University of Calif. sued over creationism — I’m waiting for someone to demand professors have religious (ie, Christian) training before they can teach.
A group representing California religious schools has filed a lawsuit accusing the University of California system of discriminating against high schools that teach creationism and other conservative Christian viewpoints.
The Association of Christian Schools International, which represents more than 800 schools, filed a federal lawsuit Thursday claiming UC admissions officials have refused to certify high school science courses that use textbooks challenging Darwin’s theory of evolution. Other rejected courses include “Christianity’s Influence in American History.”
> First off Nazis were not Christians (no matter how bad you
> want them to be).
This is patently wrong. 1930’s Germans, including and especially Nazis, were staunchly Christian. Remember that Germany made up the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire (numerous years earlier of course). Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic, was confirmed and served as an alter boy.
There is absolutely no question that Germans in 1930’s, and especially Nazis, were predominantly Christian.
> Muslims are protected by the MSM and also heavily by the
> ACLU.
The ACLU “protects” a host of groups including Christians. The ACLU’s mission is to protect civil liberties from abuse by the government.
> Christianity is constantly run down as being religious
> zealots and nuts unlike the protected Islamic faith.
Don’t feel bad. People think Christian zealots are equally loony to Islamic zealots.
When I first read the posting by Steven I was excited about reading on but as I kept reading I got slapped in the face by hypocrisy, all the evolutionist did was slam Creationism. What is wrong with the belief in Creationism, Steven was not attacking people that believe in evolution, he was merely stating his thoughts, what the bigoted people that wrote on did was not only attack Creationism but Christians, if you are entitled to your beliefs why can’t we believe what we want to believe too? You are so worried about having your rights infringed upon, what about our rights, what about our free speech? Also, why you are spouting off about evolution being a fact of nature? It is only a theory and a flawed one at that, most of the supposed facts that support it have only been proved to be hoaxes, even Darwin later in life admitted that his THEORY was flawed. Creationism to many is a theory, just like evolution, so why can’t it be given the same amount of respect? Some said that creationism was just made up by man, well so was evolution, if you bothered to do any research before spouting off about how horrible Creationism is you would find out that it has just as much scientific backing as you think evolution does. Read about the Bible why you are at it too, it has NEVER been proven historically wrong, I will repeat NEVER been proven to be historically wrong, you might not believe in God, but you can’t deny the historical accuracy of the Bible, and to those who are thinking that you’ll prove me wrong about the Bible try coming up with a credible source. And to the person that brought Hitler into the subject great job at making yourself sound like a jerk.
> What is wrong with the belief in Creationism,
There is nothing wrong with believing in creationism per se. The problem is when Creationists step over the line and expect that it should be treated as science.
> You are so worried
> about having your rights infringed upon, what about our
> rights, what about our free speech?
Ah, free speech. So, we should allow our science classes to teach that Purple Leprechauns created the universe? We should allow our science classes to teach that aliens created the universe and imprisoned soles in volcanoes?
Science is about what is provable. No one has any problem teach creationism/”intelligent” design for what it is: religion, cultural anthropology, philosophy, ancient civilizations, mythology or a host of other subjects. Just do not try to pass it off as science. Just as we shouldn’t teach Spanish in an English class.
> Also, why you are
> spouting off about evolution being a fact of nature? It is
> only a theory and a flawed one at that, most of the
> supposed facts that support it have only been proved to be
> hoaxes, even Darwin later in life admitted that his THEORY
> was flawed.
> Creationism to many is a theory, just like
> evolution, so why can’t it be given the same amount of
> respect?
You mean like gravity is only a theory? Electromagnetism is only a theory? To make such a statement shows a severe ignorance about the difference between a layman’s definition of a theory and a scientist’s definition of a theory.
That species evolved is a FACT. There is absolutely no question that species have and are evolving. To argue the contrary is the equivalent of arguing that the world is flat. The only discussion is about the mechanics of evolution (e.g. the causes, the speed of evolution etc.) Even “intelligent” design proponents do not argue this. Rather, they argue that that species evolved but were originally “designed” by something or someone. Of course, their ideology still does not qualify as science because they can provide no scientific evidence said “designer” exists.
> Some said that creationism was just made up by
> man, well so was evolution,
Not true. The theory that species evolved was *deduced* from evidence. Creationism was devised by the whims of the biblical writers. There is a vast difference.
> if you bothered to do any
> research before spouting off about how horrible Creationism
> is you would find out that it has just as much scientific
> backing as you think evolution does.
> Read about the Bible
> why you are at it too, it has NEVER been proven
> historically wrong, I will repeat NEVER been proven to be
> historically wrong, you might not believe in God, but you
> can’t deny the historical accuracy of the Bible, and to
> those who are thinking that you’ll prove me wrong about the
> Bible try coming up with a credible source. And to the
> person that brought Hitler into the subject great job at
> making yourself sound like a jerk.
Really. Well, let’s see, the writers of the bible believed in a flat earth. The bible claims that a farmer built a boat and put all the worlds species (which would count in the billions and weigh in the hundreds of thousands of tons) onto it and waited out a flood. The bible is a collection of stories that relate to the events that occurred at the time to teach the readers about their religion. It was not meant to be taken literally.
The UC was absolutely right in rejecting these pseudoscience courses from being passed off as science.