http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20080917&t=2&i=6037547&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2008-09-17T193616Z_01_N17507288_RTRUKOP_0_PICTURE0

I guess the good news is that they don’t hate us for our freedom anymore.

Austrian plane search for leaker Snowden enrages Bolivia
 

 



  1. g says:

    Go to sleep Marc everyone else has, about 7 years ago.

    • noname says:

      Speak for yourself! Nighty night!

      Obama is more of a threat to humanity, justice and democracy then Snowden will ever be!

      Just in terms of innocent people murdered (droned)…

      Is this why people elected Obama, NO!

      • pedro says:

        The authority about Bolivian cuban proxies hath spoken.

        I think this is a subject you reaaaaally know nothing about, so act accordingly.

        • noname says:

          Oh sad pathetic pedro, here you are again ever the fool.

          nu pedro, old pedro, it’s still just pathetic loser pedro on the troll.

          pedro proves yet again, ignorance (or some brain wasting disease) knows no bounds.

          Ever a clown, ever the clown!

          I do find our talks very entertaining!

          • pedro says:

            So, enlighten us in the Bolivian subject, since you seem to be an expert on it.

            C’mon, share your “knowledge”

          • noname says:

            If you are worth your weight in a “bag-o-S”; quote exactly where in this thread, I so claimed subject matter expertize?

            With that, oh dull one, maybe then I shall answer your question?

          • pedro says:

            Evading the subject. Figures.

            No surprise there!

          • noname says:

            Yes poor child-minded pedro, figures you are unable to support you claims!

            Everyone finds no surprise there!

            It so easy to make a fool of pedro, it’s fun!

            :) :)

          • pedro says:

            Yes nobrain, is me the one looking like a fool. Keep telling yourself that

          • noname says:

            Well pedro, I am glad you realized your folly and agreed with me; indeed you do look and act foolishly! Well, it must be you took your brain pills today!

            I don’t need to say more.

            I am glad to see you are back to your old habit of name calling, “nobrain”. Oh that hurts, really it hurts, did I say how that hurts, and oh the pain….oh the agony…pedro called me a name, boo hoo!

            It was 6/4 when Uncle D issued his warning. It doesn’t take you long to break your promises.

            Further, it’s funny how others here have repeatably turned on you; especially, when you think you are on their bandwagon!

            I’ll try not to Stomp `N’ Twist on your cranial fungus ridden toes during our inevitable ongoing Do-si-do!

          • pedro says:

            You started insulting people the day after. You have absolutely no word whatsoever. And you dare to call me out? Idiot!

          • noname says:

            pedro ever the hypocrite coward, show me your example/proof of me “name calling” on 6/5.

            In fact, you still persisted with your personal attacks such that Uncle Dave again intervened, warning you!

            Uncle Dave 6/5/2013 at 3:40 pm!

  2. bobbo, we think with words, and flower with movie references says:

    HEY!!!! You’re supposed to link to articles that flesh these headlines out. While heavily multi-tasking ((code for using more than just my right hand)) I’ve heard that Obama did it, then I heard that a few European states simply denied a aircraft they thought Snowden was in passage thru their air space. So, was this guy on THAT airplane or were there more than one flight involved?

    I’m not going to go google it.

    You Eds are getting AS lazy as us……. not a good thing.

    HINT: I’ll check back in a few for the missing link.

    • chase barber says:

      People have been hunting the ‘missing link’ for years.
      Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

      • orchidcup says:

        There is no ‘missing link.’

        A mysterious magical being created humans from the dust of the earth and breathed life into our nostrils.

        Don’t you read the writings of ancient nomadic tribesmen?

        The cosmology of the universe is spelled out in plain English.

        Well, sort of.

      • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with movie references says:

        I -DO- help myself.

        Well Done.

        Always best to see the humor in things.

  3. Holdfast says:

    Don’t worry about people elsewhere hating you. The 96% of the planet that is not the USA mostly either does not give a s**t about the people in the US (the same as your government) or considers them as fellow human beings (which is not done by very many governments about their subjects).

    Now there are plenty people that are not too fond of your government but I get the idea that that is a pretty popular attitude in your general population.

  4. god says:

    Welcome to Imperial Rome. Consider how many commenters sound just like plebeian citizens.

    Sorry for suggesting an historical analogy that may require reading.

    • noname says:

      I am thinking how useful it would be to start a WH petition to impeach Obama!

  5. orchidcup says:

    They don’t hate us for our freedom anymore?

    What freedom?

  6. orchidcup says:

    The plane incident was the latest twist in a saga which has raised a furor in the United States and abroad over the balance between privacy rights and national security.

    There is that damn meme again, “the balance between privacy rights and national security.”

    That concept does not appear anywhere in the Constitution.

