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The Justice Department used a secret subpoena to obtain two months of phone records for Associated Press reporters and editors without notifying the news organization, a senior department official tells NBC News, saying the step was necessary to avoid “a substantial threat to the integrity” of an ongoing leak investigation…

The seizure of the phone records, disclosed earlier Monday by AP President and CEO Gary Pruitt, is the latest move in a series of high profile and controversial investigations of leaks of classified information by the Justice Department.

In a letter of protest to Attorney General Eric Holder, Pruitt called said obtaining more than two months of AP phone records on 20 separate telephone lines without prior notice was a “massive and unprecedented intrusion” into news-gathering operations.

It also drew a swift rebuke Monday from members of Congress and freedom of the press watchdogs, one of whom called the move “Nixonian.”

Ronald C. Machen, Jr., the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., revealed in a letter to the AP on Friday that federal prosecutors obtained the records. The letter did not give a reason for obtaining the records, but Machen is conducting an investigation into the leak of classified information about a foiled terror plot in Yemen last year. An AP story last spring reported details of a CIA operation in Yemen that stopped an al Qaeda plot to detonate a bomb on an airplane bound for the United States…

As another sign of the sensitivity of the case, CIA Director John Brennan disclosed earlier this year that he also had been questioned by FBI agents as part of the Yemen probe, but said he was later notified that he was not a subject of the investigation.

Bill Miller, spokesman for Machen, said in an email that the subpoena for the records was done by the book.

Read through the details of what occurred and let us know if you think Nixonian is appropriate. If not – what is?



  1. Uncle Leo says:

    Where are you getting this wire tapping stuff? As far as I know they only got call records on some 20 phone lines.

  2. MikeN says:

    Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can’t be trusted.

    • msbpodcast says:

      Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can’t be trusted.

      Its not the experiment that is untrustworthy, its the 1%er scum politicians we have to pick from who are untrustworthy.

      Washington was right in his farewell address.

      Parties are self-selecting anti-democratic, authoritarian playground for the elites.

      • bobbo, we think with words and flower with ideas says:

        “Parties are self-selecting anti-democratic, authoritarian playground for the elites.” /// Kudo’s. All around, from insight to expression. And “…♫ its got a back beat you can’t lose it…♫”

        Thank you.

  3. MikeN says:

    When there is evidence of scandalous or bizarre behavior on the part of a political figure, and no reasonable explanation is revealed within 24 to 48 hours, then the truth is probably as bad as everyone suspects.

    Nobody withholds exculpatory information. Nobody who’s been accused of something wrong waits for “just the right moment” to unveil information that proves the charge baseless.

    You and I both know, in our guts, and based upon everything we’ve seen in Washington since we started our careers, that there’s no innocent explanation for the Obama administration’s actions before, during, and after the Benghazi attacks.

    If there was evidence the military was doing everything they could to rescue our guys on that awful night, we would have heard about it long ago. If there was a good reason for the “talking points” to get edited down from a false premise (a demonstration) but at least serious information (previous CIA warnings about terrorist activity) to false pabulum, we would have heard it by now. And if there was a good reason for State Department lawyers to call up Deputy Chief of Mission Gregory Hicks and tell him not to allow the RSO, the acting Deputy Chief of Mission, and himself to be interviewed by Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, we would have heard that by now, too.

    You can see what’s going on here. You may not want to see it, or believe it, but you can see it. The federal government made awful, unforgivable wrong decisions about the security for its people in Benghazi. They compounded the error by failing to put together even the beginning of a rescue mission during the seven-hour assault.

    My friends in media, you know what is going on when you see President Obama say this:

    The whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. What we have been very clear about throughout was that immediately after this event happened we were not clear who exactly had carried it out, how it had occurred, what the motivations were.

    You know what this is: stop looking at what I did, and start looking at the people accusing me of wrongdoing. We’ve seen this tactic before: “The vast right-wing conspiracy.”

