But sometimes an apocalypse is required for the world to get in line with your fantasies. Which at least partially explains why so many apocalyptic tales these days seem to be driven by such heavy doses of wishful thinking. Take the sugary, armageddon-flavored nuggets of NBC’s new doomsday hit Revolution. Unlike the cautionary tales scripted by futuristic visionaries like George Orwell or JG Ballard, Revolution feels like a child’s clumsily drawn daydream, one that lands halfway between Dungeons and Dragons and Real Simple magazine.
It’s hard not to feel a rush of yearning for this simple if violent existence. The characters’ goals are concrete and simple: hit the road in search of help or information; subvert your malevolent overlords — local, observable foes, as opposed to the faceless, splintered, omnipresent enemies we increasingly protest; hide your firearms and your American flags from evil outside forces.

The bottom line is we, as a country, a society, and a people, are so fucked up that wiping it all out and starting over has become a hoped for fantasy. Too hard to fix, so time to start over.

  1. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    This could have been the American Century…Unleash the power of the people in a free market…where folks like Steve Jobs could appear and flourish…

    Exploit our oil and gas, which would weaken Iran…and all the radical ME regimes…depriving them of cash…and making America so competitive reams of buisness would have returned…

    Roll Back regulation to the Clinton era…being Democrats think that the apex….and the economy would boom.

    But alas, we have a dickhead running the show, who wants to undo the damage he causes via regulation and taxation, by printing dollars….stimulate an already over stimulated economy that is comatose from all the big government solutions.

    The Moron Vote put him over the top…and they will be among the first to feel the pain of any deep recession…when all the freebies dry up…and everyone who still has a job, is too scared to be charitable.

    • What? The moth is always drawn to the flame? says:

      You have a hard-on for Jobs.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        Jobs illustrates how wrong socialism is…if Obama had his way then, his garage would have been nationalized and the wealth distributed to those without garages…

        Prevent Jobs from making his first apple computer…which would result in thousands of people NOT becoming millionaires…some billionaires….hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs from Truckers, Construction workers and sales people never created.

        It wouldn’t matter how many roads and bridges were in Job’s home town, the apple computer would never have been built….the wealth it created never would have appeared.

    • stormtrooper 651 says:

      an irreversible downward spiral, as the dependent and clueless majority grow the more blame will need to be placed on shrinking taxable minorities who will be looted and erased. Then with motivation and trust gone the govt will need to dictate the ever failing economy, but by then the US will have a slavish military which will willingly turn against its own and other people.
      or maybe some comic book super hero will come and fix it all for you.

    • Trex says:

      Who is to say that a SHTF scenario can’t happen in the US. The Oligarchs own everything (including the Govt) and want MORE MORE MORE.

      There is a growing SHTF army in the US and elsewhere. Stocking their cellars with Beans and Bullets. (SHTF = [when] shit hits the fan).

      Read the INTRODUCTION at this link.
      This guy is a kinda celebrity to the SHTF movement from telling his story about surviving in Bosnia in the 90s when the SHTF there.

      “I am from Balkan region, and as some of you may know it was hell here from 92-
      95, anyway, for 1 whole year i lived and survived in a city of 50 000- 60 000
      residents WITHOUT: electricity, fuel,running water,real food distribution, or
      distribution of any goods, or any kind of organized law or government. “

      • Trex says:

        BTW, I am not a SHTF nutjob. Just bringing your attention to these wackos since you may live next door to one and not even know it.

  2. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Therefore Uncle Dave, your premise is incorrect…I could have fixed this economy…anyone with common sense could, anyone who knows American history…

    But that is all racist, isn’t it?

  3. Captain Obvious says:

    Alfie and Uncle Dave agree.

    You live in the richest country in the history of the world and you’re whining like moronic teenage emos. You both need to be bitch slapped up the side of the head and grow up.

    • Uncle Dave says:

      You read too much into what I said. I was paraphrasing the article, not agreeing with it.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      I love Freedom, I mourn because a principled conservative like Ron Paul, was seen by the majority as a nut.

      When in fact, he is an American. The sort that made this country great.

      Unleash the individual, and the collective will be run over like a stampede….

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      And you must be evil to love what America does today…back Islamic radicals in the ME, drones that kill Americans without trial…a runaway Fed doing who knows what.

