WTC 7 collapse vs controlled demolition take down

Unleashed: Unanswered 9/11 questions

The collapse of New York’s World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001 is arguably one of the most well documented events in human history. Less well documented is the controversy over why the buildings fell as they did.

At the time of writing, 357 architectural and engineering professionals have signed a petition which directly challenges the National Institute of Standards & Training’s official finding that the destruction of these massive buildings was caused solely by structural damage from the impact of jet airliners and the resulting fires.
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Current research indicates that an incendiary (thermite) may have been used to sever the massive box columns of the towers, causing the buildings to plummet to the ground at close to free-fall speed.
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“As no reports have come to light of any steel framed buildings collapsing due to fire, and as all steel framed buildings which had collapsed had done so due to explosive demolition, the logical way to have started the investigation of this surprising event would have been to question whether explosives had been used. This apparently did not occur.

William Rodriguez, an acknowledged hero of 9/11 who single-handedly rescued fifteen people from the North Tower, described a massive explosion in the basement which occurred before the first plane struck, pushing him upwards out of the seat of his chair.

The New York Fire Department’s oral histories project contains 118 witness statements which are strongly consistent with explosive demolition. Incredibly, none of this shocking testimony was included or acknowledged in any official investigation, including the 9/11 Commission.

If the towers were wired with explosives by terrorists prior to the planes, that would imply a lack of security on a massive scale that would be worth hiding. On the other hand, how do you hide that much work to rig buildings like that? If terrorists didn’t do it, why would the towers be rigged with explosives? Leaving aside the wacko’s government conspiracies, are other buildings routinely wired to blow to bring them straight down if something happens to prevent them falling onto other buildings? An interesting ‘protection’ scenario for the neighborhood that would be worth hiding for many reasons.

And then there’s this article from a few months ago with quotes from military experts like this one:

“A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible,” said Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret). With doctoral degrees in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Col. Bowman served as Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.

“There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up,” continued Col. Bowman. “Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible. Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.”




  1. Mr. Gawd Almighty says:

    #451, EE,

    What you fail to understand is you keep referring to sites that have either a lot of opinion masquerading as fact or facts that have been totally debunked.

    Give us some evidence. And please, don’t say “look at this site, they have evidence”. Give facts and back that up with citations.

    Don’t bother with the “… well they could have…” That is bullshit.

  2. RBG says:

    EE: We already established that these pilots don’t know what they are talking about in #386 RBG.

    RBG

  3. Empirical Evidence says:

    # 449 Mr. Catshit said, on May 31st, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Hey Zeus H. Christ !!! EE, you are fucking nuts !!! Over 400 posts and you haven’t made any point that hasn’t been thoroughly disputed. Give it up.

    Well Mr. Catshit,

    If you look atop the page here, you’ll see a split screen video of two buildings collapsing. One of them is your standard demolition job and the other is due to causes that are at present unknown… no, let’s say “Gawd only knows why the other collapsed.”

    You see, nearly seven years after this event, no official explanation has been offered… but Gawd has it all figured out… the cracked foundation that only he can see, the raging fires that appear to everyone else to be small flames flickering in a few windows…

    But hey, y’all believe in Gawd don’t you? Just because “The Experts Are Starting To Say The 9/11 Conspiracy Wackos May Be Right” you’ll surely not be so audacious as to question his word when he says “There’s nothing to see here folks, just move along.”

    Somehow, personally, I just can’t make that leap of faith… I see nothing in that video that allows me to distinguish between the cause of the two collapses. But who an I to deny Gawd and his disciple RBG a fair opportunity to convert me to belief in the One True Story of 9/11?

  4. RBG says:

    EE: Yes, it is your complete right to pretend the evidence predicting the WTC7 collapse in 157 RBG never happened. Just don’t then ask the rest of us to spend our money on more of the same in another expensive investigation.