    SCANDAL TWO: Hey, Why Does the IRS Have to Tell the Truth to Congress, Anyway?

    NBC News points out that the IRS appears to have directly lied to Congress when asked about the targeting of conservative groups:

    Lois Lerner, head of the IRS division on tax-exempt organizations, learned in June 2011 that agents had targeted groups with names including “Tea Party” and “Patriots,” according to the draft obtained by NBC News.

    She “instructed that the criteria immediately be revised,” according to the draft. Ten months later, in March 2012, the IRS commissioner at the time, Douglas Shulman, testified to Congress that the IRS was not targeting tax-exempt groups based on their politics.

    Members of Congress had sent letters to Shulman as early as June 2011 asking specifically about targeting of conservative groups, according to a House Ways and Means Committee summary obtained by NBC News.

    The IRS responded at least six times but made no mention of targeting conservatives, according to the committee’s summary.

    “Oh, you mean that effort to conservative groups, we thought you meant a different one.”

    Remember the explanation that this was just some runaway low-level employees in one office? Yeah, that was bull: “Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved in the targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.”

    • McCullough says:

      Are you trying to entice bobbo to start bobboling again?

      Haven’t we heard enough?

      • MikeN says:

        Oh, I guess so. His latest posts I have just skipped, so I haven’t quite felt the effect. You should try it. Easy to do when he gives such a long name.

  4. jpfitz says:

    If anyone is surprised by the goings on since W you are all fools. The past thirteen years has been the destruction of the constitution and the bill of rights. The wall street theft fiasco and The patriot act was the beginning of the end. We haven’t had a real president since 1963. USA, USA, USA.

    • msbpodcast says:

      We haven’t had a real president since Eisenhower (who warned us about the coming of the military-industrial complex.)

    • MikeN says:

      You mean the president who was auditing Nixon and other Republicans and sent segregated troops to the South despite desegregation of the military having happened 10 years prior?

  5. MikeN says:

    10. Obama admires Abraham Lincoln.

    9. Saul Alinsky died in 1972.

    8. Campaign 2012 was an aberration.

    7. “Punish your enemies” was an aberration.

    6. Nobel Peace Prize.

    5. Campaign 2008 was an aberration.

    4. Obama taught constitutional law.

    3. The War on Fox News was an aberration.

    2. Obama’s past was an aberration.

    1. There are no red taxpayers or blue taxpayers, only American taxpayers.

  6. bobbo, we think with words and flower with ideas says:

    Mikey complaining of long names demonstrates the error is not saved by placement says:
    5/15/2013 at 6:44 am

    When there is evidence of scandalous or bizarre behavior on the part of a political figure, and no reasonable explanation is revealed within 24 to 48 hours, then the truth is probably as bad as everyone suspects. /// I will quibble with this excellent summary and say the truth is probably worse.

    Nobody withholds exculpatory information. Nobody who’s been accused of something wrong waits for “just the right moment” to unveil information that proves the charge baseless. /// Redundant but supportive. Also applies to “secret plans” promised during elections campaigns. aka===they don’t exist.

    You and I both know, in our guts, and based upon everything we’ve seen in Washington since we started our careers, that there’s no innocent explanation for the Obama administration’s actions before, during, and after the Benghazi attacks. /// Innocent? Perhaps not, but still very OBVIOUS to anyone with these guts you refer to. The fact that there is any DISCUSSION about this issue at all is further evidence of the profound disqualified/incompetent character of the electorate.

    If there was evidence the military was doing everything they could to rescue our guys on that awful night, we would have heard about it long ago. /// I thought we heard they weren’t told to try. They act only on orders. Just as it should/must be.

    If there was a good reason for the “talking points” to get edited down from a false premise (a demonstration) but at least serious information (previous CIA warnings about terrorist activity) to false pabulum, we would have heard it by now. And if there was a good reason for State Department lawyers to call up Deputy Chief of Mission Gregory Hicks and tell him not to allow the RSO, the acting Deputy Chief of Mission, and himself to be interviewed by Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, we would have heard that by now, too. /// Sounds like White House diddling proved to me.

