1. jbenson2 says:

    How many gang members were interviewed for the survey?

    Seems like most of the gun deaths in cities with strict gun laws like Chicago are caused by gangs (MS-13, Crips, Bloods, Lowriders, and other young upstanding members of the community).

    • Mayor Bloomburger says:

      What interaction have you had with gang-members that makes you an expert? I’ve had tons of experience with people in gangs and have never needed a gun …. if you don’t talk to them, they’ll pretty much all leave you alone. Don’t wear expensive clothes around them and for gods-sake get in shape and stand up straight – if you’re not into drugs or guns and you don’t bring expensive stuff into their neighborhoods you have nothing that they want.

      They don’t know you, they don’t care about you. They are BANGING … if you’re not connected, they have a code and will 99.99% of the time leave you alone. The minute that they know you’re packing a gun and that you’ll use it, you’re connected and you’re no longer a victim. Only gun idiots talk about gang-bangers like the guy posting above.

      • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

        Like a shark in the water huh?

        You might be 100% correct===but for all the wrong reasons. Rather sublime.

  2. jbenson2 says:

    With newspapers like the Journal News, the Star-Ledger, the Bangor Daily News publicizing the names and addresses of concealed handgun permit holders, is it any wonder the survey shows a decline?

  3. spsffan says:

    Yes. Just like the number of high school kids who have used drugs, you can’t get reliable survey results on stuff like this. People will lie to avoid being singled out or punished or turned over the the “authorities”.

    But, I’m pretty sure that, in fact, the percentage of households without guns has in fact declined, overall. But that doesn’t mean that the number of households with guns has fallen much, just that there are more households (with fewer people in each) than before. And, like model trains, those with guns tend to acquire more of them as time goes on.

    Still, I guess this is good news for your friendly neighborhood murderous thug. 🙂

  4. John says:

    Well…. I guess we have no problem then. Will this somehow make morons like D Feinstein and Piers Moran finally just shut the fuck up?

    In your dreams maybe.

  5. dusanmal says:

    One teeny-itsy-bitsy problem there: try to purchase a gun or ammo. See the availability and waiting times… Try to get a permit in a bureaucratic state (say, NY – my personal experience). There are so many application that typical waiting times have risen there from 3 months to a year over just last two years…
    It is survey methodology that I’d question. And willingness of people to admit possessing a gun in current Governmental environment.
    Just another attempt to “mold” public opinion by “science” and change perception of what is “normal”. Progressive BS.

  6. super77 says:

    Say what? I walked into a Bass Pro Shop in California a few weeks ago and the 30+ feet of glass cases for handguns was virtually empty. The acrylic stands were there but the guns weren’t. I doubt it’s just a couple of guys that cleaned them out.

    Smells like BS to me.

  7. Hmeyers says:

    Preoccupation with guns is a lefty sheep thing.

    A lefty non-sheep would not be distracted by emotion and focus on root causes:
    1. The criminal using a gun, the problem is a criminal.
    2. The 5-year child that gets access to a gun, the problem is the idiot parent.
    3. There were several chances for the mental health system to flag the Batman shooter, the Connecticut one and the Virginia Tech one.

    Since there will always be sheep, there will always be lefty and righty sheep … so know I don’t expect sheepism to change.

    Sheepism is just people who can’t connect dots and formulate a constructive opinion.

  8. ECA says:

    So,
    WHO HERE has enough money to spend on a good GUN??
    Start at $500 and go up fast..

    WHO here has enough money to be ABLE TO AFFORD the ammo..??

    In the 70’s you could pack up 1000 rounds of .22 ammo and spend a DAY shooting..Fairly CHEAP..

    NOW rifle ammo is around $1 per shot. Even pistol ammo, is BAD..

    NOW for the fun part..
    HOW MANY PARENTS have time to take a kid out and TRAIN them how to use a GUN??

    • So what says:

      Me, I purchased two AR’s at a gun show in Columbia a few weeks ago. Prior to that a Weatherby Vanguard in 300 win mag, stainless steel. The Weatherby was for me the AR’s were to sell at a stupidly higher price when the nutballs really start screaming.

