So a few towns in Northern Washington are talking about becoming “Transition Towns.” This seems to be despite the fact that nobody knows what this means. It’s part of Agenda 21, the scheme to produce one world government run by the Elites. So I find this video supposedly explaining it in 5 minutes. This is worse than the Werner Erhard EST crap. It is pure blather that says nothing. What am I missing? Why do I see this as pure nonsense.
Do-ill==you’ve trotted out this tripe 3-4 times now, never with a link. I’m sure you have a link for this, aka–you didn’t just make it up, but I’d like to see your source.
What “exactly” did they say?
Peak Oil and Coal reserves for 200+ years isn’t the issue. The issue is we are going to suffocate in our effulence if we don’t stop burning carbon for energy. ITS NOT ONLY ABOUT mere temp change, weather change, sea level rise, and ocean acidification.
No–its about consequent changes after/along with all that like releasing the hydrates stored in the permafrost, shallow seas, and deep ocean locations. We very literally will poison ourselves from methane gas if we get warm enough to release it. H2S, hydrogen sulfide is another gas that will be released at higher temps. It also is a killer.
That–plus I don’t believe for a minute you actually conveyed the facts accurately.
Where is your link or are you actually reading the contrary press from 30 years ago? Why not throw in their are more polar bears?
The sea level keeps rising:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise
I’m lazy and I don’t want to look it all back up because you are to lazy to use a search engine but NASA is the source of cloud level falling and sea level falling and it is simple satellite data. NASA explained the sea levels are falling as being due to flooding. I’m not aware of any new oceans so I’m not buying.
The fact that three ice bridges closed the Baring Strait last year is something that is public information and you should be able to easily find doing a search because I did.
You might listen in to this man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VakA4-qAuWE
He actually does a fairly decent job of forecasting major weather events for a month or so out which gives him more credibility than the any government climate agency with me. He can forecast the hurricane season fairly well which is something our government has stopped even attempting to do because it was a total fail whale. This man has a fairly decent success rate.
While his modals are no doubt in error to some degree that fact that he can make a long range forecast that isn’t total crap suggests his modals more closely approximate reality than the crap being pushed by the doomsday crowd.
You might also recall reading this or you should: http://ricochet.com/main-feed/50-NASA-Scientists-Against-Global-Warming
The bottom line is the same as always. Climate change is real but we don’t control it nor have we ever controlled it.
By the way Google has a filter that allows you to check for more current information and I do use it to keep up with things such as what is actually happening on topics like climate change rather than take my information from the hacks in the lame media and the greens who have created some sort of weird religious doomsday cult around the idea that man made global warming is going to destroy the universe.
Figures. You are going to trust a weatherman over the consensus of climate scientists and a blog posting about a letter of protest from again non climate scientists.
Yes, it only takes one yahoo to disprove the majority. so we have creationist museums showing adam and jebus riding dinosaurs.
All do-ill approved. Say do-ill==what would happen if we exloded 100 Nukes at ground level? Would that affect the climate at all? Or still nothing we do affects the know nothing status quo? If an effect there would be, why not the same amount of particulates put into the air over the course of 200 years?
Whats the critical difference?
No difference = no think.
Dolt.
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
THE UNIVERSE EXISTS FOR AMERICANS TO LIVE LARGE. PERIOD! TELLING AN AMERICAN TO LOWER THEIR LIFESTYLE IS THE ULTIMATE SIN! IF AMERICANS DON’T GET TO HAVE BIG HOUSES A LONG WAY FROM WHERE THEY WORK AND DRIVE 4X4S BACK AND FORTH, IT’S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE FOR EVERY LIVING THING ON THIS PLANET TO PERISH!
Sorry to shout but some can’t see priorities even in front of their face. It’s wonderful and desirable to look for other energy sources, but only in the context of maintaining and growing lifestyles. We are humans, we deserve better than high density housing and mass transit. If that’s the future, better that all life in the entire universe is extinguished.
