As the article quotes, “It’s an ideological campaign. It has nothing to do with public health.” Either the government is trying to create sexcrime precedents, or the anal-retentive prudes are flexing their muscles.

Now the government is targeting unmarried adults up to age 29 as part of its abstinence-only programs, which include millions of dollars in federal money that will be available to the states under revised federal grant guidelines for 2007.

The government says the change is a clarification. But critics say it’s a clear signal of a more directed policy targeting the sexual behavior of adults.

“They’ve stepped over the line of common sense,” said James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit that supports sex education. “To be preaching abstinence when 90% of people are having sex is in essence to lose touch with reality. It’s an ideological campaign. It has nothing to do with public health.”

Aren’t there real issues for this administration to tackle?



  1. the dude says:

    Whats next, trying to ban masturbation?

  2. ECA says:

    Dogs are doing WHAT in the yard???

    Little girl to daddy:
    Daddy, what is our dog doing to the neibhors??
    Daddy:
    AWww, Ummmm, ???????????????????

  3. Lauren the Ghoti says:

    If someone had told George and Bar about abstinence, maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess.

  4. 20. That’s total, complete, BS!

    –Mark Foley

  5. WokTiny says:

    #11 This is not about christianity
    Christianity preaches sex, after marriage, and its very good!

    #17 watch who you call a fool.
    ‘responsible’ sex still leads to these things. “but I loved him” or a condom doesn’t keep the girl from getting pregnant (not 100% reliable) or a VD (not at all reliable)

    #21 some already say its evil.

    #20 the answer is really to have everyone married at 14 ;)

  6. WokTiny says:

    #19 IF you hide it, you have some KID tearing things apart trying to FIND IT.

    so you’re saying it is not the kid’s fault?

    that sounds a whole lot like the cat/meat analogy we heard about last week.

    you really want to go there?

  7. Lee says:

    I tend to think that anyone who is unable to understand the blazingly obvious lessons of history, (i.e. prohibition of any desirable thing leads to nothing besides irresponsible and violent behavior) are the very definition of fools. God gave you discernment and understanding so that you could use them, not cover them in Earth out of fear, and I won’t hesitate to call anyone who discards the gifts of God out of blind obedience to some man or group of men exactly what they are.

  8. RBG says:

    20. People have to suppress and repress their sexual desires and a lot of other all-consuming desires all the time. That’s part of being a responsible adult where delayed gratification is a primary feature. (eg: saving for retirement.)

    And at some point, responsible, rational adults are going to have to look at sex for what it is: a mechanism for initiating new life – and less about a good time, propaganda that is rampant in our society. There’s your birth control.

    If you are right then you should run for NRA president and push for more guns in our society so guys can more easily let off their pent up frustrations on the range.

    Women are rightfully fearful of men constantly surrounding themselves with sex. I recall an Andrew Dice Clay “performance” where the female employees stated they were fearful for their safety after it. I’m sure they were worried a lot more about the kind of men leaving that auditorium than the kind of men leaving a church.

    RBG

  9. ECA says:

    26,
    yep…
    Unless you wish to go back to the 1800′s…
    And look at the Problems thay had..
    Rape, Incest, child molestation, would rise…

    You would condem those that Had sex outside of marrage… the scarlet Letter, the Kensey report, and so on.

    As one person said long ago.
    If we were all naked, we could solve ALOT of the crime.

    After you have seen it all, you get BORD of it. If its out there Everyday, you arent so enjoyous of it.
    Many Old world army’s had there Camp followers. They found that if you took away the Sex, you had a MEAN group of men, that Raped and pillaged, and ran off, just to get sex. If you have it Available, the Men were more controlable.

    Sexual tenion can cause MANY to do things that wouldnt if the same was available…

  10. WokTiny says:

    #29 If we were all naked, we could solve ALOT of the crime.

    I’m not sure you understand the full implications of this statement. You seem to only view this as applying to the body, but it is so much more true when you go deeper. If everyone was fully exposed in spirit, that is, their ambitions and fears, desires and wounds, then there would be more healing and less hurting.

    As far as the physical aspect of your statements, and as they apply to your KID/gift analogy, I just don’t remember you arguing on the australian muslim teacher’s side… KID/gift;cat/meat;rapist/woman… what were you really saying there?. I must have missed that post, or just misunderstood where you were going with the KID/gif analogy.

  11. ECA says:

    the point of the gift..
    IS dont hide things from kids or others…
    If they got a question ANswer it…
    If they want to know something Explain it.

    When you keep things a mistory, Mankind has a tendancy to WANT TO OPEN it, find out WHY they cant see it, do it, or anything.

  12. Lee says:

    You notice how we have one group on here that consistently addresses the others points, with reason, logic, and historical example, and another group that answers with talking points and “faith based” (i.e. infallible and fact free) answers, all while ignoring the points of their opposition. In other words, we have one group who is trying to debate, and thus get at the truth, and another group that is so confident of their rectitude that they just bloviate. Let us remember the words of Kung-Tzu: Only the most wise and the most foolish do not change. I assure you, none of us are the most wise, unless you claim to be Christ rather than merely someone who is putting words in His mouth.



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