    • MikeN says:

      You mean like warrants letting cops into your house?

    • MikeN says:

      Or perhaps soldiers can be quartered in your house in wartime?

      • Occupying Mgmt says:

        Cool. I think we shall just call everything “war”.

        • Tim says:

          “I’m afraid we’re gonna have to come in and share the company of your daughter in her bed this morning, ma’am — There is a war against that heavier than usual dew…”

  7. Cap'n Kangaroo says:

    Here is a link to an AP story on this

    http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-case-france-didnt-block-bolivia-plane-101339698.html

    Nowhere does either story explain how refusing overflight requests or even searching the plane when on the ground in Austria is “Kidnapping”. Nor does either offer the slightest evidence that any of this was done at the direction of the US administration.

    • Msbpodcast says:

      It wasn’t done because O’Mama requested it.

      It was done because the NSA’s wiretaps have revealed some facts that the French gummint would rather keep quiet, so they caved.

      It just shows just how powerful your agency really is when you can coerce a third party, France, into some pretty, uh, drastic and extremely undiplomatic action detaining the president of a foreign country, Bolivia, boarding his plane and searching it for someone who isn’t there. (And what would they have done if he was there? Shot the all and called it a faulty landing?)

      • MikeN says:

        Obama bombed Libya at France’s request. They owe him.

      • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

        “It just shows just how powerful your agency really is when you can coerce a third party, France, into some pretty, uh, drastic and extremely undiplomatic action detaining the president of a foreign country, Bolivia, boarding his plane and searching it for someone who isn’t there”

        The plane did not land in France.
        The plane was not searched by the French.
        France did not detain the Bolivian leader.

        All the French MAY have done is deny the Bolivian plane overflight rights, and that is only on the word of the Bolivians. According to the French , they gave permission for the overflight Tuesday and again on Wednesday. Same deal with Spain saying that gave permission for overflight and refueling stop in the Canary Islands for Tuesday and again on Wednesday.

        The only thing that the Bolivians and other countries seem to agree on is that the plane landed in Austria, spent the nite there and flew out again on Wednesday. The Austrians say the Bolivian President agreed to a voluntary inspection of the plane before it departed just before noon Wednesday.

        • pedro says:

          And he had to land anyway because “his” plane (not his really, it is a venezuelan plane) is a measle Falcon 900 EX without autonomy (5,180 miles) to fly from Russia to Bolivia in one go.

    • LibertyLover says:

      Nor does either offer the slightest evidence that any of this was done at the direction of the US administration.

      Nor was there the slightest evidence that Prism was a reality either . . . until there was.

      I guess we need whistleblowers to tell us the truth from now on. Our gubmint sure ain’t gonna tell us.

      • orchidcup says:

        PRISM is not a reality.

        Go back to sleep.

        All is well.

        Your government loves you and protects you.

        Nighty-night.

      • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

        So we should simply believe the statements of Bolivian diplomatic spokespeople and disregard the statements of every other countries spokespersons because of…. Why?

        While we are at it, I guess we should believe every statement from from North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Israel, Egypt, etc and not even bother to ask for any type of evidence, proof, or confirmation. They have certainly never lied (dripping sarcasm).

        • orchidcup says:

          Nobody lies. They speak their own special truth.

          Honesty is very subjective.

        • LibertyLover says:

          Considering the purpose of the search . . . you doubt where it originated from?

  8. Msbpodcast says:

    Well there went any good will left after Obama trod on the same US constitution that Bush-Cheney wiped their asses with.

    Lets spy on everybody, and keep it a secret.”

    Everybody would have been much happier with it if it hadn’t been for that last keep it a secret part.

    NSA must stand for Nut-job Secretive Assholes.

  9. MikeN says:

    “I guess the good news is that they don’t hate us for our freedom anymore.”

    Note to Eiditor, that’s how you do commentary!

  10. orchidcup says:

    Here is a photo of Americans protesting the collection of personal data by the NSA:

    Americans protesting government snooping

    Ooops! I goofed.

    That is a photo of Egyptian protests.

    My bad.

    Carry on.

  11. orchidcup says:

    Correction:

    Here is a photo of Americans protesting the collection of personal data by the NSA:

    Americans protesting government snooping

    • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with crack pot political notions says:

      Its actually “good” to live in a country where politics does not bring the people out into the streets. Its called “stability” and general acceptance. “Should” more Americans be out in the streets?===only an idiot would say yes.

      THE ACTIVITY should take place in the privacy of the polling booth. As in:

      VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE…. each time.

      Streets are for people going someplace.

  12. pedro says:

    Sure, that ignorant indian is a threat to no one.

    • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with crack pot political notions says:

      Hey Pedro—given we are all more ignorant than informed, what is this indian ignorant about that deserves your hanging that label on him?