  9. pete07 says:

    It means it’s mainly the paranoid NRA crazies that are hoarding all the guns because they believe the evil black helicopters will soon be circling over head. We’ll end up with a small population of rightwing gun nuts with huge military arsenals of guns and bullets, holing up in their bunkers. And every once in a while, one of these hoarders is going to snap, and go on a shooting spree. Welcome to America!

  10. WmDE says:

    I wonder where all of the guns went.

  11. jbenson2 says:

    Gun rights advocates: military coordination with laser focus
    Gun control advocates: too many head chefs in the kitchen

    The pro-gun rights voice is united and strong. Of the top influencers on the pro-gun rights side, the majority of the most prominent voices are from the NRA. The pro-gun control voice is split between Obama and several gun control advocacy groups which dilutes the message.

    It’s a Marathon, not a sprint. The NRA has the stamina to out-run the pro-gun control movement. They are persistent, un-yielding and gaining influence.

    The pro-gun rights voice continues to gain influence while the pro-gun control voice has tapered in recent weeks. Momentum has shifted and the gun control debate is becoming a platform benefiting gun rights advocates.

  12. Boner says:

    It’s still damned interesting to me that no one seems able or willing to point out just what type of guns are used in all this violent killing we keep hearing about. According to another statistic I recently heard (or was reminded of), more than 90-percent of all violent gun deaths involve hand guns. Not just any hand gun either but CHEAP hand guns! So what’s the liberal solution? You got it: ban certain kinds of rifles!

    Of course, I’m sure someone will want to argue the statistics and say the numbers are wrong or something. Never mind something we all know is true – that violent crimes where a “gun” is used almost always involve a (cheap foreign made) hand gun.

    It’s thinking like that that has me wondering how out leaders and other so called “experts” weren’t able to screw up the economy up any sooner either!

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Can’t juggle TWO BALLS at once huh?

      Most murders are done with hand guns. Inner city violence, gangs, suicides etc. 10 people a day 1-2 at a time is the status quo==no one notices except those dealing with this chronic misery.

      But “mass murders” are undertaken with semi-automatic assault rifles with extended clips. 20-30 at one time. This captures the attention of the Masses.

      See the difference?

  13. Ken says:

    The article doesn’t say that there’s a steady decline of homes with guns. It says that the share of homes with guns has decreased. Since the # of households in the US has increased since the 70’s, I’d like to know if the # of households with guns has remained relatively stable, gone down, or has even gone up and just not in proportion to the growth of the number of households.

    Of course, that would be asking too much of the OP to actually provide a critical analysis.

    • Boner says:

      Me too!

      It’s not like there was a recent housing crisis or anything either. Right?!

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Ken—you sound like an early Earth Denier.

      You demand proof of intermediate species and when that proof is provided you point to two more intermediate gaps and demand proof of that as well.

      Of the alternatives you have spied out===WTF difference does it make??? I’ll bet you can’t even verbalize that.

      “The % of homes with guns is DECLINING!!!” “♫ Magic is alive, God is afoot… magic loves the hungry….”

      I would ASSUME that the absolute number of homes with guns has increased. Doesn’t change a thing does it?

      “♫Police arrested magic And magic went with them For magic loves the hungry…”

      What does it all mean? Who knows….. its a puzzler.

      • Boner says:

        Sounds like someone is off his meds again, tip toe through the tulips… la, la, la, la, la, la, la…

  14. notatall says:

    Gee, the media and fedgov treat legal gun owners the same way it treats smokers and divorced fathers and all of a sudden people are reluctant to admit to a stranger on the phone that they own firearms.

    You thought this “story” you posted would pass the smell test…how…?

  15. Smoke an Mirrors says:

    Not to get too off topic, but wasn’t that vehicle used in a Dr. Pepper commercial?

  16. Hill Billy says:

    Here is a video regarding gun control that some of you may like to keep up to date on – new TODAY (3/11/13):

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=DI2YQfVhZ9U&list=PLmfHXd2JV9gUVcb2rwKy4lHzoFW2aWNvx&index=1

    …And no! I’m not affiliated with them either.

    • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

      “Both sides distort the truth…” //// Wow? really? Who’d a thunk that?

      right at the start–narrator says gun rights are to protect the people against “the” government. Raise your hand==> who thinks THAT is true?

      And even if true==how afraid should the gov be of “armed” citizenry? Huh??? Tell me that one.