      No, this is a debtor country living on fiat money, whose leaders actually profess to be “leading from behind” as though that isn’t a cowardly act.

  4. McCullough says:

    Apocalyptic movies and television have been around since the 50’s. It’s just a different type horror film. Remember The Day the Earth Stood Still, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Omega Man, The Last Man on Earth, On the Beach, War of the Worlds, When Worlds Collide.

    I love this stuff. Except for Revolution….it sucks.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      I do too. Walking Dead, stupid premise, great show nonetheless.

      • jpfitz says:

        Was there a blue moon recently? I find myself in agreement with you TEAD. I’m a Walking Dead watcher also. Revolution, I haven’t tried, and from the comments here I have no plans to. To tell you the truth I don’t watch much network tele.

        Off topic, talking about network programs on the tele, try Justified on FX.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          Revolution is OK, once you get over the unbelievable “electricity can be blocked world wide.”

          Justified is excellent, Hell on Wheel good also, once you get over “what’ could be exciting or interesting in a western rail road town.” Lots actually.

          Europe is rebelling against austerity, their economies in free fall…comatose from stimulus then austerity and back again.

          They should roll back the various regulations preventing growth…growing out of economic pain is the most efficient, least painful way of fixing the world’s economy…but the nutters won’t relax environmental etc rules to let it happen.

          They don’t want the planet to warm up half a degree in 2525! That prediction brought to you by those who can’t reliably predict the weather day to day.

  5. Cap'nKangaroo says:

    This is why we need a real space program that reaches for the stars!

    All these daydreamers for a simpler, more rugged life could be colonizing new worlds. They would have a chance to start over, anew, and build a civilization to believe in.

    And get them the F**k Out of Here so they rest of us can get on with life, without having to listen to them bitch and moan how everything would be so much better if they were in charge.

    • Don't be scared says:

      Bummer. Can’t hitch a ride on Hale-Bopp like the Heaven’s Gate folks did in 1997. It won’t be back until 4385.

    • ReadyKilowatt says:

      I remember seeing a blimp over Los Angles with that message playing once.

      Something about getting a free Nexus 6 too!

      Must have been a Google thing.

  6. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    McCullough says:
    12/1/2012 at 9:35 pm

    Apocalyptic movies and television have been around since the 50′s. /// Well…. the bible and most creation myths end with destruction. I think current physics says we will end with ice. A slight variation: escapist fiction a la Robinson Crusoe and such.


    Uncle Dave says:
    12/1/2012 at 9:30 pm

    You read too much into what I said. I was paraphrasing the article, not agreeing with it. //// I don’t think so. Re read what you wrote yourself: “The bottom line is we, as a country, a society, and a people, are so fucked up that wiping it all out and starting over has become a hoped for fantasy. Too hard to fix, so time to start over.” //// We are dealing with movies/tv/POP CULTURE—which has always been a diversion to put the peeples to sleep so the overlords of commerce can run away with the profits.

    Same as it always was.

    Sleep soundly.

  7. The0ne says:

    Again, my extreme republican boss and his family, plus extensions, are so worry about Obama winning they are expecting an apocalypse. This is no joke. They’ve been buying guns and stock piling ammo. Hell, he’s even showed me and ask why I ain’t doing the same.

    There is something wrong with these people. Reality is so far gone from their view. I just hope something doesn’t snap and one of them go postal. Add to that we’re selling gun cases like mad. Some people are just fcked up.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      It couldn’t be you who is out of step with history


      What happened in every country in history that printed money like Obama is doing through the Fed….

      No, the alternate reality is so much better, they must be nut jobs. They believe history repeats itself when the same factors exist…

      Of course, only nut jobs expect the same results from doing the same thing.

      You clearly are right about them.

    • deegee says:

      Theone >> “There is something wrong with these people. Reality is so far gone from their view.”

      As with all groups of people, the “prep’ers” cover a wide range of thought, from those who believe that things are not getting better and the world is heading towards depression/hyperinflation times, to those who believe that aliens/solar EMPs/caldera explosions are going to wipe out the world.

      Those who fall into the former category are imho not crazy as you state. Have you watched the news lately? Have you seen what is going on in the EU as one example?
      If you believe that won’t happen to the USA, with the government taking all of the money from the poor taxpayers et al to give it to the rich bankers et al, then you are the one who is far from reality.

