Executive Privilege has become over the years sort of like taking the fifth in court. It implies — rightly or wrongly — guilt.

UPDATE: Holder cited for contempt of Congress.

President Obama asserted executive privilege over documents related to the “Fast and Furious” operation Wednesday as a House panel moved to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt for failing to cooperate with a related congressional inquiry.
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Sharing the “Fast and Furious” documents “would raise substantial separation of powers concerns and potentially create an imbalance in the relationship” between Congress and the White House, Holder wrote in a letter to Obama delivered late Tuesday.



  1. Fast and Furious indeed. Not our government, you know it was more like slow and complacent.

  2. deowll says:

    So the President asserts that documents he says he’s never seen are vital to national security?

    The documents they asked for last were related to how they manged to misinform Congress and not get back until they were called on it something like a year later. I suppose that could be a vital security issue for this President.

  3. Somebody says:

    That’s nothing.

    Obama can go to war in Libya without asking for a declaration of war.

    And he can even send Leon Panetta over to the hill to tell the congress that they don’t even need congress to approve any wars if it’s OK with the UN or NATO.

    And there’s still no impeachment.

    So, I don’t think Obama or Holder is going to sweat not cooperating with a congressional investigation.

    In fact, I don’t think they are going to worry that it is as plain as day that they planned to get people killed – just to undermine the 2nd Amendment their oaths of office notwithstanding.

    If you think about it, the only thing Caesar had that Obama doesn’t yet is lifetime tenure.

    How long do you think he’s going to put up with being the only African president who is not president-for-life?

    • Idlesteve1 says:

      that’s any president ! and the rest of your statment is crazy talk !

  4. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    OBAMA is covering up for Bush in spite of the fact that mastermind (Bush) sabotaged the economy so well Obama can’t fix it.

    I believe that, don’t you.

    • Dallas says:

      I don’t believe the Cheney administration under Bush intentionally screwed the American economy and plundered the US treasury. It was a mistake.

      Who knew an unfunded trillion dollar war and trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthy would add up so quickly?

      Give the poor guy a break and don’t ruin his summer BBQ’s with these accusations.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        So Bush’s unintentional mistake in late 08 is stronger than Obama’s deliberate action for 3.5 years, via his supermajority:

        The bailouts, the stimulus and health care (it was sold as a jobs program, in case you forgot).
        .
        All those were supposed to fix the economy, which Obama and Biden said was in “recovery summer” last year.

        So it cannot be Obama is incompetent..Bush must be an evil mastermind ferociously manipulating the Capitalists to tank the economy…to make things hard for our most intelligent and articulate president ever.

        But now that Obama is morphing into Nixon, will he begin saying “I’m not a crook.”???

        • pedro says:

          Two delusional guys having a “conversation”. This is like watching National Geographic

        • Dallas says:

          Obama’s stimulus package saved the US economic collapse. That’s common knowledge by now. The slow recovery is linked directly to Europe which only took austerity measures. Now they’re fucked and stalling the world recovery. The US growth rate is the highest of the western nations.

          Obamacare was never intended or sold as a perfect system -a start. The healthcare industry has already decided to keep many elements in place regardless what the GOP installed Supreme Court does. This is true even if Sugar Daddy Adelsem buys the Mormon Cult leader the Presidency.

          You might be spared the Death Panel but only because I have better things to do.

          • pedro says:

            Obomba’s Stimulus Package is a continuation of Dumbya’s Stimulus Package. That’s how big a sheep are you. Go chew some grass.

          • NewformatSux says:

            Obama has said that he is not the one who is responsible for the stimulus package. So if the stimulus saved the US economy, the credit goes to George Bush. How else can Obama claim to have the slowest increase in spending of any president?

  5. JohnK says:

    This crap started in 2006 under W. and his clowns. Why has no Bushie been called by Rep. Issa (the criminal)?

    • pedro says:

      Bush is still in power? I thought there was change!

      Idiot

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Holder retracted that statement, his predecessor didn’t have any knowledge of the program.

      Obama and Holder wanted to attack the 2nd amendment…they were going to cite Mexican deaths as proof guns should be illegal…

      Obama and Holder are guilty of murder and deserve to be prosecuted.

      • Guyver says:

        This could potentially be bigger than the Wategate scandal… but the mainstream media will likely look the other way.

  6. Charliej says:

    Congress wants to cite Holder for contempt. He is in good company, I don’t know anyone who does not hold congress in contempt. This repub congress deserves nothing but contempt.

    • Mextli: ABO says:

      Sad isn’t it they cannot seem to maintain the standard set by Anthony Weiner.

  7. gquaglia says:

    Fast and Furious leads right up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. No wonder Obama wants to cover it up.

  8. NewformatSux says:

    The documents being requested are from 2011, and are regarding the DOJ’s response to an investigation. Already the DOJ and Eric Holder have been caught in lies, and have withdrawn their Feb 2011 later in December. Congress wants to know who told them to lie.

    • Ah_Yea says:

      It’s simple.
      The President told them to lie. Hence the Executive Privilege.

  9. NewformatSux says:

    Those documents must be toxic. Because this will be a net negative politically for Obama. The media has been covering for him. NBC Nightly News has covered the topic for a total of 10 seconds. New York Times didn’t even report on the meeting or threatened contempt vote today. Now by asserting executive privilege, the media will cover the story more.

    Media just keeps covering for the president. Some politically savvy people had no idea why Obama was joking at the media dinner about eating dog. They got all their news from New York Times and other conventional sources.

  10. NewformatSux says:

    First they tried to claim it didn’t happen. Then they tried to claim Bush and AG Mukasey knew about it. Both statements have been ‘withdrawn’. Normally when people are caught in perjury they face consequences, but for the big folks it’s a different set of rules.

  11. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Drudge has a picture of an Obama Nixon composite…

    • NewformatSux says:

      Yet somehow George Bush got the Nixon comparison today from the people at this site…

      • SchwettyBalls says:

        Comparing George Bush to Nixon would be a comparing the worst president in history to the second worst president in history. You can decide which is which. It’s a moot point.

  12. chuckie says:

    Without glancing over any preceding comments, dare I ask if anyone read, say, Holder’s letter to Issa immediately preceding this vote?

    Oh.

  13. Guyver says:

    First the executive order for Obama’s Dream Act and now this. LOL.

  14. NewformatSux says:

    Holder should never have been confirmed after his involvement in the Mark Rich pardon and the lies he told about it.

  15. pedro says:

    And as if we needed more proof that Obama is involved, out comes Pelosi crying foul over Holder’s contempt vote.

  16. NewformatSux says:

    It gets worse. at the press conference, Jay Carney was trying to claim that Holder in fact put a stop to Fast and Furious. Only Holder testified to Congress 5 months after it was stopped that he heard about the program on the news. Magic Holder can stop programs that he doesn’t even know about. The presser got worse as Carney knew nothing and even got the name wrong of the border agent who got killed.

  17. bobbo, man enough to go first says:

    Executive Privilege has become over the years sort of like taking the fifth in court. It implies — rightly or wrongly — guilt. /// Thats a good general initial assumption. In this case, it all comes down to exactly what is being sought as I think “all” the papers pertaining to the program while it was in operation have been provided? …XXXXX and rereading NFS, I see I am wrong. Yes–once an official is caught in a bald lie then “everything” he is doing should be investigated. Crap does not come in small nuggets, it comes in truckloads.

    Fast and Furious is irrelevant. Why hasn’t Holder/OBAMA prosecuted the truck loads of fraudulent Banksters? Its THAT not illegals, not guns, that has gut stuck America and bleeding us dry.

    Shit from shinola. Look, just LOOK!!!