      Base line stupidity.

      • John says:

        That’s 100 Million armed citizens. And yes the government is concerned. And you know they are because they are arming up in huge way.

        That’s 100 Million. Think about it.

        Then think about 10 years in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Basically cave dwellers.

        • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

          That’s 100 Million armed citizens. And yes the government is concerned. /// Concerned? Yes, but about what?? Can you be more specific? Do you think the 101 Airborn, or Seal Team Six cares about an armed America??

          And you know they are because they are arming up in huge way. /// Huh? How so?? Seems to me the USA Armed Forces have been armed from the start>>>its right in their name for Christ sakes. I’ll bet you can’t even name or connect the next dot. Prove me wrong.

          That’s 100 Million. Think about it. /// Ok………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… other than, thats a lot of guns…… I got nothing. What thoughts do you arrive at?

          Then think about 10 years in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Basically cave dwellers. //// Ok thats a dot. Now connect it to anything relevant……………………………………I’ll wait.

          • Anonymous says:

            Are you really this disconnected? Or are you just not paying attention?

            Wow, it really must be some kind of Liberal disease.

          • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

            I SAID: prove me wrong. Baying like a neutered cow does not even offer an argument.

            Make an argument.

            Prove me wrong.

            Idiot.

          • Boner says:

            You prove yourself wrong BOOB. You didn’t even watch the video!

      • dadeo says:

        A question for bobbo – Should the govt fear the people, or the people fear the govt? As it is now the people – at least half – are scared shirtless of their govt and trust them not.

  17. John says:

    “Huh? How so?? Seems to me the USA Armed Forces have been armed from the start”

    Idiot, educate thyself.

    http://forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/

    • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

      That is a fun headline. What do you think it MEANS?

      sounds like a waste of money of some sort. Now, really, I mean REALLY===who is afraid of the Fat F*cks from the Airport having large ammo belts around their expansive guts?

      The Forbes article is so devoid of information, I wonder what Psych Ops is really going on, you know—in the dark recesses of some super secret cabal of government nannys.

      bubblblblblblbleee.

      Post an article, and the article reveals nothing that makes any sense. Rather does sum everything up.

      P -a -r-a-n-o-i-a. Silly Rabbits.

      Know what I mean?

    • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

      you might be full of Sh*t!

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp

      Yeap. Just plain full of it……aka…..easily lead.

      Ever think about taking that ring out of your nose?

      • John says:

        It sounds like you are backpedaling because you are ill-informed. You can take snopes and shove it up your ass.

        This story is fact. And the fact that you don’t understand it, concerns me not. I don’t care about you or people like you. I will concentrate on people who have their eyes and ears open, not their head in the sand and their ass in the air.

        • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

          Hmmm…. you sound like a Proud American….not letting facts stand in your way.

          BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

          I only skimmed real fast. What did Forbes say: “The DHS was “planning” to buy that much ammo.” Unnamed sources. No link.

          You think that shit is ice cream don’t you.

          What a dope. Proud to be so ignorant.

          But seriously folks–how do you “know” this news item is “true.”

          How???? I’d really like to know.

          Its hard to know what the truth is—Know what I mean?

        • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

          https://marketplace.fedbid.com/fbweb/fbobuyDetails.do?token===wBKxmaVGYR9Kcq5Ajq%2BRH6QAAAAAHeAAgAgTFCGg/FzzqQbJAAyVXBA0Or

          DHS order for 240,000 rounds. Current time frame. Not to say there isn’t another order out there for 50 times their annual use rate—although that statistic is strikingly large as well.

          interesting that the Forbes article called its own source “outre” which means not believeable/bizarre. Why do you think they posted an unbelievable/bizarre story anyway??

          Seeing who would buy it hook line and sinker??? They wouldn’t disrespect their readership so absolutely would they?

          THAT might be something you are informed about? Pray tell?

  18. LibertyLover says:

    How many refuse to answer?

    I always say, “None of your business,” when asked by someone who has no business knowing.

    I’d be willing to bet a non-trivial percentage of gun owners do the same thing.

    Do they count them as positive or negative answers?

    • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

      They are skipped over as “non-responsive.”

      You know, like a booger on a finger. Your kind of thing.

  19. jim g says:

    Of course there are way fewer homes without guns— there are also way MORE homes with no one living in them. Something like 80 empty homes per homeless person….