    You can see what’s going on here. You may not want to see it, or believe it, but you can see it. The federal government made awful, unforgivable wrong decisions about the security for its people in Benghazi. They compounded the error by failing to put together even the beginning of a rescue mission during the seven-hour assault. /// Hmmm. Is that true…. or is the problem having people there to begin with? Or…the decision of the ambassador himself to go there/be there all on his lonesome self? You know==he loved the Egyptian people and wanted to be with them. …… and so he was.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    My friends in media, you know what is going on when you see President Obama say this:

    The whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. What we have been very clear about throughout was that immediately after this event happened we were not clear who exactly had carried it out, how it had occurred, what the motivations were. /// That is always true with attendant variation.

    You know what this is: stop looking at what I did, and start looking at the people accusing me of wrongdoing. We’ve seen this tactic before: “The vast right-wing conspiracy.” //// Ha, ha. What is obvious is OBVIOUS. What do you think is obvious???? Me: each of the two main elements of your complaint has themselves two elements each with its own evidence and truth but they are in political tension with one another. Partisans of both stink try to champion one and downplay the other. Fools take sides.

    SCANDAL TWO: Hey, Why Does the IRS Have to Tell the Truth to Congress, Anyway?

    NBC News points out that the IRS appears to have directly lied to Congress when asked about the targeting of conservative groups:

    Lois Lerner, head of the IRS division on tax-exempt organizations, learned in June 2011 that agents had targeted groups with names including “Tea Party” and “Patriots,” according to the draft obtained by NBC News.

    She “instructed that the criteria immediately be revised,” according to the draft. Ten months later, in March 2012, the IRS commissioner at the time, Douglas Shulman, testified to Congress that the IRS was not targeting tax-exempt groups based on their politics.

    Members of Congress had sent letters to Shulman as early as June 2011 asking specifically about targeting of conservative groups, according to a House Ways and Means Committee summary obtained by NBC News.

    The IRS responded at least six times but made no mention of targeting conservatives, according to the committee’s summary.

    “Oh, you mean that effort to conservative groups, we thought you meant a different one.”

    Remember the explanation that this was just some runaway low-level employees in one office? Yeah, that was bull: “Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved in the targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.”

    ////////// Nice review. Sadly, perhaps the only way our society will get review of taxable political entities falsely filing for tax exempt status IS by partisan evaluation as opposed to what we have now which is approval of OBVIOUSLY fraudulent organizations because of the fear of being called partisan. LETS BE PARTISAN THEN: dumbos putting the pukes on the rack when in power, then the reverse. That way there might be some, as opposed to none, enforcement of our laws. Being non-partisan doesn’t work.

    Its called a laboratory of democracy for a reason (sic!).

    Ha, ha.

    • pedro says:

      MikeN: Why wouldn’t you just kept your piehole shut! See? You named Dumbbo and here he is babbling incoherently.

      I blame you.

  7. bobbo, all your passionate analysis are belong to us says:

    Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other.
    ~Oscar Ameringer, “the Mark Twain of American Socialism.”

  8. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Let’s hope the low information voter actually values their personal liberty and votes these bastards out in 2014 so we can begin prosecuting everyone involved in these unAmerican activities.

    And lets do a fair tax and terminate the IRS forever.

  9. MikeN says:

    Oh, and the liberals at this blog were lied to on Benghazi, to the point where they posted this.

    http://dvorak.org/blog/2012/09/14/mitts-major-meltdown/

  10. MikeN says:

    Chris Matthews became famous attacking Clinton before impeachment, to the point where people thought he was right-wing. Now that his ratings are down, and he’s been pushed out in favor of Rachel Maddow, might he do it again, and would MSNBC let him?

    • MikeN says:

      And might Obama start a war to distract attention? If I were Iran, I’d be getting nervous about now.