      The only thing I read about him that I remember is that he is of native stock which is quite unusual for an elected political leader anywhere in South America?

      Forget how he accomplished that. Just filling in to say he implemented extensive land reforms and welfare programs and so forth.

      Whats the Beef?

      • pedro says:

        I was about to answer you, but I’ll hold a bit until noname regales us with his vast knowledge on the subject.

        Don’t worry, I’ll be forced to answer you shortly.

      • pedro says:

        What made him win that label? I don’t know, that he’s a low-double-digit IQ idiot?

        I can see that the cuban history revisionism has caught up with you, what with you claiming that he’s done some “social programs”. As if he’s the only person in the region who has done that.

        If you haven’t heard, the political technique is called populism and latin american politicians an experts on that technique. The thing I dislike the most about Obomba is how much of a populist he is and yet he’s just a kid compared to anyone in latin america.

        On top of that, the ignorant indian doesn’t do anything not sanctioned by havana and funded by venezuela. The plane he’s flying around is the perfect example: it was “given” by chavez at the behest of castro.

        If there’s anyone anti Obomba here is me, but trying to belittle him by comparing him with someone with far less scruples than the lowest street gang member in the US, you’re doing nothing more than helping Obomba.

        Maybe that’s your strategy

        • bobbo, we think with words but low a gasket or large dildo when trying to think of new ideas, it often being easier to follow the herd says:

          If I were the Pres of a poor country and other countries offered to give me a plane to fly around in…. I’d take it.

          Where is the stupidity here regarding this indian except in your tangent to an anti-Obama screed?

          Can you get on point and be relevant?

  13. Dallas says:

    Notice to 2 bit countries : Don’t fuck with Obama ! That goes to the President of Venezuela where I bet he will be granted asylum.

    Snowden should have accepted the deal from his comrade, Putin. Now he’s pretty much fucked.

    • pedro says:

      He’ll be granted asylum there if the cuban overlords decide so; or did you fail to notice the cubana de aviacion plane he was using?. Just as it happens with Ecuador & Bolivia, all pawns of the same masters.

    • Tim says:

      Palantir called, They said your personna management software is no longer genuine. You will no longer recieve patch-tuesday critical updates to the shillification routine. Please delete the package from your system.

      If you feel you have recieved this message in error, you will still need to renew you liscence. Just use the same account and RMA# we gave you to ransom back your penis.

      http://dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All

      • Dallas says:

        I think you’re on meth or you clicked the wrong window to reply to a screwed up order. Keep your blogging off the work PC or your high school boss is gonna find out.

        • Tim says:

          Yea, we were learning how to use a soldering iron today to make wedding rings out of pennies and wire; I pointed out that it’s not copper inside, but zinc. And that zinc makes redy-made bullets with the low heat of a stove. I’m a terrorist. It is just what I do.

        • Tim says:

          The problem with *meth*, these days, is trying to teach all the so-called ‘cooks’ how to make lye out of salt water… They can not understand the relevance of a ‘salt-bridge’ so what they end up with is lots of chlorox.

          • Tim says:

            P.S.

            It’s also not ideal for making soap out of lye and fat to fuck up so badly.

        • Tim says:

          God Damn, Dallas; You are not really very good at this, are you? My kibitz-bot is better at it.

          If I might borrow a redicuously stupid sign-off from bobbo,

          yea, verily.

          • bobbo, we think with words but low a gasket or large dildo when trying to think of new ideas, it often being easier to follow the herd says:

            HA!!!! I say HA!!!!!

            ALL my sobriquets and bon mots are of infinite meaning and beauty placed before you in my private reverie for their own intrinsic beauty. No better polish than their utility in usage.

            …. but I dither.

          • Tim says:

            bobbo,

            The modern French spelling is sobriquet. The first form suggests derivation from sot, foolish, and the second form, briquet, is a French adaptation of Italian brichetto, diminutive of bricco, ass, knave, possibly connected with briccone, rogue, which is supposed to be a derivative of Ger. brechen, to break; but Skeat considers this spelling to be an example of false etymology.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobriquet#Etymology

            As you are not going with #1 and self-deprication is not self-evident with analysis of your previous posts … carry on!

        • Tim says:

          Oh yea; Happy Fourth!!

  14. MikeN says:

    “WOW! Obama just kidnapped the President of Bolivia!!!”

    The people of Bolivia would be better off if they didn’t pay the ransom.

    • pedro says:

      You have no idea how much, but that guy is held in power not by himself but from cuban meddling with his secret service and the money cuba gives them from venezuela.

      And the people here are upset because there might be indications that the US asked some EU countries a favor not to let them fly by.

    • Dallas says:

      In other news, black hair coloring sales are way down in Bolivia.

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