True or not, doesn’t it make political sense to not talk down to, diss, insult, or whatever you want to call it, exactly the people who you want to switch and vote for you? Combine this with all his other gaffs during the last [pick a time frame] and his staff’s infighting over how to proceed and either he is completely out his mind or out of touch with the world or he simply wants to lose so Obama wins and gets blamed as we fall over the cliff during the next few years.

There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care of them, who believe that they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing, to you name it,” Romney said in a videotaped speech to donors that was given to the news organization Mother Jones, which posted it online Monday.

“That’s an entitlement,” Romney said. “And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. … These are people who pay no income tax.”



  1. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Romney proved once again how out of touch he is with mainstream America…even if 47% of the people are on entitlements, there exists a large percentage that prefer a job instead, who would jump at the chance to get off the dole.

    Instead of writing 47% off, articulate how he is going to make good paying jobs available to them.

    How less regulation will result in a booming economy that might even mirror the Roaring 20′s, after President Coolidge slashed Government and taxes….increasing everyone’s freedom.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Romney’s inability to articulate freedom and its benefits to voters is one reason why many conservatives consider him a poor candidate…who will lose.

      The x factor is Paul Ryan, no doubt he can fix this….put this gaffe behind them….and articulate how freedom increases everyone’s wealth once the people are allowed to generate wealth.

      Think Steven Jobs….all the wealth he created….removing the regulations that prevent a new Steve Jobs from appearing…is precisely what we need to do.

      • RR1 says:

        Yes, we should be concerned about creating jobs in China like Steve was.

        • orchidcup says:

          Don’t forget Michael Dell, creating jobs for slave laborers in Shanghai, China and tech support people in India and elsewhere.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          Because the propaganda press only spins the progressive story, you never heard the whole story why Apple has factories in China instead of here.

          It wasn’t wage scales, it was regulations that drove Apple overseas. Apple needs flexibility, to be able to change it product and materials quickly…and that is impossible in the US where all things must be approved by Government regulators.

          But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.

          Why can’t that work come home? Obama asked.

          Jobs’ reply was unambiguous. “Those jobs aren’t coming back,” he said, according to another dinner guest.

          The president’s question touched upon a central conviction at Apple. It isn’t just that workers are cheaper abroad. Rather, Apple’s executives believe the vast scale of overseas factories as well as the flexibility, diligence and industrial skills of foreign workers have so outpaced their U.S. counterparts that “Made in the USA” is no longer a viable option for most Apple products.

          http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20120123/ARTICLE/301239999

          Apple failed to mention lawsuit abuse, but no doubt that also was a factor in moving overseas, just as its a factor in foreign bank accounts….any money left in the US can be taken away by a slip and fall lawyer.

          • Gildersleeve says:

            Jobs reply was unambiguous? Yeah right. Like so many of Jobs interviews, when confronted with a hard question, he simply pulls off the mic and leaves the room. That’s not a response, it’s a hissy fit. Instead of pulling a Romney and answering these questions they way he’d like (and ending up alienating all his fanboys), he COULD attempt to provide a way answer the base question, and offer his opinions on what it would take to bring the jobs back here. Call it civic duty. But no, this would never materialize. This is one reason why I don’t buy Apple products anymore. And this is, in general, why America isn’t doing as well as it ought. No one is trying. Certainly Steve wasn’t even interested in trying. No one believes anyone with power is interested either.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            If you try to start a business, then you will learn how Government makes that very hard. Until you try to exercise your freedom to pursue happiness in the free market, you won’t know how badly that freedom has been diminished by regulations.

          • So what says:

            Just exactly what business did you start? What regulations have kept you from succeeding?

  2. bobbo, one true Liberal recognizing Obama is too far Right says:

    Alfie–three posts in a row all saying the same nonsensical thing? What are you doing? Amassing your argument?

    What you and Dipwad RMoney need to APPRECIATE is probably 95% of those 47% that RMoney was actually thinking about: “Those who don’t pay income tax” are no doubt working one or even two jobs especially per household if not individually.

    That is the CRIME that Pukes have pushed onto the gullible such as yourself: impune vaguely some group and get the rabble eating their own. And there you are Alfie, with three portions thinking your are the rich that provide all the leeches with jobs if they are only willing to work.

    The cess pool you call your mind is truly something to behold.

    Hook …………………….. line ………………………… and stinker.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      I know the underground economy exists, but if people had a choice, they wouldn’t go that route.

      While I joke about money, fact is my small company nets me around $50k, meaning I get by, but certainly I’m not rich.

