Should the federal government help Oklahoma after this weeks tornadoes? Normally I would say absolutely yes. However, both of Oklahoma’s Senators, Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn have repeatedly voted against funding FEMA and voted against relief for other areas of the country. The both voted no for Hurricane Sandy relief. So now comes Oklahoma with their hat in their hand wanting money from the government after they said no when the rest of the country needed help. Shame on you! Shame on you!

So – should we help them? Yes – we are America and we take care of each other in times of disaster. Certainly the little children aren’t responsible for how the senators vote. And I say we should help even though I know that if we have a big earthquake that Oklahoma is going to vote no to help us.

But if I were a senator I would tell Coburn and Inhofe that I’m not going to support disaster relief till the begged for forgiveness on the floor of the Senate. And I would make them pledge to never vote against disaster relief again. There just has to be a price to pay for that level of hypocrisy.

  1. MikeN says:

    Tom Coburn has announced that he is opposed to funding for Oklahoma that is not offset by other spending cuts. Same as with other disasters. So there goes your hypocrisy charge.

    Now, I don’t know about tornadoes, but with hurricanes, the Feds operate a cheap insurance plan that undercuts the other insurance companies, and actually encourages people to build where they are likely to need the Feds to bail them out, because it’s now such a good deal.

    • Marc Perkel says:

      Actually it makes it even more hypocritical because Coburn know that the “liberals” are going to override him and force him to take disaster relief.

      So what does Coburn say we should cut to pay for Oklahoma?

      • MikeN says:

        You’re reaching Eiditor levels of idiocy there. Now it’s even more hypocritical to stick to your principles? This is even dumber than when they attacked Bill Bennett’s gambling.

  2. MikeN says:

    This wasn’t even their biggest tornado in Oklahoma in the last 15 years, not even close. Oklahoma can probably handle it on its own.
    Good for the Oklahoma Senators to stand up for the taxpayers and not let their colleagues sneak in all sorts of pet projects under the guise of emergency funding.

    • Juan of the Dead! says:

      I’ll have to look, but I’d bet the reason they (Coburn and Inhofe) opposed the Hurricane Sandy bill was for the exact same reasons — pet project “riders” in the bill and the inability to balance the fiscal offsets of that bill.

      Thanks for info. It’s appalling that the leftists in the media never care enough to tell the WHOLE story. You can’t exactly say that they lied here either. But omitting certain facts is no less just as bad. It’s even worse when facts are knowingly omitted which I’m the one guy reporting this story did — and which I’m sure the rest of them just repeated (like brain dead lemmings).

  3. ± says:

    The Hurricane Sandy bill was full of pork. They were voting against the pork.

    • MikeN says:

      Not even sure if it was a hurricane. I’ve seen many reports qualifying downgrading it to extratropical storm, though there may have been political interference in that decision.

      • jpfitz says:

        I think you’re correct. The storm was a lot of rain combined with a very large storm surge. We did get some wind but not a hurricane. I get sick and tired of arguing with people about this. If you noticed all the coastal areas were affected the worst. There were some downed trees inland a beautiful 40′ blue spruce across the street from me was blown down.

  4. MikeN says:

    Liberals are going to be bashing Oklahoma’s Senator for being opposed to funding for his state, and desperate to spend the money, as they always are.

    Reminds me of three things:
    Governors who refused high-speed rail funding, and liberals insistence they take the money.
    Netanyahu calling for a reduction of US aid to Israel, with various establishment types wanting the money to keep flowing.

  5. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Mikey still not appreciating the value of underplaying his position says:
    5/22/2013 at 8:30 am

    Liberals are going to be bashing Oklahoma’s Senator for being opposed to funding for his state, and desperate to spend the money, as they always are. /// liberals: those who want to help people in need who qualify for aid pursuant to programs already set up and funded? Your equation then must “work” that conservatives want to tax people for such insurance and when the need arises screw them to the wall to save the money collected?—-Good Boy.

    Reminds me of three things:
    Governors who refused high-speed rail funding, and liberals insistence they take the money. /// I’m sure this happened. But more likely is those insisting money be taken were bought and paid for creeps in the pocket of Big Rail regardless of party. What do YOU bet? You go that way just below. Ha, ha—typical Teaf*ckPublican short attention span.

    Netanyahu calling for a reduction of US aid to Israel, with various establishment types wanting the money to keep flowing. /// Establishment types???—Not liberdrools???? Get back on the Meds or Alfie will sit and pray with you.

    NATO /// Valuable Organization that benefits the USA more and more as we accept secondary rolls. Whats your real beef with NATO? Once again, were you retardedly reading The UN in your talking points and typed NATO because you really don’t know the difference?

    Curious minds …… no. Curious minds don’t care what a shill thinks.

  6. Juan of the Dead! says:

    Don’t you have a job to go to or something?


  7. Uncle Patso says:

    The states in Tornado Alley should get together and form a public/private organization to research, design and make available low cost storm shelters to any property owner in the area. A specialist organization can be faster and more cost effective than hundreds or thousands of separate contractors.

    Example: I remember hearing estimates that the Kuwaiti oil fields set on fire by Saddam Hussein’s army would take two to two and a half years to extinguish, but by the time they got started on them it was done in ten months.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      I’ve heard 3-4 times now it reported that what makes underground storm shelters so expensive is that the ground in OK is “hard.”

      WTF??? I know what hard pan is, we have it hear in two layers: one at 18 in and another around 4 ft. Requires a pick axe to get thru—unless you soak it the night before with water.

      Just more excuses. Of course–every building designed for more than 25 people occupancy should have a required basement meeting Tornado Codes.

      Yep-another snip on your freedom balls.

