ignore List.
You typed the words I held back on, not wanting to rile up you know who.
They know Mrs. Kravits when they see her.
I’m so glad “they” have their priorities in order.
Yeah, from the mouth of the mastermind responsible for giving the Mexican drug cartels enough weapons to start a border war.
How did we end up with these idiots? Oh yeah, Obama again.
#17
ABO – Since the beginning of the great Society we’ve been breeding for idiocy. This is the result. Kornbluth had it right and the morons have marched to the voting booth and created the modern Democratic party.
Sit back, have a beer and watch it all go down in falmes and appreciate it for the entertainment value. Not much else left to do.
As long as homosexual acts aren’t yet considered intellectual property crimes, I’m not too concerned. The 1% needs to defend against the 99% from ripping off their Lady Gaga tune.
Your gonna be ratted on if Newt has his family values bullcrap made into legislation as POTUS. If, he wins the Presidential election. And FSM forbid.
I’ve already ratted him out…and there is a line
Conga line?
Be assured there is no possibility of homosexual acts being associated with intellect in any way.
If you see something amiss with a government officer or official
Say something
TO WIKILEAKS
I’d like to report record companies for creating shit CD’s with 2 crappy singles and charging $22. They screwed themselves out of the industry, quit crying and create a new revenue stream. Idiots.
It’s ok for Holder to give automatic weapons to drug cartels? As McCullough pointed out. But don’t download some soothing music, or your neighbor may turn you in.
Divide and conquer indeed, ECA.
F’in BOGATIVE.
Let’s see if the RIAA and the MPAA sets up files as traps as they did with “The Hurt Locker”. Also don’t expect the local Police to be hauling you off, it’ll be the Marine’s knocking down your door because your are supporting terrorists. Shameful behavior by Barrys minions pitting citizen against citizen.
Meh. Same old crap. * goes back to sortin and countin the ammo*
cool now it is time to turn the tables…
report your local authorities and elected officials!
this will keep the courts busy for years… hell centuries
As bad as Obama is, you’ve never heard me say that McCain would have been better.
Not only is he a rabid war monger, he is now the proud sponsor of the Outrage of the Century. (So far)
http://dailykos.com/story/2011/11/30/1041123/-McCain-Levin-Military-Detentions-Law-for-Americans-Clears-Path-for-Domestic-Assassinations
As disgusting as the Beltway Bandits have been on IP – including the Monsanto outrages – this is far more serious.
And it may not be the worse thing in the Defense Authorization.
Agreed McCain would have bombed Iran by now, and is a serious hawk. Let’s hope Obama vetoes this serious affront to the Constitution know as S. 1867. This is serious shit.
So we’ve officially moved into the realm of law enforcement not giving a sh*t about far more serious and violent crimes (as much), like drug running, as they do about the property and commodities of the very rich and various corporate empires. Not much of a surprise. In previous eras, law enforcement demonstrated more concern with the growth of organized labor, against the work place abuses of major industries, than with organized crime. Well it’s easier to club labor organizers than mobsters with Tommy guns. The hunt for “commies” in Hollywood, was more about stopping actors and film crews from getting the kinds of perks that movie directors enjoyed thru their own “guild” (another name for a union). No real “Reds” were ever found contaminating Hollywood. But scores of livelihoods and careers in the entertainment industry were ruined. But at least the wealth of major studios was preserved, in the short term. Of course, if the Black List hadn’t happened. Certain studios might not of gone into bankruptcy, due to keeping more hack writers employed, than good ones who had a social conscience. And BTW, former US President Ronald Reagan was one of those who saved his own ass, by ratting out other actors. And you think Herman Cain is despicable.
During the post-depression era, the FBI got its start by going all out to defend the sloppy security measures of the Brink Company, and turned half of New York upside-down searching for the stolen loot. Regardless of violating everyone’s rights against illegal searches, as it was done without warrants of cars, trucks, and probably homes of ex-felons. Spending far more in man hours, than what was actually stolen. And the same could probably be said of Feds’ current concern of music and films. The lost is only a small dip in sales of legitimate product. Which is very subjectively projected, by the rights holders. But can’t be proven NOT to be also a be effected by economic decline.
For example, I steal no music. But I also buy no music. So is it defacto that I MUST be stealing music, since I buy none? The RIAA apparently thinks so. Thus they have the feds defending their financial miscalculations, in backing Gangsta Rap and Lady Gaga, over more acceptable music. It would cost the taxpayer more in man hours, and court fees, to try and prove that whatever I have digital copies of might be illegal, than what actually cost any label in sales they didn’t make. As I’m certain it is with 99% of old music collectors. So this is a completely ridiculous waste of taxpayer funds, in the pursuit of protecting tiny sales margins of the music monopolies. But what else is new?
Your argument is unsound, Holder doesn’t concern himself with “black crime” and if white collar offenders contribute to Obama’s campaign, they also are ignored.
That renders your comparison to past law enforcement and their priorities invalid, the middle term is undistributed.
I’m gonna turn you in.
The seventh sign of the apocolips has arrived. Look up
Doggie Do game…. ARGGGGGGGGHHH!
The latest outrage I’ve heard is of doctors over-proscribing mind altering medications to orphan children, paid for by the taxpayers. If anything, a few doctors will get their hands slapped. But you can bet the big pharms, who put them up to this practice, will not suffer at all. Just as the Quaker Oats company didn’t suffer (much) for feeding radioactive tagged meals to retarded children, at the funding of the US government. Basically using these kids as guinea pigs for Cold War research.
http://naturalnews.com/026197.html
The anti-depression meds, now being dumped on orphans as young as infants, is indefensible. But I’m sure irresistible to the pharm industry. When I was in military service, some decades ago, they were dumping the disfavored anti-depressant Valium, on anyone complaining of a cough, cold, or brief stomach upset. Handing it out like aspirin. No doctors involved. Just out the window it went, for anyone, for anything. Taxpayer paid. Making sure the drug company who makes it didn’t suffer any loss in sales, from the bad press it was getting. I threw it away. Want less depressed soldiers? PAY THEM BETTER.