In the coming weeks, the hand wringing from the left will be hard at work trying to convince you that American citizens have no right to self-protection. Unfortunately the horse has already left the barn, the weapons are in the hands of the bad guys, banks are laundering money for the drug cartels, and the US Government looks the other way. In some cases the US Gov’t, under Attorney General Eric Holder, has facilitated the sale of weapons to the drug cartels. There is no way to turn that around. Ask yourself this question: How well has gun prohibition worked out for the Mexican populace?
I am not sure how this guy could have purchased all these weapons so easily. Case in point: When I was in the USCG back in the 70′s I was assigned to Search and Rescue but part of my duty was as a Boarding Officer in the stupid Drug War during the Carter Admin. Thus I was sent to Federal Law Enforcement schools in Virginia. I became, at that point a Federal Law Enforcement officer.
I served my hitch and never owned a gun until a few years ago, I went to a shop in Colorado and tried to purchase a pistol. They did a standard background check thru the State Bureau of Investigation, and I was denied based on an incident about a year before my joining the Coast Guard, even though the charges were dismissed, and the Coast Guard had no problem with the “incident”, I had to appeal to the SBI and it took 6 months to clear this up.
So Guv trusted me enough to be a Federal LEO, but not enough as a private citizen? It doesn’t add up that this guy could arm up like this, when it was so difficult for myself. Every time he purchased a weapon, a background check would have been run, the SBI in Colorado would have noticed something.
In other words, this thing stinks.
Four guns, no big deal I have three times as many, background check on about half. Some were family guns and other purchased before the installation of the system. Walk into Bass pro, cabela’s etc. Pick your AR15 pay your money and walk out. Fortunately he picked the AR and not the AK, a freaking AK never jams, it might fall apart, but it never jams.
The whole body of text stinks imo. It’s implying once in no outs available. What a way to think in life! Hell, lets not even try anything for that matter lmao.
In regards to gun I realize many like to own them for various reasons. And while I would like to own a gun I am definitely not someone that should have a gun at all. As I’ve said before I’m very capable with arms but I stay away from them like the plague. I realize people like me should never ever own a gun and I believe there are many out there who are similar to myself. Just that alone makes me worry.
“Every time he purchased a weapon, a background check would have been run,” //// ummh……//////=====lol>>>NO. 40% of gun sales are done thru the loophole of “casual sales” like at flea markets and gun shows WHERE NO BACKGROUND CHECK IS REQUIRED AT ALL—and by law, courtesy of the NRA.
What happened to you sounds right to me. The system is set up to do a fresh check and not rely on a potentially faulty check by the Navy. Little extra hassle to make sure the job is done right.
According to what I’ve read, he purchased his weapons from gun dealers, and at least here in Colorado, they are required to run it through the SBI. I have since purchased 3 firearms and every time they ran it through the CBI.
I think you are correct about gun shows, and I agree that they shouldn’t be any different than purchasing from a dealer.
And BTW, Coast Guard is not the Navy….har!
You mean I got all my facts wrong?
I hate it when that happens!! …. Only my intentional insults are meant to be.
I’m just a stoopid hooman.
I’m surprised that we haven’t seen video games blamed more for these sensless acts. The scary thing here is that everyone has unlimited access to guns and ammo. I have to show my ID and am limited in quanitity for the headache medecine that I buy but I can buy all the ammo I want?? How is that right?
Perhaps it is because some folks like to go the the range and target practice, despite your hurt feelings about it. If you don’t want any, don’t buy any.
How about eliminating BYO ammo to the range? I’m just thinking out loud. I don’t have an opinion either way, I’m just trying to think of how we can stop these nutcases from killing people. If they can “stop” meth heads from buying headache medecine, they should be able to put some sort of limit in place without terribly inconveniencing gun owners. That’s not to say wacko’s couldn’t stockpile to get around the limits.
It is interesting to read all these comments. Bottom line, nothing will change. No “gun control” will ever pass, despite the leftist hissy fits after every maniac attacks unarmed people.
I can possess guns, or not. I do. The Constitution describes that right. It does not “give me” that right. I already have it, despite it being in the Constitution.
That’s the way it should be.
Leftists want to run everybody’s life, all while chanting slogans like “Hands off my body”. How about leaving us all the F*** alone, and minding your own business?
Put a nice sign on your chest affirming your belief that nobody should defend their family and take a walk downtown on a Saturday night with Johnny and Susie.
Let us know how that works out for ya. If you survive.
all while chanting slogans like “Hands off my body”.
Interesting take there.
How are they going to stop someone from doing that? Voting? HAR!
Good to see that people blinded with simplistic, all back and white, views of life are getting defensive about gun “rights”.
You can squirm all you want, make all the excuses you want, point the fingers are people who disagree with your right wing ideology all you want, complain about people who actually read the constitution all you want. In the end, it is with support of people like *you* that most of the US population has been kept in a perpetual state of fear and kept in a society that is more third world than civilized.
So, go ahead, squirm… because in the end, you are the ones responsible for all this crap, not the people trying to use their brains to make the world a better place where our children can dream to see humanity achieve the unthinkable.
Actually, I feel little fear when I am carrying my pistol. I like it just like it is.