      I love freedom, progressives are robbing us of that. I think it morally wrong I leave behind a country that is less free than I was born into, hence I’m against statism for philosophical reasons, not for tax breaks for the rich. Don’t know any rich.

  3. orchidcup says:

    Alfred E. Neuman showed up today. What a surprise.

    Willard Romoney was born into a privileged class of people that had daddy’s money to support him through college and a daddy that had business and political connections that assisted little Willard up the ranks of the business world.

    Willard did not grow up like a normal human being that starts working a minimum wage job as a teenager and then works their way through college and then pounds the pavement to seek a career without any assistance from daddy and his connections.

    That is why Willard is out of touch with reality. He is part of an elite group of people that were born into privilege and wealth.

    Like George W. Bush, the elitist that came before Willard.

    That is why Willard pisses off the people like me who actually worked for everything we own and have accomplished in spite of people like Willard.

    • orchidcup says:

      The elite snobbery and stink of privilege that exudes from every pore of Willard’s skin is very offensive to conservatives that started with nothing and worked their way up in the business world without the greased rails of a trust fund and stock holdings that provided a secure ladder to boost little Willard to the level of the privileged wealthy class that populates the executive ranks of corporations.

      Every conservative I know that owned a business on Main Street started with a small business loan and an idea and worked very hard through very tough and risky economic circumstances, only to lose almost everything because of the economic disaster caused by the Republican administration that preceded the Obama administration.

      Conservatives like me have a long memory. We remember who was asleep at the wheel when the economy crashed into a brick wall in the years leading up to 2008, and it damn sure was not Barack Obama.

      Now the Republicans expect hard working people to vote for the same kind of elitist snobbery that got us into trouble in the first place.

      No thank you, Willard. You are Bush 3.0, a nauseating repeat of privileged puke.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      You got a bad case of Mitt envy. Neither does your words communicate you’re self made…likely, as is true with most progressive attacks, you are guilty of what you attack others for…misdirecting attention from yourself, to others.

      • orchidcup says:

        I have worked every day of my life since the age of 14 and I have never taken a handout from the government or my daddy.

        Willard Romoney lived off the welfare provided by his daddy like all the privileged wealthy elite.

        That is the kind of hypocrisy that turns people off.

        Your kind of hypocrisy.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          You show no respect for a self made man like Romney, which means you aren’t.

          Romney gave away Daddy’s money, moved to a different state, so he could make it on his own, without Daddy.

          I’m had some time to think about Romney’s statement, which wasn’t for public consumption…but as an answer to a supporter’s question…

          And he didn’t say anything I haven’t said here, albeit without percentages….saying:

          This Nov. we will learn if this is a nation wanting to trade their freedom for freebies, or if its still the land of the free, home of the brave, who carry their own weight.

          14 might be your head measurement, it isn’t when you started working.

  4. Nitroneo says:

    Truth cuts deep but cuts clean.

    Supported in todays CNS article “August, according to the BLS, only 63.5 percent of the civilian population (those over 16, who were not in the military or in an institution) participated in the labor force. That was the lowest level of labor force participation in 31 years. To participate in the labor force a person must either have a job or at least be actively trying to find one.”

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/8786049-yet-another-record-americans-collecting-disability

    • orchidcup says:

      To participate in the labor force a person must either have a job or at least be actively trying to find one.

      I know of independent contractors in my area that worked in the home building industry that ended up working at a fast-food restaurant for minimum wage when the housing industry went bust.

      The last thing these people need is a lecture from Willard Romoney about hard work.

      These people I know worked 60-70 hours per week before Bush took a wrecking ball to the economy and now they are struggling to make mortgage payments while working 2 or 3 part-time jobs and selling off assets to stay afloat.

      Others were not so lucky. They were forced to take unemployment benefits and food stamps while looking for employment that is not there.

      Now Willard Romoney insists on insulting them by insinuating they are freeloaders that depend on entitlements.

      What a douche bag elitist prick. Go to hell, Willard Romoney!

      • Sea Lawyer says:

        You mean people who worked themselves out of a job building the glut of overpriced houses that the real estate bubble produced? I didn’t see local governments, in their thirst for ever more property tax revenue, hold back on issuing new building permits; and yet it’s all Bush’s fault for swinging the recking ball that put these people out of work. Yeah, sure…

        • orchidcup says:

          The workers that built the homes did not create the housing bubble.

          It is not their fault that the lending industry wrote loans to people that were not qualified, nor is it their fault that Wall Street bundled mortgage derivatives and sold fraudulent securities that required a bailout from the government.

          Perhaps you were not paying attention.

          • bobbo, one true Liberal recognizing Obama is too far Right says:

            Bravo Orchi – don’t let out of order Sea Lawyers try to hang Wallstreets Crime on the Working Class.

