1. fishguy says:

    Obvious “lone wolves”. What?! No child porn??

    Once they take these guys out, you and I are next. Get ready.

  2. t0llyb0ng says:

    Somebody can live off the grid & grow their own food for 20 years?  Wow!  I admire that.  & this is their reward.  BFD goon squads show up & push them around.

    Can I ask some naive questions?  Isn’t LA County too big?  Should it not encompass generally the city & surrounding environs, within reason?  Why do they have authority over remote areas with no connection to LA proper?

    Here is a transcription of a portion of the narrative.  Sounds like a spokesman for the powers that be speaking:

    “Anything not covered in the Area Plan is covered by the county-wide General Plan.  If the General Plan is like a house with all the basic rooms, an Area Plan is like an addition to a house.”

    Does that make any sense?

    They can call their “plans” anything they want, but it’s all lawyered-up bullshit & they’ll keep throwing their weight around as long as they can get away with it.

  3. Animby says:

    Don’t we have the right to know who our accusers are? If a “neighbor” has filed a complaint then the name of that neighbor should be public and how the nuisance they object to has affected them. Seems like a good case for the ACLU.

    • LibertyLover says:

      Open Records laws do permit that. In Texas (and I suspect all other states) all they have to do is go down to the clerk with a written statement saying what they want. It can be written on a napkin and be legal and doesn’t even have to specify “exactly” what they want. They can write, “I want all records pertaining to land deals for Antelope Valley.” You ask for that and certain people may get a little nervous.

      They have 10 days to respond and if not, the state AG get’s involved. If the county wishes it kept secret, they have to submit to the AG why they don’t have to disclose that information and he has 30 days to respond. The only reason it should be rejected is if the county is in negotiations with somebody about it and would ruin their stance.

      It won’t get them off the hook for the violations but it might stop the harassment if somebody is in danger of being publicly embarrassed.

      This same exact thing happened here in my town. They tried to run a guy off his land because a neighboring development wanted the land for a library (promised by the real estate agents selling them the houses, if you can believe). The town started harassing him over code violations, they went to court, and he won.

      “If you don’t know the rights, you don’t have any.”

      Perfect.

      They guys need a lawyer with some balls.

  4. CrankyGeeksFan says:

    Narrator: “… unsightly structures on his property.”

    There are high voltage transmission towers visible from Mr. Gallo’s property at 2:11. Why doesn’t the county do something about that?

    “If you don’t know the rights, you don’t have any.”
    - Great quote at 3:56

  5. memesis says:

    How disgusting is this? I remember when I first moved out west from the south east I never even heard of a HOA. I thought people living in one were idiots plus they payed for that right. Now it looks like I may be forced to live in one by my government were ever I may be. I am so sick of this country of mine. Tell me what to do with my property. F**k You!

  6. orchidcup says:

    When I lived outside the jurisdiction of the city, in an unincorporated rural area of the county, I never had to deal with any code enforcement people or even law enforcement people.

    I built my house to code. I had a clean and orderly piece of property. I never had to lock my doors. The ranchers out there would keep an eye on my property and I would keep an eye on their property. I saw the county sheriff drive by one time in eight years.

    Those were the good old days.

    Now the ranchers have retired and sold off their land to developers. There are subdivisions surrounding my former property. The city folks moved in and brought their codes and ordinances and property owner’s association rules and regulations.

    You can’t do this. You can’t do that. You must do this. You must do that. Your shrubs can’t be more than three feet high. Your trash can must be no more than three feet from the curb. Your fence must be a chain-link type no more than four feet high. Your house must be a certain color. You can’t drill a well. You can’t shoot fireworks on the Fourth of July. You must have security lights that blind all your neighbors. You can’t park your truck in your yard. You can’t carry guns in your gun rack. You can’t leave your keys in your vehicle.

    City folks are insane.

  7. TThor says:

    Big Brother Nazis on their way. You don’t conform willingly, we’ll make sure to conform you. Our way. And laws for protecting individual rights and property rights? Eminent domain, heard about that? You’re done. Get out of the way. The public good and the Ministry of Truth will provide you all safety.

  8. orchidcup says:

    I moved to a tiny little town by a lake when I sold my property in the country.

    I built a small and energy-efficient home with plans to add solar heat and electricity later.

    I decided to make a large garden on my tiny little half-acre parcel.

    I was a good little sheep and checked the ordinances to see if I could get permission to build a game fence to keep the deer out of my garden. The answer is no fence more than four feet high.

    So I will tilt my four-foot fence outward at a 30-degree angle. The deer will not try to jump over a tilted fence.

    Problem solved. The ordinance does not say I cannot tilt my fences. Before long, the ordinance will be modified to prohibit tilted fences because I outsmarted the city.

    Then I will get a grandfathered exception to the modified ordinance.

    This is what I have to do so I can have a garden.

    Total horseshit.

  9. moebeans says:

    What about status of limitations? Where I live if you put up an illegal structure and they don’t come after you for 10 years it is grandfathered. It has to conform to land use regulations (you can’t build a factory in a subdivision) but the structure itself is now considered legal.

  10. John E. Quantum says:

    “Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown”

    I was issued a parking ticket for parking off of my driveway at 2:15 AM by the local county revenue authority- it was left on my windshield sealed in a plastic bag during a night of monsoon like rain. I took it to court to find out why the county would be out at that hour issuing parking tickets. Lucky for me the judge agreed that it was nonsense and dismissed the $100.00 fine although I was forced to miss a couple of hours of work. Sometimes it does make a difference to stand up for your rights, but if the gov’t has you in their sights it might already be a lost cause.

  11. chris says:

    Has anyone played L.A. Noire?

