Well, Hell. Is This Really A Surprise?

By Sunday December 4, 2011



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  1. Egon Ruuda says:
    12/4/2011 at 4:16 pm

    Hell exists! I have been there, it is also called New Jersey.

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  2. deowll says:
    12/4/2011 at 4:24 pm

    He isn’t a Priest in my church. In fact I wouldn’t call him a Xian. Just another progressive wasting space and trying to corrupt the faith.

    For those that don’t know that is the original way of writing Christian in Ancient Latin. X=Chris Thus the original way of writing Christmas was Xmas. How the _t_ got in there in English I don’t know.

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    • Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection says:
      12/4/2011 at 6:09 pm

      The Easter Bunny is real too, huh?

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    • Mustardtits says:
      12/4/2011 at 7:10 pm

      Ya we better shut this guy up. He is a threat to our multi-billion $ operation.

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    • Fo'real says:
      12/6/2011 at 5:37 am

      Yeah, watch out for those Faith Corrupters… Like priests who diddle young boys, and all those good Caucasian faithful who’ve had no problem forcing the faith on brown people throughout history. It’s like that saying out of Africa about Colonization: “When they arrived, they had the Bible and we had the land. They asked us to close our eyes to pray, and when we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land”. I’m paraphrasing, but you get the point. Onward Christian Soldiers! (Which War Would Jesus Fight?)

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  3. Sister Mary Hand Grenade of Quiet Reflection says:
    12/4/2011 at 6:08 pm

    I have to chime in here, this fucker is trying to ruin my business.

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  4. t0llyb0ng says:
    12/4/2011 at 7:22 pm

    “Corrupt the faith.” That was a good one. Thanks for the laughs.

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  5. UncDon says:
    12/4/2011 at 7:45 pm

    I thought Hades was a trash dump outside of Jerusalem that was often on fire. Or used for BBQue’ing heretics.

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  6. Animby says:
    12/4/2011 at 8:27 pm

    GregAllen “the just nature of God”

    Thank you GA for my first morning laugh. I snorted coffee through my nose.

    If scripture shows anything. it is that god is a capricious and petulant child playing dice with human lives. God, be it he, she, it or them, is never just in the sense of fair. Just? Hell, god isn’t even consistent.

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  7. WhooseGospel says:
    12/4/2011 at 8:57 pm

    Spong can manipulate words to mean different things and has been able to hypnotize people to believe that which is false. He doesn’t know Church history and yet proclaims that he is some Church historian. He’s just some guy with a collar that makes people feel okay with the idea that God may be nice and happy and all knowing and not mean. That’s what people want to hear, and that’s how he continues his fame.

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    • Milo says:
      12/6/2011 at 4:18 pm

      He has never claimed to be a Church historian.

      He is a Bishop of the Episcopal Church of the US and has 3 graduate degrees, which I should think is more education in theology than you’ve had!

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  8. jimmyr says:
    12/4/2011 at 11:48 pm

    This page argues (quite well, in fact) that if there were a merciful god, he’d let everyone into heaven because it’s too late for them to turn over a new leaf on earth anyway. Hell is something to keep the Puritan types happy. BTW, the definition of a Puritan is someone who is desperately afraid that someone, somewhere, is having fun.

    http://apatheismpodcast.com/2010/04/03/just-let-everyone-into-heaven-who-is-going-to-know/

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  9. Cursor_ says:
    12/5/2011 at 4:07 am

    He is making The Church take credit for something that had been in other religions for years.

    The Jews did not even have a hell until The Greeks introduced the concept. They only had Sheol, the grave. You lived and then died and that was pretty much it, unless you were lucky enough to be a prophet that was allowed to ascend to Heaven.

    In Christian theology there is a hell of terrible everlasting sorrow. Wailing, gnashing or teeth, etc. BUT that hell and death is made no more in Revelation. So both concepts cease to exist at that point. So there is no eternal suffering. Another mix up with The Divine Comedy.

    So hell when it comes to Judaism, Christianity and Islam is a borrow bit of garbage which shows you just how smorgasbord the religion is.

