Not to steal blogger Marc Perkel’s comment stream, but at least let’s base this debate on something measurable rather than speeches by Bush, Obama and the bloviation you hear on MSNBC, CNN and FOX. Look at these numbers!! And of course the real growth market is in the Department of Homeland Security and drone manufacturing.



  1. orchidcup says:

    I have long enjoyed the friendship and companionship of Republicans because I am by instinct a teacher, and I would like to teach them something.

    Democratic President Woodrow Wilson

  2. orchidcup says:

    The awakening of the people of China to the possibilities under free government is the most significant, if not the most momentous, event of our generation.

    Democratic President Woodrow Wilson

  3. orchidcup says:

    The American Revolution was a beginning, not a consummation.

    Democratic President Woodrow Wilson

  4. Somebody says:

    I suppose it’s just a coincidence that unemployment tends to go up when the bankers are a bit peckish for war.

  5. orchidcup says:

    If there are men in this country big enough to own the government of the United States, they are going to own it.

    Democratic President Woodrow Wilson

    Those were the good old days.

  6. brm says:

    I’m better off because the iPhone and Facebook grew the number of everyday internet users by a lot – and my business is wholly dependent on that.

    However my parents lost half of their retirement savings, so that sucks.

    Oh yeah, I have to hear everyone bitch about politics non-stop. Mostly in the form of cutesy anti-the-opposing-party image memes. Definitely a minus.

    • brm says:

      I misunderstood the question a bit. Changes the response, but not by much.

      My parents got most of their savings back since 2008 – course, they’re gonna lose it again in a year or two, regardless of this election’s result.

      Everything else above still applies.

  7. Nixon for Republican factchecker-in-chief says:

    Looking at the intro paragraph – John, I thought you still had an interest in cars. Stats for the auto industry mean a great deal more to the American economy than the
    Politician’s ever-fave military.

    One of the striking differences between the immediate comprehension of what was needed heading into the Bush Crash – vs Romney’s editorializing in favor of bankruptcy. And it is paying off.

  8. NewformatSux says:

    Number of Medicare recipients is set to double, as is the cost per recipient. 4 years ago, that was still true, but we had four more years to try and fix the problem.

  9. Derek says:

    Aaaaaaand like an idiot, the liberal blinders cant seem to see the whole picture.

    If my house is worth less than I owe on it, no I’m not better off than I was 4 years ago. If my retirement has lost 40% of it’s value, no I’m not better off than I was 4 years ago. If my government is 6 trillion dollars more in debt, no I’m not better off than I was 4 years ago. If gas is 2 dollars more expensive, no I’m not better off than I was 4 years ago. If I am now being taxed for no other reason than existing, no I’m not better off than I was 4 years ago.

    In a lib’s mind, it doesnt matter if we are slaves to the government, if the unemployment level is low, all is good…

    Idiots…

  10. JimD, Boston, MA says:

    Of course we are better off – BUSH AND CHENEY ARE STILL GONE !!!

  11. NewformatSux says:

    Look carefully at that red line chart. The unemployment level on that measure started dropping after Republicans were elected, and the Bush tax cuts were extended.

  12. OvenMaster says:

    I’ll be better off as soon as I can start printing up T-shirts that say, “I survived the Obama presidency”.