High-Def Digest – 10/4/07:

Two of the most eagerly anticipated next-gen releases in recent memory have hit a series of playback snags on select Blu-ray players, but a fix is said to be on the way.

The most severe problems have been reported on Samsung’s BDP-1200 and LG’s BH100, which are both said to be incapable of playing back the discs at all. Less catastophic issues (error messages and playback stutter) have been reported for Samsung’s BDP-1000. The discs appear to play back fine on all other Blu-ray players (including the PlayStation 3), although users have reported lengthy load times of up to two minutes.

It has been widely speculated that these issues stem from the use of BD+ copy protection on the two discs.

One of my maxims in life is to only buy what works, not what is promised to work. It appears that in this wonderful new world filled with so many promises I’ll never be able to buy a Blu-Ray player.

And before the Sony fan-boys pipe in, I know there will be a fix, but, 1. it’s absurd that we should ever have to patch an appliance, and 2. it’s only a matter of time before Sony uses this to force people to buy to newer models.

“Sorry, no firmware patch this time, but feel free to check out our selection of new Blu-Ray players.”

And BTW, that “matter of time” will be soon after the HD-DVD format dies and we have no other option. Expect to buy a new Blu-Ray player every couple of years.



  1. ECA says:

    Umm,
    Its fun to think that the main problem comes with the AMOUNT OF RAM many of these players NEED to play.
    I would Think the better ones would have a HD installed and load MOST of the data onto the drive to play it.
    Iv seen DIRECT to display and some with Very little ram.. And thats where you start having problems..

  2. ECA says:

    http://tinyurl.com/3ab9q6
    I Kinda like THIS idea…But hate the Vista part.

  3. jlm says:

    Is it really worth all that trouble when you can just get a regular dvd player and stop buying into the alternative formats? Sure the picture is a little better, but who gives a crap, its still the same movie

  4. Tsavo says:

    True ‘nuf.

  5. Mister Mustard says:

    >>Is it really worth all that trouble when you can just get a regular
    >>dvd player and stop buying into the alternative formats? Sure the
    >>picture is a little better, but who gives a crap, its still the same movie

    ***Bingo!***

    Bricked players, audio and video stutter and playback problems, load times of up to two minutes???

    I wonder how long it will be until this technology can go out as a beta release, I wonder? It sure as shit isn’t ready for prime time. Most of the Hollywood crap they release isn’t ready for prime time either.

  6. Les says:

    On local stations I have noticed a decrease on Blu-ray disks for sell, and an increase for HD-DVD. I have a computer that can play the later, but I have not bought any titles in those 2 formats. Of course I haven’t bought any dvd titles either. Has to do with something called money? Anybody hear of this “concept” called money? 😉

  7. Steve S says:

    SN Wrote:
    “And BTW, that “matter of time” will be soon after the HD-DVD format dies and we have no other option.”

    SN, How did you come to the conclusion the HD DVD would soon disappear? I suspect that both formats will continue to exist for a very long time ,as will the true dominant format, plain old DVD. Even if one of them becomes more dominant, it is uncertain if the other will disappear before they are both made obsolete by the next “great” thing. As for me, participating in the Blu-Ray or HD DVD player experiment is so far down on my list of priorities that it will probably never happen.

  8. OhForTheLoveOf says:

    #3 and #6 – Count me in for support of your position.

    DVD – because it works

  9. Mister Mustard says:

    >>Has to do with something called money? Anybody
    >>hear of this “concept” called money?

    Yep. I spend it all the time! I prefer to spend it on things that I consider to be of some value, however; and being an alpha tester for hardware companies, watching crap that I wouldn’t even bother watching in regular-resolution, doesn’t quite cut the MUSTARD.

  10. edwinrogers says:

    Optical is over. Who needs it, when you have broadband?

  11. dvdchris says:

    I will never buy into these new formats.
    Just get a $75 upconverting DVD player. Ta-da! Your DVDs you already own are upconverted into simulated HD which most of you can’t tell from ‘real’ HD-DVD or Blu-ray anyway.
    True, movies from older masters may not look that better but newly produced films and remastered films look amazing.
    On regular DVD.

  12. OhForTheLoveOf says:

    #11 – I can’t file broadband in my library… and I like quality and permanence. Optical isn’t over. It is far from over. Just because some people think culture is made of disposable things doesn’t mean we should all feel that way.

  13. Mr. Fusion says:

    Yup. I’m happy with my SD DVD on my SD TV in my SD LR.

    Now, if I had a High Definition DVD playback to pump through my High Definition Television in my High Definition Living Room, I might give a hoot. But I don’t so I don’t.

  14. hhopper says:

    DRM is the real problem regardless of format. DRM screws everything up.

  15. James Hill says:

    #5 – Yes, you’re an idiot. You didn’t need to prove it again.

    A trip through AVSForum.com will show that many early adopters have steered clear of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, focusing on upconversion and networking.

    Focus on buying a decent HD set, tuner, and sound system. You can get the HD content off the ‘net.

  16. Rod Z says:

    Hey SN, HD DVD players have had issues as well, along with HD DVD combo discs. There’s no news here.

  17. tt says:

    Plain old dvd works fine


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