      Man Up.

  8. RS says:

    The idea of using politics to decide just which Americans get help and which do not is appalling.

    I would say SHAME on you liberals. But then, I understand you don’t comprehend the concept.

  9. Dallas says:

    Approve the funds demand the Teabagger resign before funds are released

    • pedro says:

      I agree. We should make Obomba resign.

    • MikeN says:

      Good point. Obama said he would balance the budget by making the wealthy pay a little more. Now that he has gotten his tax increase, if he comes back asking for a debt ceiling increase, he should resign.

      • Dallas says:

        Reagan’s raised the debt ceiling 18 times vs Obama 6 times.

        Obama gets to raise the debt ceiling 12 more times before you’re allowed to belly ache

        • MikeN says:

          LOL, that’s the best you could do? Obama asked for 2.4 trillion dollars in debt ceiling at once.

  10. Bob Whiite says:

    The problem is with the liberal states and their sense of entitlement and selfishness. Oklahoma doesn’t need federal dollars because of the giving nature of the residents here. One of our basketball players gave one million dollars, one company gave one million while another gave two and a half million. Even a new Texan, and honorary Okie, Glenn Beck, helped raise over one million dollars. I know that’s a drop in the bucket compared to the total cost of all the damage but it helps those in need right now rather than waiting days or weeks for federal aid.
    One case where someone asked for volunteers to help clear an area of rubble and expected at least 100 people got over 2000 to help. It’s the nature of the people here to help each other and expect nothing in return. You see it all the time in Oklahoma and other like states. Don’t demand our help if you need it, but simply ask for it and you’ll get more than you expected. That’s the way we are here in Oklahoma and our Senators follow suit.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Just like OK has to declare a State of Emergency and ask for Federal help?

      Read your own post: the voluntary help provided is “a drop in the bucket” compared to what is needed.

      That about sums it up.

      • pedro says:

        Are you talking about the Obomba budget now, Bobbo?

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Talking about any State’s Request for Disaster Relief in the main. THEN the appropriateness of Federally supported disaster relief. More generically—the good of the many vs the self centeredness and shortsightedness of the few.

          Thanks for asking Pedro. Identifying the subject helps avoid all the side trips that are possible.

          I look forward to your next post.

      • Bob Whiite says:

        I said Oklahoma doesn’t need federal aid. I did not say Oklahoma wouldn’t accept federal aid. We would survive and rebuild without it and be content. Knowing that if we are in need as individuals that we have family, friends and neighbors to help. We wouldn’t riot, demand money from the government or even expect it. We are not dependent on federal aid. I know helping your neighbors must be a foreign concept to you but it is alive and well in Oklahoma. Are there any other words here you’d care to twist to meet your negative views about conservatives?

  11. Glenn E. says:

    This sort of reminds me of Mass. situation. They’ve voted down raising taxes for their citizens for years. And yet their “Big Dig” highway project thru Boston, cost more to fund than the State could have afforded. So the US taxpayer footed most of the cost. It’s Ok with the Mass. millionaires if the rest of us pay higher taxes. And/or more for food, clothing, and health care, because the deficit spending raises inflation, and decrease the value of the currency. But Massachusetts citizens (mostly the rich ones) aren’t going to stand paying for all of that free ride spending they’re getting. Shame on them too.

    • MikeN says:

      They’ve raised taxes in Massachusetts not too long ago with the current governor, after Mitt Romney raised lots of fees but kept the income tax rate steady. The Federal Government footed the bill because that’s what they always do. Most of that project could have been skipped, such as a special tunnel for rich people in the Cape to get to Logan Airport faster.

  12. Glenn E. says:

    I feel for the regular people of Oklahoma, who felt they needed to live where they are. In a part of the country that potentially gets more of these storms, than any other. It’s not their fault. It’s probably were the jobs all are, now. Corporations, realizing that they can have low cost labor, in parts of the US, sparsely populated in the past. Lead to a housing development boom, where homes probably hardly existed, a few decades ago. And for good reason. But then an once in 50 years storms, blows thru town X. Proving why it’s not such a wise idea to live there. And the citizens wonder why God is punishing them? Or the local politicians are wondering, why this had to happen on their watch? But nobody points a finger at what cause the people to put themselves in harms way, knowingly or (more likely) unknowingly. Like the days of the Dust Bowl era, some profiteering deal was at work. And the people got screwed, when nature simply did what it would normally do, if nobody was living there.

    It’s like that philosophical question, “If a tree falls in the forest, when nobody is around. Does it make a sound?” You don’t want to be building a home, beneath a large tree that might fall on it. Just because you never saw such a tree fall down, before. And you don’t want to build a home, directly facing the ocean. Just because you haven’t heard of a hurricane hitting that part of the shore line before. But there will be some with money and influence, to convince you otherwise. And they’ll try like hell to get you to invest in living in a home, in a dangerous area. Because of jobs and opportunities, in those areas, the government and corporations conspired to arrange for. Rather than arranging for the job growth to happen in older, safer, established population zones. Because the wealthy only make more money encouraging “Urban Sprawl”. Even when it sprawls into Hurricane Alley. And they’re the ones, really counting on the taxpayers to pick up the pieces. Because without a well funded recovery, people would wise up and not live there again.

    So basically, in a nutshell, FEMA is a subsidy to whoever builds the new homes, and moves their jobs to underdeveloped areas. They’re the ones counting on the disaster relieve, when the sh*t hits the fan. So they can keep on developing in weather ravaged America, at the taxpayers’ expense.

  13. Porky Rottenham says:

    You got it right, John.

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  15. Buzz Mega says:

    The government should close Tornado Alley and make it a National Park.