            Its too much in the vein of thinking that people working two jobs to tread water are leeches because they don’t pay income tax==IE==the very tax that Romoney does everything he can do to avoid himself.

            Pack of lying hypocrits who think the middle class is $250K per year. You know earns less than $250K per year? Thats right — leaches just looking for government hand outs.

            SL–have you moved right in the past few years? Why support a party you “used to” just because they share the same name?

            Enough to make a maggot puke.

  5. msbpodcast says:

    Mitenz or O’mama, what’s the diference?

    At the end of the day, you’ve still got some millionaire 1%er trying to pluck the 99%ers for whatever they’ve got left.

    I must admit that Mittenz keeps letting his utter disdain and contempt for the American people shine through his clumsy and ineffectual political posturing.

    O’mama is just more careful about not getting in the face of the camel he’s riding, (but that doesn’t mean that he’s not thinking the same thing.)

    • Bill Brugger says:

      Just like Bush Gore didn’t make any difference.
      Two wars 9-11 global warming Supreme Court and other judge appointments. Just because one guy is not perfect doesn’t mean there is no difference.

  6. orchidcup says:

    Republicans are famous for offering candidates that obviously reached the pinnacle of business success with the assistance of daddy’s money and political connections.

    Their fame is further enhanced when they start lecturing hard working people (that started with nothing) about the virtues of hard work and conservative values.

    It is easy to insult people that work hard every day to keep their heads above water.

    These candidates fail to acknowledge that they have always had the benefit of taking a fat welfare check from daddy.

    The hypocrisy of the Republican elitist privileged class is apparent and nauseating.

    Willard Romoney can kiss my conservative ass.

  7. orchidcup says:

    I would be pleased to take Willard Romoney out of the rarified atmosphere of privileged wealth and dress him in coveralls and give him a hardhat and a lunchbox with a bologna sandwich and a candy bar and put him to work on a drilling rig as a roughneck that works 12 hours a day 7 days a week in the heat, cold, and driving rain while his family waits for him to return home with a hard-earned paycheck.

    Poor little Willard Romoney might actually get a blister on his finger.

    The last thing a roughneck needs is a lecture from Willard Romoney about hard work and paying taxes to support needy corporations that take welfare from the government and complain about paying taxes.

    Willard Romoney knows nothing about hard work.

  8. Former Republican says:

    Sorry, Romney is a complete tool.

    • Mike Lu says:

      True, but the other guy is a complete fool. We get to pick between a turd sammich and a Douchebag….. Love American politics and the two party system.

  9. NewformatSux says:

    Any comment on Eric Holder saying due process is different from judicial process, and since Obama thought about who he was killing, that’s due process?

    • tcc3 says:

      Changing the subject wont help Romney.

      Romneys charge is that Obama has had a weak and apologetic foreign policy. If “due process” drone death from above is weakness, I shudder to think what Romneys going to do.

      And that’s the basic issue: As much as Obama is pilloried for being a leftist radical, most of his faults are right wing. Things that Bush started, things that McCain vowed to continue, and things that Romney promises to double down on.

      I don’t like a lot of what Obama has done. What he has done right Romney promises to undo. What he has done wrong Romney promises to continue or increase.

      Thats not a good choice, but its not a hard one.

      • NewformatSux says:

        >Changing the subject wont help Romney.

        It sure helps Obama. This video is from 6 months ago, and he leaked it to distract people from his claims that a video caused his ambassador to get killed in an attack with RPGs and mortars. Also going unnoticed is the biggest loss of aircraft since Vietnam.

  10. tj says:

    Romney got so much wrong but I think it was mostly deliberate to scare the crap out of potential donors.

    His message to them was: “Obama’s been spotted 47% of the electorate, so I need all the money you can spare to get me at least 51% out of the other 53%”

    Of course that’s pure BS and many among that 47% are Republicans.

    So either he’s out of touch/not too bright or he’s just a liar.

  11. NewformatSux says:

    So Romney described Obama’s worldview very well. Obama campaign expressed the same sentiment here:

    http://barackobama.com/life-of-julia/

  12. NewformatSux says:

    Note to media, you can’t declare that Romney’s campaign has died with his latest gaffe, if you said that during his last gaffe.

    • orchidcup says:

      The way it is going, Romoney may die a thousand deaths before the voters get to the polls.

      I am relieved to know what Romoney really thinks about hard working people that are freeloaders and dependent on the government.

      Romoney did forget to mention that corporations are dependent on the government for welfare and tax cuts and other preferential treatment from legislators.