My my my. A little bit extreme, aren’t you? It’s MY fault criminals are running around? If you don’t want guns, don’t buy any. Why don’t you post a nice sign on your lawn stating that the residents are totally unarmed?
Fact is, folks who DO have firearms keep the pansies like you protected because the creeps don’t know who has ‘em. Regardless of your feelings, I can own firearms and ammunition, and there is nothing you can do about it.
Defending yourself from lawless individuals is using your brain to achieve the unthinkable.
Defending yourself is not a right wing ideology, it is a survival ideology.
The 71 year old man that shot the criminals was not a hero.
A hero ends up dead. The man was defending himself.
Criminals rely on your fear to defend yourself to gain the tactical advantage.
The people in the movie theater at the Colorado shooting had a tactical advantage. They outnumbered the shooter by hundreds to one.
A few guys with some presence of mind could have rushed the shooter while he was reloading or when his gun jammed, but they were all too busy crawling under the seats and praying for God to protect them.
Yep, somebody might have got a bullet in the eye but that is still better than begging a coward to spare your life, and some lives could have been saved.
Just sayin’ …
Note this theater was a designated gun-free zone. Noone is allowed to have guns there, per corporate policy.
I am talking about neutralizing a shooter without a gun. See below.
And how hard is it to sneak a gun into a theater? CW people sneak guns into places where they’re banned ALL THE TIME.
The problem is that CW folks in such situations simply run for their lives.
This is what I mean by “tactical advantage.”
Last Resort Active Shooter Survival Measures
I should point out that a shooter or a robber does not pause to ask you if you are a right-wing wingnut or a loony leftie before he shoots you.
He doesn’t give a shit.
It’s Not Johnny needs a good wash says:
7/23/2012 at 8:23 pm
It is interesting to read all these comments. Bottom line, nothing will change. /// Things always change, to and fro, back and forth, better and worse. Just watch.]
No “gun control” will ever pass, despite the leftist hissy fits after every maniac attacks unarmed people. /// Eventually it will—things getting worse before they get better. Could take a long time given that the rugged individualist fantasy exists for so many in the GOUSA==those thinking trying to do the least possible, like just complain, is throwing a hissy fit. Imagine==denigrating people complaining about having their family members shot at a movie.
I can possess guns, or not. I do. The Constitution describes that right. It does not “give me” that right. I already have it, despite it being in the Constitution. /// You are correct, Yoda style: you do or you do not. Rights become irrelevant except for their beliefs.
That’s the way it should be. /// What should be? Your having a gun status, or your right to have a gun status, or your belief in either?? Very mushy thinking.
Leftists want to run everybody’s life, all while chanting slogans like “Hands off my body”. /// Make the distinction how leftist are any different than anyone else with an opinion?
How about leaving us all the F*** alone, and minding your own business? /// Other people having or not having guns is everyone’s business. Could I say “Its our right!” or would that go entirely over your head?
Put a nice sign on your chest affirming your belief that nobody should defend their family and take a walk downtown on a Saturday night with Johnny and Susie. /// Only a dip shit thinks there is only one way to do a certain thing. All problems offer multiple solutions with their own attendant consequential unintended and intended effects. You are a good example of what happens when bound up by dogma: all other ideas/options/motives/freedoms are given up. Sad waste of a brain.
Let us know how that works out for ya. If you survive. /// I think anyone walking just about anywhere with a sign that said “Sign Here” would get in trouble. Too many rugged individuals out there waiting to show how manly they are.
I predict you and Liberty Loser will be dating soon.
Silly Hoomans.
The Framers of the Constitution did not make any distinction between religious fanatics, right wing wingnuts, or loony lefties.
If you wish to enslave your mind under the chains of dogma, that is your business.
I know plenty of loony lefties that conceal and carry guns. I know plenty of right wing wingnuts that conceal and carry. I know plenty of people, left and right, that are afraid of guns.
You have a duty to yourself to defend yourself against aggression.
In a perfect world, a Constitution or definition of human rights need not exist.
This is not a perfect world. We have people like bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist and Pat Robertson, the preacher on television that has conversations with God and presumes to know the mind of God.
In a crazy world like this we must think and act for ourselves. We must be rugged individualists. Free thinkers.
I question everything and always have. To be honest (a rare thing for me) I would rather sit down and have a beer with bobbo than give one second of my time to Pat Robertson.
If bobbo or Pat Robertson threaten to deny my right to think and live within the bounds of the law, I will defend myself.
If you don’t like our laws then by all means change them. Don’t expect me to support any effort that leaves me defenseless from religious fanatics and criminals.
Orchi–just to be clear: are you, or are you not, defenseless when considering the laws of society if you don’t have a gun?
Not to give away my possession, but here is another gunless consideration: conflation.
Know it, and avoid it.
Might take more than one beer to understand the concept although you see it in operation in most arguments……. such as yours.
Didn’t Australia strip its citizens of guns and within 2 years crimes went up by ~ 40%?
Did I hear after 4 years crimes went down by 89%?
what???? ….. thats nonsense? === What I heard???
Never mind.
89% from the pre-ban rates or AFTER it went up by 40%? What’s the net effect?
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