    • jim g says:

      edit: way more homes without guns

      • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

        Hey–no need, we all know where you are coming from: all those empty homes not responding to the survey. Empty means empty. No guns or anything else.

        Makes sense. Thanks for sharing.

  20. Dallas says:

    I bet there are more guns in homes that had guns! Thanks to two term President Obama, the loons are going crazy buying them.

    • orchidcup says:

      Hey, I just bought a pump-action shotgun because Joe Biden told me to.

      I actually get a thrill from pumping 5 one-ounce slugs into an imaginary bad guy at the shooting range.

      I feel safe when I have a shotgun loaded and waiting under the bed.

      I can’t wait to get a chance to use it on a real bad guy.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        Personally, I keep sex toys under the bed for me and the Mrs. No wonder white Republicans are dying off, they don’t know how to breed anymore.

        • msbpodcast says:

          Thank you for seeing what’s right in front of your face. 🙂

          I come from Québec where, in the 1960s, poor Québecois won a demographic war against the Anglos by out fucking them.

          Once that war was declared over, the birth rate plummeted and the gay male and female population skyrocketed. (We also threw the Catholic clergy out of our lives and, given the amount of buildings suddenly available for repurposing, turned quite a few churches into titty bars. :-))

          Once an imperative to bred is passed, people focus on amusement and profit.

          I fully expect that pattern to continue as we pass from one bunch of less fortunate sons to the next.

          • Anglo from Quebec says:

            Of course it could have been that more and 1/2 a million Anglos left over the next 20 years to find work or with their job because of racist attitudes towards the English speaking minority.

            Pastagate continues….

          • JT Hut says:

            Even the Bank of Montreal moved its headquarters to Toronto

      • B. Dog says:

        I’m not buying that story. Slugs cost too much. A real orchidcup woulda used birdshot.

        • msbpodcast says:

          I can’t wait to get a chance to use it on a real bad guy.

          I’ll bet that a case of those came complimentary with the shotgun.

          They aren’t about to ever get used…

          He’s really firing using rock salt.

          • Jim says:

            you remember that moment from the bond movie “a view to a kill” as well?

      • Dallas says:

        I know what you mean. There is something exciting about a shotgun. I played HALO quite a bit.

        If I catch someone in my property, I have 10 ft walls around my property, concrete clips and lotta duct tape.

      • 0bummer says:

        I’d like some pump action with Dallas and Adam in a Jacuzzi as long as Ms. Micki is taking pics! In the Morning Dalla$$!

    • Mextli says:

      ” Thanks to two term President Obama, the loons are going crazy buying them.”

      He finally accomplished SOMETHING!

      • Dallas says:

        I suppose we measure accomplishment differently!

        Glad Obama gave you that last bit of excuse to get your wife to let you buy another gun and GI Joe

  21. gquaglia says:

    Like I’m going to tell some idiot on a phone survey that I have guns in my house.

    • Ah_Yea says:

      There you are! Finally someone on the blog got to the correct point.

      This survey isn’t about more guns in the home as much as ab out LESS trust in telling anyone you have a gun in the home!

      It’s so obvious.

      • Charliej says:

        All of you republicans distrusted the polls that showed Obama winning a second term. How did that work out for you? You distrust the polls, the American people are voting with their wallets. Not buying guns. I am from south Alabama. I know lots of people with twenty or more guns. I don’t know how more guns equals more protection. Mostly, it equals more mental disease. Let us say that you are walking down the street with all your guns. Your sworn enemy waits for you to pass, steps out behind you and shoots you in the back. You are dead, and all the guns did not help. Gun owners fantasize about defending their home. They are much more likely to be shot in a bar. Or, on the sidewalk. Or, in the home by a family member. More guns equals more gun deaths. Any other conclusion is wrong.

        • deegee says:

          I know lots of people with twenty or more guns. I don’t know how more guns equals more protection. Mostly, it equals more mental disease.

          huh?

          Just because a person likes firearms for what can be a variety of reasons (collector, historian, target and skeet, range shooting, police or military, etc.) that doesn’t mean that they have a mental disease.
          If simply owning a lot of some inanimate object means you have a mental disease, then stamp collectors, model railroad, car collectors, and on and on, all have a mental disease.