    • The0ne says:

      LMAO, this is why I love coming to DU. You guys are just as extreme as my boss. I should look at Europe? Hell, I’ve been using Europe, especially France, in my arguments before our recession. I have family there. You sheep seem to follow what is currently available for you to digest.

      I think that is a good thing though because if you knew what was going on in Africa, Mexico and the other countries that aren’t in the mainstream news you really stock up on guns 🙂

      LMAO, have a great day.

  8. Jim says:

    You all realize that the doomsdayers are carry-overs from the Y2K bullcrap. They lost (or made) huge amounts of money and prestige, and so they continue to try to make some apocalypse happen to justify their existence.

    In some cynical section of myself, it would be nice if all the idiots killed themselves at once, just to lessen the din. However, compassion suggests it’s better to try to teach them not to be as stupid rather than just excise them.

    I think most people don’t realize that our economy changed radically in the past 30-40 years, and that many of these people were doing non-thinking, dead-end jobs that don’t exist any more. Instead of rebuilding themselves and learning new things they waste their time trying to revert the country to some historical oddity, in the hopes they will become relevant again.

    It’s largely childishness and laziness, encapsulated in moronity.

  9. Hyph3n says:

    I have noticed that financial collapse is the libertarian’s rapture… a giant “I told you so” to the world.

  10. B. Dog says:

    The Roman Empire took centuries to collapse. Grapes, banquets and orgies are on my list, with looting for desert.

    • jpfitz says:

      I like your outlook, some have a head start and it’s going on in Sin City.

  11. ReadyKilowatt says:

    We (at least the Euro-Asians amongst us) are the survivors of the dark age plagues. Christians were raised on Revelations (at least when we were teenagers). We all grew up thinking Ivan was going to push the big red commie nuclear button and wipe us all off the face of the Earth… and that we’d be the winners because Jesus loves us more.

    But now we’ve cured the plague, converted to politics as our religion and the Russians are the butt of an old joke (in Soviet Russia…).

    There’s always a group of people who would like to fantasize about if/when life as we know it comes to an end. They all think they’ll be the exception and be one of the strong survivors. The reality is most of them wouldn’t be willing to do anything near what all the bad guys who survive will do without question (namely, kill them in cold blood and take their stuff).

    And don’t think all that time spent learning how to fly fish will come in handy either. Once the state collapses there won’t be anyone to restock the lakes and rivers, and with the expected massive increase in harvesting fish there won’t be anywhere near enough to go around, so now you’re back to killing and stealing (and that’s if Rats, water, bugs or dogs don’t get into your now-rotting food stores).

    My SHTF plan is to do whatever I can to keep the shit away from the fan to begin with. If that fails, massive amounts of alcohol will numb the pain until the trucks come by to take me to the FEMA camp. Maybe there will be a black market!

  12. jbenson2 says:

    Uncle Dave’s response to his original posting:” I was paraphrasing the article, not agreeing with it.”

    Turn on the bull shit meter.

    Uncle Dave is a sick son-of-a-bitch who needs to be locked up and then throw away the key.

  13. jpfitz says:

    “The bottom line is we, as a country, a society, and a people, are so fucked up that wiping it all out and starting over has become a hoped for fantasy. Too hard to fix, so time to start over.”

    Holy bat shit. Anyone who read the article would understand Uncle Dave was commenting with sarcasm directed at the preppers and other sheep watching these NEW end of society movies or programs. Jbenson, your the one who should have the BS meter as your avatar.

  14. Uncle Patso says:

    The wish-fulfillment fantasies inherent inmost of today’s apocalyptic tales are echoed in so many of the comments here, yearning for an Ayn Rand-ish world. Rand is the biggest fantasist I’ve ever read, and so many have swallowed her fantasies whole. All these fantasies lack is the secret high station of the protagonist common to the adolescent Deus ex machina dream: “Luke, your father was a Jedi Knight,” “Yer a wizard, Harry,” etc.

    RTFA to see what I mean. It’s not long and it’s fairly entertaining.

  15. u2flyplane says:

    everyone sing along……

    It’s the end of the world as we know it.
    It’s the end of the world as we know it.
    And I feel fine…..

  16. sargasso_c says:

    There is a word for ‘delight in foretelling misfortune’ which isn’t quite schadenfreude. The people who laugh at a building that collapses just after they left it. Who delight in sharing tales of near death experiences with nervous hospital patients. Having young children present in the hospital theatre during birth. Cultivating and luxuriating in the macabre and delivery of woe. You all know who you are!