(I could say more but I’m holding back and being very low key..)
http://www.freedomadvocates.org/articles/illegitimate_government/transition_into_what%3F_20110111426/
it all seems a bit hinky to me. The national transition town sites are full of non-logic-happytalk-gobbledgook. It’s too vague. The people promoting them are all spouting whatever “close walmarts” “sustainable greens” “good water, and air” “smaller government”. But seems to just be to get people signed on.
“Nobody” clearly means you and nobody you care about and that’s an okay sample pool for a personal opinion but it’s a bad sample pool for policy.
A transition town is one that has been proactive in restoring the food, energy and skills they would need to have to live without a steady flow of cheap oil. It’s about ensuring farmland nearby, that gardeners and farmers understand which crops can grow with natural rainfall, how to use compost, crop rotation and permaculture to reduce dependence on fertilizer and pesticides. It is about homeowners knowing how to make repairs with improvised materials instead of waiting for Home Depot to get a replacement in. It is about looking at the resources that are available locally and putting a premium on keeping industries alive that can produce those resources — even if it is at a craftsperson level.
If you don’t like the liberal, lefty name to it, call it homesteading. Call it survival skills if you like — although it’s a bit different in that it’s about getting everyone in the town to that point and not about being the last person in your town standing.
I won’t bother to point you to the transition towns website, but if you’d like an exercise in imagining what this might look like, check out “Island in the Sea of Time” by SM Stirling.
Perhaps they are preparing for the arrival of the “Mother Ship” (on Mother’s Day !) – just be sure to hold onto your BALLS !!!
One word, no hyphen:
halfway, manmade, snowfall
half-way, man-made, snow-fall
or
half way, man made, snow fall
or
almost there, hand crafted, frozen water
or
I’m as dumb as shit, global warming denier
its all the same thing.
So…
1. What’s the problem?
2. Is there a way to eliminate “the problem”?
3. Is there a way to postpone “the problem” if it is inevitable?
4. What’s the last day on which we can procrastinate yet still fix “the problem”?
If the “movers and shakers” can’t agree on answers to these questions, I suggest we PARTY ON and beg the foregiveness of future generations for “kicking the oil can down the road”.
To me the problem is that hucksters, some of whom are pretending to be scientists while violating all the rules of science, are scamming an utterly scientifically illiterate public by using the kinds of scams normally only effective on the most ignorant and superstitions people imaginable.
Bobbo for example wants me to link him to articles that support what I say rather than use a search engine himself or spend the time needed to look up raw data and see if somebody really fudged something or check out what was already known and if that data got adjusted yet he thinks his views are better and based or more solid information even though his postings suggests he’s got at least a suspicion he may have been at least slightly lead astray.
On the global warming front I was recently not amused to see on Weather Underground that they were using a chart to show the infamous hockey stick curve created by a not overly respected NASA scientist that conveniently stops about 10 years ago that makes what he claimed was a whole degree of climate change using rather fudged data look vastly large than it was.
Fudged because the real data suggests the 30s were warmer than the present. It’s only the “adjusted” data that suggests anything else.
This is the same dude that triggered the protest by the 50 gentlemen from NASA however it is my understanding that his prophecies of doom draw in about 100,000,000 a year to the agency so I doubt if they are going to make any changes soon.
He has big ears.
“Agenda 21, the scheme to produce one world government run by the Elites” I don’t think I’m being cynical when I ask, “But isn’t the world already run by the elites?”
Nowadays there are at least 2 or 3 different elites with some subdivisions among them. Agenda 21 is like just one gang ruling everything.
For those of you who say and believe that the majority must always be right. And their combined wisdom and experience can’t not be disputed. I give one example of the lone visionary who disproves the rule. Alfred Wegener. Read and learn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Wegener
Transition towards the FEMA camps? Those towns maybe have a railroad?
This is all very well and good if people will change…
OK, that’s the end of that I guess!