By Uncle Dave
Sunday September 9, 2012
Excellent quote on the bottom from the late, great Frank Zappa.
Found by Brother Uncle Don somewhere here.
You libs love to complain but who is that has stomped on and taken more freedoms in the last decade ….. give you 3 guesses and take away 2……….. your savior the great and mighty OZ otherwise known as Obama, The empty suit
It all started with the repukatons
President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001 signed USA PATRIOT act that stands for Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act.
And what good is it to have the PATRIOT act if you don’t have Homeland Security Act (HSA) of 2002 and again signed into law by President George W. Bush in November 2002.
February, 2009: Republican Senators Demand Guantanamo Remain Open
February 14, 2009: Justice Department Considers Releasing Internal Report Critical of Bush-Era Lawyers
March 3, 2009: Law Expert: Memos Prove US a ‘Dictatorship’ for Last Seven Years of Bush Presidency
No, no, no, no, no!
George W. Bush saved this country by locking it down and providing us with cradle-to-grave security in the form of a police state.
You have the narrative all wrong.
Barack Hussein Obama retroactively formed the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA in 2002 after he became President. Then he started two expensive wars and bailed out the banksters on Wall Street shortly before he took office.
You are blaming the Republicans for our current problems. You should know better.
I blame 9/11.
After that, without extremely tight security on mass transit, the public confidence level would be very low.
I think it is a tragedy, but a necessary one.
Especially, with these economic conditions … when the economy sucks, the risks of radicals increase with more people in hard times.
Radicals? What radicals?
Do you mean the radical left or the radical right?
Or do you mean radical terrorists?
You must be over 70 years age
So the only one to blame is the one who started it. Not the one who said it’ll make it disappear but made it worse. Silly liberuls.
Pedro, who do you charge with murder if a reckless texas truck driver runs over a pedestrian on the side walk and the person dies months later at hands of a well trained doctor in the hospital?
Being the apparent republican, you would likely use the GWB argument “focus on the future, not the past”.
Or as you put it, “So the only one to blame is the one who started it. Not the one who said it’ll make it disappear but made it worse.”
I have a picture of a camel in an airport parking lot, I think that explains it and is hilarious at the same time.
Zappa’s quote is all so true..
and the link to the motelynews is broken… one too many / in it
Some of you want to blame the Repubs and some the Dems. I blame the sniveling cowards in both parties who want to put the nation in a martial law lock down in part out of pure cowardice and in part so the sniveling cowards in the public will vote for their re-election.
As for as who is now considered to be a suspected terrorist, I say everybody though Obama’s WH gets to decide who gets harassed and prevented from flying or has the injustice department sent after them.
Of course a side issue is that these people have way to much money to spend in an effective manner and way to many bored people with nothing to do so they are now messing with the public because they have nothing better to do.
I don’t think either party is to blame.
The one thing that the American public won’t tolerate are terrorist attacks on American soil.
Now … sometimes when you get what you want, you get something else you do not want (the TSA, warrantless wiretapping, etc.)
The real question … why has America been drifting toward extremism? Or is it we are just more aware of it these days?
We didn’t lock down the country after the unibomber or the incident at the Atlanta Olympics or Oklahama City Bombing.
I think the internet and modern communications increases the level of threat that radicals of any flavor can inflict (Jihad, environmentalists, etc.) to coordinate.
When our own government becomes a terrorist, what are we to do?
Don’t you remember the threat-level assessments that were every color of the rainbow? Low, Medium, High, and Run For Cover?
Don’t forget the movie massacres, the school massacres, the shopping mall massacres, the college massacres all carried out by non-muslim extremists.
Then there was that muslim psychiatrist at Fort Hood.
I recommend listening to No Agenda and you will probably soon discover were all the fake terrorism nonsense comes from. And the fake two party system also.
I think the biggest indictment against the Obama administration is their record on civil liberties. That said, I have NOT forgotten how we got to our current state of liberty and economics and all the crap flowing out of the republican mouths won’t change history. I find myself stuck with a vote for the lesser of evils or no vote at all. FWIW
Your vote is worthless. Throw it away if you like.
Don’t contribute to the madness.
I keep running into the same dissatisfaction with the bicameral nature of party politics (as implemented in the united states.)
This country was originally founded without parties.
Lets try that again…
People voting for evil (the lesser of two evils) is why the country is in the mess it is. There are third parties who haven’t proven themselves to be evil. So you can vote for evil again, or vote third party and not be culpable for the destruction of the nation.
I love the quote from Frank Zappa.
He’s right about what will replace it, because its going to become too expensive to keep up the shadow puppet theatre, but he’s wrong about what it actually going to cost us.
The price for security is freedom, but the price for freedom is security.
If he price for both and/or either is too much then you can look forward to getting neither. (The military/industrial/educational complex isn’t cheap, but politicians are.)
The cost-cutting approach of the 1%ers if to cut all of us 99%ers off.
Social security, health care, the USDA, the FDA, the Wall Street regulators, the Bank regulators, the various trade associations are all going to become, quote, drags on the economy, unquote, but don’t look for your taxes to go down. (The enforcement arm of the IRS is secure.)
When the military becomes privatized as a cost cutting measure is when the era of the USA comes to an end.
The oligarchy will still be the oligarchy, with their millennial problem of what to with their money in a thousand years.
The real terrorist is in the White House. He has killed more than one person per day for his entire 4 year term, just counting the deaths by drone in Pakistan alone. He is killing people all over the world with no due process of law and dares to call honest Americans terrorists. I am sick of this crock of shit you guys call a government. There are 1460 days in his term and he admits to killing 1488 people by drone strike in Pakistan and admits there have been killings in 75 different countries. If that isn’t terror what the hell is?
It’s easy to spot a terrorist. They have little elephant lapel pins.
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