  17. deowll says:

    Some trends to be noted by the prudent.

    Gun sales are booming.

    The price of gold is climbing.

    Preppers are going main stream.

    Small and not so small business people are asking themselves how the bleep am I supposed to survive what the government is doing to me?

    A lot of people now have food stashes and a lot people are reporting having had to dip into those stashes. It looks like having a major stash of food is very reasonable and prudent.

    Oakland and some other locations I could name are good places to have a loaded gun handy in your home because the cops may be a while showing up and the criminals know it.

    • deegee says:

      Many people are going back to living the way it was decades ago.

      A large number of so-called “prep’ers” simply do the same things that our grandparents did (food stocks of the essentials, canning and preserves, hunting, self-reliance) because the distance between the wealthy and poor was so great.
      We all watch the news. The distance between the wealthy and poor is becoming greater. The “middle class” is disappearing, the “american dream” is now a fantasy.
      Politicians increase taxation and state that “you aren’t poor, because you own a refrigerator!”.
      So why is there so much scoffing at those living by similar means as our grandparents?

  18. msbpodcast says:

    Its been used before countless times in history.

    The last time it was used in the English speaking world* is since Charles II placed control of the money supply in private hands with the English Free Coinage Act of 1666.

    If you’re suffering and your bank isn’t, maybe it shouldn’t be a bank at all.

    The reason we’re attempting to shore up the banks at all is middle class guilt.

    The banks made bad loans.

    It should be the banks’ problems.

    Not some citizen’s who doesn’t have a choice.

    If JP Morgan Chase or Bank of America or Barclays or HSBC are having a hard time living with the loans they made, I really don’t see why I should give a shit.

    Hit reset, flush the dead and start over.

    *There are lots of examples of the privatization scheme failing. Its called shit happening, in Iberia (the holy roman empire was founded and then foundered on debt,) in Holland, in Germany (after WW I,) in France (with periodic devaluation of the Franc,) in Zimbabwe (with the collapse of the zDollar.)

  19. Mr Diesel says:

    Food stockpiles? It’s called a pantry dumbasses. I wonder how many people know how to kill and clean an animal or fish or even plant a seed and cultivate a plant (other than weed).

    I hope for the Walking Dead almost every day I see Obomba make a speech.

  20. Rightous Indignation says:

    The bottom line is we, as a country, a society, and a people, are so fucked up that wiping it all out and starting over has become a hoped for fantasy. Too hard to fix, so time to start over.

    Not quite right. I don’t think anyone is actually hoping for an apocalypse. Rather, a growing number of people do seem to see one unavoidably coming (usually religious nuts and/or poor people which seem to go hand in hand). Any post apocalyptic fantasy only begins where reality seems to be leading us. And any fantasizing about it is about all anyone outside the power rings of their government can do.

    And who can blame these apocalyptic “visionaries” either?! When the social elite seem to be on an ever increasing greed kick and with governments either unable or unwilling to do their job(s), it’s pretty easy to be pessimistic if not outright angry. And it’s that anger that I think you may be confusing for a hopeful apocalypse. More likely, it’s a hopeful REVOLUTION!

    But throw in the terrible economies and wars and such and it all looks pretty damned bad. And who’s to say that the world isn’t already IN an apocalypse either?!

  21. neptune5 says:

    I am hoping for an apocalypse. Let’s get on with it.

  22. NiburuPLEASE_NO!! says:

    While it provides more than enough reasons to be very concerned, I sincerely hope that this does NOT HAPPEN….

    Check out this video called” December 21, 2012 – Two Suns in the Sky”
    on YouTube:


  23. The Monster's Lawyer says:

    The world’s been ending since the beginning of time.
    We’re all gonna die too.

  24. Charles says:

    Revolution sounds like a ( liberul ) idea or osama’s wet dream!

    Have a nice day.

  25. Australia Flavored says:

    I’m betting on some kind of vicious, mutated, Hybrid strand of teeth-nashing Rabies with Ebola-like tendencies that drip with the juices of liquified organs from every oriface, sweeps from the Cities outwards.. Escape routes, fortified shelters, accessibility to food, medical supplies, clean water, transportation, strategies for attack/defense/hold positions and with as much creativity as you wish.. Weapons.


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