          People who are afraid of guns are the ones with a mental disease.
          Hoplophobic much?

          • Charliej says:

            Not afraid of firearms, learned to hunt at seven years with my grandfather. Learned more about guns in the Navy. I just have never felt the need for “protection”. To listen to the gun freaks tell it, you will be dead in twenty minutes if you leave home without your weapons. I made it to retirement without getting killed. As far as “mental disease”, listen to the rhetoric coming from the NRA and tell me those people are sane.

        • MikeN says:

          Most counties in America had either zero or one murder in a given year. If more guns is more death, then do you think all these counties are gun free?

      • deegee says:

        Any intelligent person knows that surveys are useless. They would do better by checking those states that have various types of licensing or registration, and using those numbers as a general per-capita value.

        Most gun owners will not tell someone calling on the phone that they have any guns.
        The first rule of OPSEC is that you don’t talk about OPSEC.

  22. Mr Diesel says:

    Funny, right after Obomba had his “I’m ignoring the 2nd amendment” speach in Dec I went out and bought 3 more guns at Walmart. Why? Walmart does not raise prices when the asshat speaks.

    I can afford to buy any gun I want and the ammo to go with it.

    Much like any survey I answer that it is none of your business bu if they were to call me and ask if I had guns I would just say no and lie through my teeth. None of their fucking business what I own. They don’t call and ask if you have a hammer or knife or car in your possession and they all killed more than so-called assault weapons last year.

    I just got a letter from the NRA yesterday and I can add a bunch of life members for a very good reduced price. Sounds like a plan to me.

  23. birddog says:

    I do not think the number of households with guns has declined, I think the admission of owning a gun has, with good reason. The same thing that is driving gun sales to all time highs is also the same reason people lie about owning one.

    • GunScientologist says:

      Sure that’s your right to believe what you want (Sec. of State Kerry said so 🙂 but research, other than above, could prove otherwise. Thinking something is so, may not make it so.

  24. Guyver says:

    If things are in a decline, then why bother creating more gun control to deny law-abiding citizens their exercise of their Constitutional rights?

    Why foster an environment that compels them to buy more than they normally would? Doesn’t pass the sniff test.

    At the end of the day, the perfecting of 3D printed guns will make this all a moot point.

  25. Pmitchell says:

    did any one bother to look at the reason ….. gun laws in the most populous cities and areas of this country make it impossible to own a gun . Gotta love how the liberal spin machine is trying to use this. My friend in New Jersey wants a gun to protect his family and it will take him over a year and a tangle of paperwork and bureaucracy just to get a shot gun and he said forget it it was not worth the trouble

    Every singe state with out exception that has passed a concealed carry has seen a decline in crime, but you stupid liberals fools still think your way is the best ” it just has not been implemented correctly yet “

    • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

      PM–study after study shows that the biggest single predictor of crime is the percentage of young males in the population.

      What do you think of that?

      • Pmitchell says:

        they sounds like a truth
        but is it being male or the fact that the American school system and value system is in the toilet for liberalism. No score soccer , no grade tests, no personal responsibility, No GOD or moral turpitude taught

        • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

          Lot of truth there too PM. You do maintain a shred of potential. I would only quibble with the labels you use…. but something very disasterous to our education system has been festering for all too long.

          Lack of rigor in the 3 R’s, lack of parental involvement…. whole lists are available. I don’t think it is “liberalism” other than it being a part of the problem, as is “conservatism”, as is religion==all of them not being any part of the 3 R’s.

          I’ll say again in fond memory of Dear Old Dad: “Your job is to learn in spite of your teachers.” He was no fun at all.

      • 0bummer says:

        State your sources? Proof or STFU.

    • GunScientologist says:

      Hold on their partner! Your assumption that gun concealment is correlated w/reduced crime. I’ve seen crime stats that show crime rates going down BEFORE concealment laws were ever considered. What about reading a bit more on the subject, please.
      Every time I’ve went camping it has rained, but that doesn’t mean my tent is the cause of storm fronts. If that were the case, I’d could make a fortune charging farmers, in the Mid-West, to set up camp on their land.