  13. bobbo, we think with words, and flower with ideas says:

    It just struck me this campaign is very similar to the Second BushtheRetard campaign IN THAT the voting public does have all the information it needs to make a real choice. Romoney while running the most secretive non-transparent campaign in history has shown us at the edges what this means: he has a sense of entitlement, is totally detached from the Public, and is running to benefit himself by benefiting those similarly situated.

    Trick is though–BushtheRetard got elected.

    Low information, science denying, values voters- – - – thank you. Are you stupid enough to do it again?

    • orchidcup says:

      Trick is though–BushtheRetard got elected.

      I am still baffled how Bush the Douche got elected TWICE.

      But then I am baffled about many things that go on in this country.

  14. NewformatSux says:

    How come media is quick to say that James Keefe and Breitbart is producing edited videos taken out of context, but no such clarifications here, and instead run the tape?

    How come Nixon was labelled a criminal and liar when he said 18 minutes were accidentally erased, but Mother Jones is believed when they say the recording was inadvertently stopped partway through, causing a gap of maybe 1-2 minutes? And how come they insisted it was the whole video and made no mention that it was edited?

    • orchidcup says:

      Edited or not, partial or not, we all got to hear what Willard Romoney REALLY thinks.

      He thinks if you are not super wealthy and supported by a trust fund that takes advantage of tax shelters and tax-free investments you are a freeloading lazy Democrat zombie that depends on the government for handouts.

      Failing to mention, of course, that corporations depend on the government for favorable legislation and other freebies that help “grow business and create jobs.”

      A typical corporate aristocrat that talks out of both sides of his mouth.

      Now if the Republicans can get those lazy freeloading Latinos and dumbass Afro-Americans (n***ers) to vote for Willard The Wizard of Wall Street, the election is in the bag.

      • NewformatSux says:

        No, corporations don’t create jobs, small businesses do. These guys frequently do not register as C-Corps, but instead as S-Corps and pay personal income taxes on the business income.

        • orchidcup says:

          Small businesses create jobs. What a revelation.

          What makes you think Willard The Wizard of Wall Street will favor small business over BIG business? Was it something he said?

          Maybe the freeloading small business owners like me that are dependent on the government for handouts that hire lazy freeloading Latinos and dumbass African-American Democrats won’t even appear on his radar?

          Oh, that’s right. Willard is a Republican and Republicans support small businesses on Main Street.

          Horseshit.

          • NewformatSux says:

            Because his announced plans say exactly that. Will he give extra favors to big businesses? Probably, though he is still claiming to be against amnesty.
            However, he is in favor of lowering the top income tax rate to 25% which is a cut in taxes for small to medium sized businesses. he is also in favor of cutting the capital gains tax, eliminating it for income under $250,000. These lower taxes, means more money available to be invested by these small businesses, which have to take money out of holdings so the partners can pay their taxes. C-corps can raise the money by leveraging debt.

  15. NewformatSux says:

    There are many worse videos this week for Obama, but somehow Mitt has the worst week? Which is worse, what Mitt said or
    Stephanie Cutter saying a movie trailer caused an ambassador to be killed?

    Obama saying he wants redistribution?

    Obama saying he doesn’t know how much is the national debt?

  16. deowll says:

    So how many people think that lowering Fed Gov taxes is an issue that will draw voters who pay no FG taxes?

    How many people think that once people get paid to stay home while somebody picks up their bills they will take kindly to having the money cut off?

    While I have as yet no collected my first SS paycheck I paid in for 40 years and by gum I expect to collect something! I do feel entitled!

    I think the percentage of people whose votes have been bought using tax revenues and borrowed money is rather smaller than Romney states because some of us have the wit to know that our national credit is already running out and the Fed is having to eat a large part of our long term bonds or the FG would have to pay vastly higher rates of return.

    You pretty much need to be brain dead to think you will get paid back in ten years with an uninflated currency. Buying a 10 year FG bond at current interest rates is throwing money away.

    I sure do wish I had enough money to invest it outside of the US.

    • NewformatSux says:

      Romney conflated three different things: Obama’s 47% in polls, 47% paying no federal income taxes, and people who are on welfare or other benefits like social security disability, as well as people receiving Social Security.

  17. Supreme Ultrahuman (I see the comment system is still designed for retards.) says:

    Hmmmm, I read about this before the Obama media went crazy. At the time I thought “so? That’s like saying the sky is blue. Just a basic fact. What’s the fuss?”

  18. So what says:

    “Mitt Romney: Trying His Darnedest To Lose The Election”

    Seems to be working.

  19. tomdennis says:

    Everyone that paid no taxes last year are part of the 47 %.

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