  12. Yankinwaoz says:

    The Antelope Valley, and its sister the Lucerne Valley to the east, are a mess. It used to be a nice places to live. Not any more.

    Both are high desert, 1-2 hours drive out of the LA metroplex. The only jobs up there were government (Andrews AFB, George AFB, prisons) or ag (lots of dairy and alfalfa). In the 1980′s during there was a huge building boom. Thousands and thousands of cookie cutter homes were built for the families of LA based aerospace workers. People were commuting 3 hours to their jobs in El Segundo and the SFV. Palmdale, Victorville, and Lancaster become booming bedroom communities, filled with middle class aerospace workers who wanted a home out of the jurisdiction of the screwed up LA Unified School District.

    Then after 1987 it all blew up. The aerospace jobs dried up. George AFB closed. The home values plummeted. By the later 1990′s it was becoming a ghost town. Hundreds and hundreds of abandoned or foreclosed suburban houses. People were upside down so they simply mailed the keys to the mortgage company and walked away.

    Then speculators came in and started paying cash for the homes. $30k for a 4 bedroom house. They were absentee landlords. They rented the homes to section 8 families. Yep, welfare queens. Government guaranteed rent.

    South Central LA used to be the heart of black SoCal. That is where the Bloods and Crips and West Coast Rap came from. No more. They all moved into these abandoned homes up the high desert. It made sense. If you live in welfare, and you don’t have a job to commute to, then why not move out of the urban ghetto and into your own home? It is still LA County, so you still get LA County welfare rates. A bedroom for each of your kids. Perhaps even a pool, if you know how to maintain it.

    Sure enough, all of the social problems that hey had in south central LA followed them up to the Antelope Valley. Their gang banger kids. The drugs. The violence. The crime. The houses started falling apart, and the property values keep falling. The schools became prisons for troubled kids. It became a vicious cycle.

    It is true. No one wants to live there any more. It has become a rural ghetto. Who wants to commute 5 hours a day to live in a shit hole?

    South Central LA is now very hispanic, filled with new immigrants from Mexico and Central America looking for a cheaper or safer place to live than east LA. When I drive though Watts, Carson, Compton now, all the signs are in Spanish.

    Now back to why the harassment. The short video mentioned a highway. True, the Pearblossom Highway that connects 14 to I-15 has always been a mess. It is far better than it used to be. You can cross the valley is less than 1 hour now. Back in the 80′s traffic used to back up 5 miles where Pearblossom and 395 met. I really don’t think that is the reason.

    It think it is simply a matter of money. LA County wants to wrest control of the Antelope Valley back from the slumlords in order to make it a desirable place to live again. That in turn will raise property values, which will mean more property taxes. It is going to take a long time to do this, 20 years or more. So how do they do that? They start cleaning it up. And this is how they do it.

  13. Post #41- bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    #40–Yank==excellent review. Shows how money drives so many “social” issues. I feel for the guy with the telephone pole house. That looked wonderful.

    I think land use regulations are necessary—BUT==its not hard to meld health and safety concerns with individual liberty. I wanted to enclose a huge outdoor sun room as part of my house “but” I would have had a seven foot high wall at the far end where the code requires 8 feet so no building permit. Lots if not most people would have no problem with that 7 foot ceiling a the far end. I think I should have been given my permit and my property report just show “Non Code Conditions” and let the market decide what such a condition was worth.

    But all too often the heavy hand of prohibition is used rather than “notice and choice.”

    Same as it always is.

  14. Zybch says:

    At 5:48 that must be the most unconvincing toupee I’ve ever seen.

    BTW, those homes ARE unsightly, but for the NATs to stick their noses in is totally unconscionable.

  15. Peppeddu says:

    Looks like the stage is set for a class action lawsuit.

    The county seems to have a lot of money.
    There’s a lot of people involved.
    There are clear cut abuses and violations, some of which go clearly against Obama’s greeen policies.

    All we need is a team of high profile lawyers looking to make some money and become famous.

  16. orchidcup says:

    “All we need is a team of high profile lawyers looking to make some money and become famous.”

    Bingo.

    These people may have their rights, but the legal system is money-driven.

    Unless there are provable and demonstrable damages that result in a hefty negotiated monetary settlement or a jury verdict that can be appealed until long after these people are dead, no lawyer would touch this case.

    The cost of litigation would come out of the pockets of the lawyers with no guarantee of a return on their investment.

    Then the county would have deeper pockets to hire better gunslingers.

    This is a no-win situation for these people. Damn shame.

  17. Glenn E. says:

    Simple. the very rich want an exclusive place where they can go to hid, when the hungry starving hordes of humanity rise up and strike back. So they don’t want a bunch of dirt farmers already crowding their multi-acre villas, on the high desert. Whenever the rich want anything, poorer people already have. They get the state government to do their dirty work of running the riffraff out. And unoccupied land can always be bought for less than occupied land. The California NAT is being used as a property cleansing agent.

  18. Glenn E. says:

    Right after the NAT moves everyone out of the deserts. The people should post signs saying, “The area will be designated Ground Zero, when the civil revolution begins.” And put up some standard radiation symbol signs, to drive home the point.

  19. Glenn E. says:

    The way this county agency is operating in such secrecy. It makes me think that some cult desires to take over this land. One of those whack job things that Hollywood celebrities poor their millions into. And they need the isolation, to avoid public scrutiny of their bizarre hedonist lifestyles and slave labor practices. I’ve read accounts of cult properties in the desert, west of LA, before. And former conscript laborers having to escape from there. It’s on the internet, just look for it.

  20. ramuno says:

    Los Angeles County is controled ($) by housing developers. They have the politicians force sewers and other utilties in the rural areas so that it can be overbuilt, like the rest of the county.



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