  26. bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

    Pmitchell doggedly demonstrating how much effort it takes to stay stupid says:
    3/12/2013 at 8:58 am

    they were blue this time around that makes them democrat. /// Ah–so you are combining other information with that presented. Did you include all the states relevant or did you cherry pick? I take you at face value that you did not cherry pick but rather used what states voted for Obama in 2012. Thats one definition even where the Governor and Legislatures of the state remain overwhelmingly Republican. It is all definitional.

    Fair enough. Problem with doing your own research is you can’t link to it to spot any obvious errors. Not winning for a forum discussion.

    bobbo 6 of the 10 worst offenders in the tax money grab are democratic so facts don’t lie but liberals do /// Well, who’s lying when you give a link to prove something and it proves the opposite except if we add in your secret information that can’t be confirmed?

    Hmmmmmm? Now–I have only said that YOU have been lied to, not that you are a liar, except to that degree you lazily pass on lies from others.

    Heh, heh. Is “guns don’t kill people” a lie or the truth?

    Just testing.

    • Pmitchell says:

      I do stand corrected I thought the Carolinas went Obama this round so with out it is still a 50/ 50 mix in the top 10

      • tcc3 says:

        You still cant count – its 6/10. Even thats if you count DOC as blue, which im not sure is appropriate since the currently Republican congress controls their budget.

        Keep on digging…

  27. bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

    deegee says:
    3/12/2013 at 12:40 pm

    Any intelligent person knows that surveys are useless. /// Just the opposite….. making you…….(intelligent people filled in the blank on their own initial read)

    They would do better by checking those states that have various types of licensing or registration, and using those numbers as a general per-capita value. /// I thought most gun registrations were NOT in a data base? so yeah—if guns were registered, kept in a data base, such a system would be better than a survey. But Wayne LaPierre is agin it.

    Most gun owners will not tell someone calling on the phone that they have any guns. /// And you know that how? And by such haruspication you negate the trend line over years how?

    DeeGee…. why you so dumb?

  28. deowll says:

    I will agree with Dallas about something. The number of guns sold as a direct response to BO is absolutely staggering. The manufacturers can’t keep up. I would also doubt that a survey asking about gun ownerships is going to get a more honest response than asking if you keep jewelry and money at home. Anyone with a brain is very likely to say no or drop dead.

    • McCullough says:

      That’s pretty much my response to anyone political or otherwise who calls me and asks me about details of my personal life.

      Surveys are not to be trusted.

      • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

        Pure Ignorance. The SCIENCE of surveys takes into account non responsive targets==thats why there is a necessary group size and a confidence level.

        Also, be aware of labeling errors. If I go out and make then publish a “survey” how valid is it??==Not much. No, the SOURCE and credibility of the survey author has to be evaluated as well. And along the “Statistics Lie” argument==you have to appreciate exactly what the survey actually surveyed. Individual ownership, home ownership, home ownership plus in your car or garage, and so forth==three very different surveys.

        Always amusing when people who don’t know jack squat think they know more than experts who spend their lives in an activity.

        Do you really think surveys are rendered invalid because of people refusing to answer questions?

        ….. yes, we can all point to failures in surveys, polling and what not. Thats why Gallop got the Election Wrong and Nate Silver scored 100% on a State by State Analysis.

        Science.

  29. Ah_Yea says:

    So can someone (who isn’t a troll or an idiot, a zealot, or bozo the troll who is apparently all three) explain why Gallup shows that Gun ownership is UP (and I mean WAY up?)

    How’s this?
    “Republicans and Democrats say they have a gun in their household: 55% to 40%.

    The percentage of women who report household gun ownership is also at a new high, now registering 43%.

    At 47%, reported gun ownership is the highest it has been in nearly two decades. …”

    I love the charts, which clearly shows how gun ownership is up a good 10 points in major demographics. Obama IS the best gun saleman EVER!

    http://tinyurl.com/ahhz5me

    • bobbo, neutering gun nuts with their own lack of ammunition says:

      From the OP link: “Gallup, which asks a similar question but has a different survey design, shows a higher ownership rate and a more moderate decrease. No national survey tracks the number of guns within households.” /// aka they don’t expand home ownershp to include other locations as does Gallup. The two surveys are completely consistent with one another.

  30. MikeN says:

    So the number of households have increased, so non gun owners have gone from 50 to 65%. Probably in line with an increase in single women.


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