What a disappointment. Saw the first 2 episodes of the new Start Trek Discovery series. My expectations were already very low and it came in worse that what I thought. Worst SciFi ever! Gene Roddenberry is rolling over in his grave tonight,

The show is 100% battle with no real character development. It’s just fighting and shooting. It has no connection at all with any Star Trek timeline. Doesn’t have the Star Trek feel at all.

In contrast, here’s a fan film Star Trek that totally has the Star Trek feel. Below is real Star Trek.



  1. Dialecticaloppression says:

    Gotta quirp late on the whining in this thread:
    1.The Federation is the US, the Klingons are the Muslims. Anybody that says different is a retard and a typical snowflake. This show is produced by zionists and they are supporting zionism. Period. That is why the show is partially marketed to neoconservatives.
    2.The diversity stuff is Fuller driven. Who knows if it lasts as the Jews want to push zionism and they are bringing in white’s to probably help oversee that, if they want it on CBS proper. This is also why the show is on access than Orville which is your typical “white liberal” elitist stuff where the 2 leads are a Irishman and a Norman while the coloreds stick behind them. Whining about “PC” has become PC itself. If you don’t like the vision, don’t watch. Fuller’s other shit was pretty white. Of course being Gay, Fuller is going to put that in there as gay has not been done on Star Trek much. This show had a agenda and a admitted agenda in 2014-15. You were warned.
    3. The show is directed to the Abrams remake and may even be of the same timeline, if the show does not work out in the end, to save the OT’s mythology. This leads to the very simply plot of zionism vs. anti-zionism. Then a bunch of shoot em ups and other boring crap.

    Being long a member of national communism and who hates what modern “white nationalism” has turned into, white’s need to stop sounding like spoiled children. When the bourgeois expands, you are going to get diversity. Follow the money is the numero uno goal. The Alt-Right is just kosher crap being spewed to manipulate the sheep as much as David Duke’s Stormfront scam. They whine about this crap(PC!!!! SJW!!!!!) and try to make em manipulate them into their jewish financed movement without really understanding what is really going on. The Jews are no friends of the colored people. That is a 20th century revision of the Jew as a creature of diversity post-industrialization and slaves were no longer needed for the fields. Nobody has controlled the world more since 1492 than the Jews and their capital. They have made the Indo-European tribes into house niggers and running their capital schemes. White genocide my ass. More like white genocide by overbreeding which expanded into colored regions by the 20th century. I see so many degenerated “Aryans” it makes me want to puke. The Jews have made us into cattle and finance white nationalism to control us dialectically.

  2. Brhutch says:

    STD sucked! CBS needs to cancel and start over. Berman is still alive, bring him in. I could write a page just on how ridiculous the Klingons are alone. The sfx are way beyond anything possible for timeline they are supposed to be representing. I would rather see a plot/character driven show with cheaper fx where every other episode is about their tech breaking down than one where they can do anything. Also, dialogue is frequently unintelligible and show is unnecessarily dark. Did people turn into bats? And nothing in this is relatable to Roddenberrys optimistic vision of the future. He is spinning.

  3. FUCK U STD says:

    What a POS …
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    nuff said

  4. Glenn E. says:

    I haven’t watched it yet. But the episode titles alone, make me want to run from it. “The Butcher’s Knife Cares Not for the Lamb’s Cry”? Now what the h*ll kind of a title is that? We want terse, easy to remember titles. Not speeches.

    Another title coming up is entirely in Latin. “Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum”. Which translate as “If you want peace, prepare for war”. Now why didn’t they just say that, instead? Trying to be all uber-intellectual, by using Latin? How about “Caveat Trekker”? Let the Star Trek fans Beware.

  5. Glenn E. says:

    Marc said the series is 100% battle. Is that really surprising, coming from CBS? Who perhaps has had more pro-war Tv shows, than any other network. The original Star Trek series was aired on NBC. CBS wasn’t interested, they already had Lost In Space in the works. CBS acquired all things Star Trek, only long after the series was canceled.

    I remember back when I was attending Star Trek conventions, in the early 1970s, the series wasn’t even being rerun, yet. Everything was put on hold, until all the Apollo Moon landings, were over. Can’t have Star Trek upstaging the real thing.

    Not until Star Wars’ success kicked all the Tv execs, in the ass. Did they realize, what they’d been missing out on, for eight years. Only then did we see “Battlestar Galactica” and “Buck Rogers”. But Star Trek TNG, had to wait ten more years. Until a few ST movies proved it worthy of a return to television.

    Or were those lucrative aerospace contracts, with NASA, really so much more important, to the Tv networks’ board members? That they had to keep any futuristic looking Tv series, from disappointing the American taxpayer, with the snails pace of real manned space exploration? I think so. I truly do.

    But just try getting anyone involved with American Television, in the 1970s era, to admit that. Why else was everything good, canceled after 1969? And the only thing new, was talking monkeys, and the bionic hair styles. 1970-77 Tv, sucked.

    Meanwhile the UK was turning out the only Tv shows about outer space. Still looking very contemporary. And only the US independent Tv channels would carry these shows. Why?

    BTW, thank God for “21 Century Tv Productions”. Their few Scifi shows kept me sane, during those bleak years of American Tv [lack of] production. Nothing else good was on.

  6. SmeeegHeed says:

    It’s another Adromeda. Star Trek has needed revitalisation for a while. Enterprise tried but only got half way, yet was still never as bad as this. After a while Enterprise decided to become an experiment and the alternate timeline was used to give free license. Despite that even Enterprise managed to stay fairly true to Star Trek where it matters.

    Discovery or DISCO as we now like to call it is a complete trainwreck of lets just do anything who cares that some have described as vandalism and I would tend to agree with them.

    The only thing that so far has managed to get close to revitalising Star Trek is Orville and that’s a parody. If anything else doesn’t drive home the point of how bad DISCO is, then that should.


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