    The decent aspect of Christianity, love you neighbour as yourself, is totally lost because of the indecency of man and The Church.

    Cursor_

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    • Harry says:
      12/5/2011 at 6:26 am

      I would like to quote Saint Rodney

      ” love thy neighbor as you love your self, what am I suppose to jerk him off too”.

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  10. Harry says:
    12/5/2011 at 6:22 am

    Just another form of control.

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  11. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:
    12/5/2011 at 8:31 am

    As is true for most creepy progressives, I wouldn’t want that dude behind me in a dark elevator.

    What a shock most of you don’t believe in hell but do believe Obama leads from behind…

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  12. #47- bobbo, OCCUPY DVORAK: what if "we-all" number our own posts and post seriatim ourselves? says:
    12/5/2011 at 12:44 pm

    Speaking of things Religious–you rarely see them being as stupid as this rant against Obama not thanking God on his Youtube address. Yea–you put religious, Fox News, and anything God together and you got a real idiot fest:

    One of the best 5 minutes ever crafted:

    http://thewrap.com/tv/article/jon-stewart-rips-fox-news-over-obama-god-less-thanksgiving-claim-video-33133

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    • jpfitz says:
      12/5/2011 at 6:41 pm

      Spoiling a nationalist holiday by adding (Jesus) religion, something only Fox can do. Wait, a guest at our Thanksgiving table had us all hold hands and bla bla bla, Jesus. Crap, a Fox watcher had to F it up for me.

      Great video. Think of the progressive Jews, funny.

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      • #64- bobbo, OCCUPY DVORAK: what if "we-all" number our own posts and post seriatim ourselves? says:
        12/6/2011 at 5:51 am

        That praying together before meals always tears me up. In my own house, I never do that. “You are welcome to pray by yourself as you wish, but we don’t do that here.” At other peoples houses, if anyone is from work–I hold hands but will not give the benediction. If no one from work–then it depends: if I JUST met them, I usually go along. More than a few weeks, No.

        A lot, but not all tension is relaxed by my saying “Hey, I’m a socialist humanist. We aren’t allowed to pray.” Fug em.

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        • jpfitz says:
          12/6/2011 at 12:02 pm

          Bobbo, Our celebration was not at my table. Sometimes it’s easier to just zone out and revive after the amen. This was a sneak attack by a relatives “new” boyfriend who had her convert to Catholicism.

          I have a feeling at Xmas dinner we’ll all be holding hands again and I’ll be grumbling under my breadth this time.

          Trying hard not to make waves or there will be another crusade.

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  13. Bob73 says:
    12/5/2011 at 1:42 pm

    I’m sure there is a special place in hell for guys like this that TEACH such bullshit. Seems like I remember a verse or two in the Bible where Jesus himself said something to that effect.

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  14. GF says:
    12/5/2011 at 1:53 pm

    Another wolf in sheep’s clothing. That pretty much describes the world right now, nothing but a facade. Politicians, doctors, bankers, etc.

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    • tcc3 says:
      12/5/2011 at 2:34 pm

      Priests…

      And if you think this is a new state of affairs, I’ve got some prime, grade A, bottled nostalgia to sell you.

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  15. Pays2Think says:
    12/5/2011 at 4:47 pm

    Why do so many deny what is known, yet believe in what is not?

    As usual… follow the money!

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  16. jescott418 says:
    12/5/2011 at 6:53 pm

    I do think religion was created for us to understand a higher being.
    Considering how simple people were in the period of Jesus Christ.
    How else can people in that time learn to accept what God and Jesus was. I think religion continues because what else would help humans feel a connection to this world and the afterlife. So many different religions but similar beliefs. How is this possible? Because they are all built off the same mold. Only that different cultures have changed the meanings.

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  17. Gary, the dangerous infidel says:
    12/5/2011 at 7:41 pm

    from the clip…
    “Religion is always in the control business.”

    He certainly knows how to hit the nail on the head.

    Moses discovered that if you can convince people that you are the sole oracle able to communicate with the Creator of the Universe, you can literally get away with murder. It was a control issue.

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  18. Satan says:
    12/5/2011 at 7:49 pm

    You kids get off my lawn!

    Taxed Enough go clean up all that crap they left here in hell so we can get back to that eternity suffering and punishment you have earned

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  19. ABO says:
    12/5/2011 at 8:37 pm

    Hell is not mentioned in the Bible. Dante’s Inferno was written, and the churches thought it would help their bottom line.
    Hence, Hell. Before Dante, there were other fictions floated, but it Hell really took shape in the Middle Ages, in Europe.

    A first rate scare tactic to insure the solvency of the Catholic Church.

    Satan? How could an “angel” go bad? That’s like saying a Twinkie would go stale.

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    • Yankinwaoz says:
      12/5/2011 at 10:44 pm

      “Hell is not mentioned in the Bible”

      Really. I just Googled that question and many sites came up with lines from the a bible, or some version of a bible, that mention it.

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      • Fo'real says:
        12/6/2011 at 9:06 am

        Yeah, but were the lines from Bibles written BEFORE the Middle Ages, or after?
        Yahweh/The Great Buffalo Spirit/Providence/Whatever-You-Call-”God” does not come down from above to ensure that Bibles are printed correctly. I posit that the Bible has long been a tool for the Power Elite to insert bits of their own agenda as it suits them.

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        • Bob73 says:
          12/6/2011 at 9:53 am

          God doesn’t need to “come down from above”. I realize it must be difficult to conceptualize what God is capable of, especially if you simply refuse to think about it deeply.

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          • Gary, the dangerous infidel says:
            12/6/2011 at 10:28 am

            Thinking deeply is the tool of Satan! Listen to your pastor instead. If you find yourself drifting into deep thought or analysis, simply pray for deliverance and ask the elders of the church to pray with you.

          • Fo'real says:
            12/6/2011 at 11:31 am

            He doesn’t come down from above, but he does ensure that the Bible is worded EXACTLY like he wants it, every time it’s copied/published?

            Thinking deeply is what makes me laugh at the idea of following the legends started by people thousands of years ago. If we want to be a Christian Nation, I’m down with that as long as we have to follow ALL the Commandments, which would mean no more commerce on Sundays (Observe the Sabbath and Keep It Holy)… No more Sunday NFL games, since that means work, which is forbidden on the Sabbath.
            When people of faith stop picking and choosing which book to follow (Old or New Testament) and display some consistency, i.e. You Shall Not Eat Scavengers Of The Deep, along with Man Shall Not Lie With Another Man As He Lies With A Woman, then I think I can get on-board.

  20. Glenn E. says:
    12/6/2011 at 12:41 am

    Perhaps if there were a fiery hell for drug abusers and sex offenders, there’d be a lot less abusing and offending. But instead it’s just a legal issue. And maybe a little jail time, at worst. And these offenders never get the message that its time to “grow up” and stop doing that. If anything, they think that’s what being a grown up is all about. So whether Hell is an invention or not, isn’t really the point. It’s what is there to motivate humans to reform their lives, if some ultimate punishment isn’t in store for them? It’s more difficult to relay the positive benefit of “growing up”, over “doing whatever you want to”, to one’s mental health. Especially when there are those in the entertainment media that profit from promoting the latter behavior. Hollywood has spun its own version of an anti-Hell for the hedonists and amoralists. And it makes all the wife swapping and divorces go down easier with the general public. Not to mention a wacko cult or two, being more prominent in that town, that revels in trashing mainstream religions.

    That this Tv interview chooses this season, along with the latest Ron Howard “Code” movie, to take Christianity down a notch. Doesn’t really surprise me. Tis the season for the bastardizers of what the season really stands for, to corrupt it for their own gain. The news and entertainment industry is ruled and influenced by some of the most amoral men on the planet. Naturally the idea of “hell” tends to get in their way. But they don’t shirk from exploiting it in fiction, when the promise of profits warrants it.

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