    RBG

  5. cedirc beedlebug says:

    we all know that it was an inside job, OBL had nothing to do with it, he’s with the yanks, its all just a cover up, germany did the same to start world war, america has done it before. when gwb gets jailed or the death penalty because of this, then you will all realize, we are all pawns in the american plans for THE NEW WORLD ORDER. we need to fight it or we all perish.

  6. T Trimper says:

    The worst thing about conspiracy “theories” is that they make those asking valid questions, outside the accepted narrative, sound like CT nutjobs as well.

    There is no evidence to change the narrative of 9/11. What there *is* evidence of and are needed are answers to two valid questions:

    1) Why were the fighter jets kept on the ground instead of intercepting the hijacked airplanes? When Payne Stewart’s private airplane lost contact with the ground in 1999, fighter jets were scrambled within minutes, yet the US military couldn’t be bothered to send them up for three hijacked passenger jets?

    2) George Putz and his cabinet *knew* there was a pending attack, their own government documents told them when, where and how. Were they merely incompetent and asleep at the wheel, or did they let it happen to justify invading other countries to steal oil, as per those in the “Project For A New American Century” (e.g. William Kristol, Richard Perle) had been advocating?

    Let’s deal with the facts before going on flights of fancy.

  7. supreme teller of knowledge says:

    Why would Bush blow up the place on a weekday/workday? Obviously he would have no motivation to maximize the death toll, but rather to minimize it by blowing it up on a Sunday or a major holiday. I love how the same people that tell us to tolerate everyone and everything in our society today, have the cahonas to judge George Bush, whom they do not know. I used to be a friend and neighbor of the Bushes back in Dallas, and I can tell you that there is nothing in George’s character that would allow him to murder anyone. Although the idea of filling the towers with a convention of self-important leftist liberals would tempt some to light the fuse.

  8. psikeyhackr says:

    I find it really disgusting that my reaction to what has happened since 9/11 has become one of laughter.

    Curiously the World Trade Center was destroyed 70 years after the completion of the Empire State Building. The ESB was designed and constructed without the use of electronic computers. They did not exist.

    But SEVEN YEARS after the destruction of the WTC most people in the nation that put men on the moon can’t think to ask the TONS of STEEL and TONS of CONCRETE on every level of the towers. It is impossible to build a skyscraper that tall and heavy without figuring that out before even digging the hole for the foundation. A building that expensive must be costed out pretty well before the investors put up the money.

    So when the airliner hit the building two things happened. The plane punched a hole doing structural damage and the building was pushed off center starting an oscillation. The NIST says the south tower oscillated for FOUR MINUTES after impact and the 70th floor deflected by 12 inches even though it was 130 feet below the point of impact. It took a lot of energy to shake that building! So it is impossible to compute the amount of energy that did structural damage without computing how much shook the tower and that cannot be computed without knowing the distribution of mass.

    In only two places in their entire 10,000 page report does the NIST say the distribution of weight or mass are necessary to analyze what happened to the buildings but that should be obvious from the very nature of skyscrapers. This is a physics problem so simple that high school students should have been able to figure out in a few months that airliners could not do that to buildings that size in so little time. For this to go on for SEVEN YEARS in the nation that put men on the moon is HILARIOUS. I just can’t maintain angry indignation any longer.

    One would think that even the liberal arts morons in the media would be able understand the importance of the distribution of steel and concrete in a skyscraper by now.

    psik

    PS – I went to one of Gage’s seminars and emailed him in 2007. He is not talking about the distribution of mass in the towers and explaining its importance. With the computing power available today he should be able to compute what the distribution of steel had to be. What kind of computers did they have in the early 60s?

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  10. Masteraceman123 says:

    national geographic just released a new documentary detailing their own efforts at debunking 911 conspiracy theories, more comments and a new 911 investigation needed.

  11. Laszlo says:

    The heat of the fires were measured before collapse. The measured temps did not reach nearly enough to soften the steel. Although it could have been measured improperly. Other evidence is that people were able to walk right past the collision point and down the stairs into the lobby at the bottom floor, where a firefighters and others witnessed explosions. A woman was standing on top of the impact point. Not enough heat to harm her, not enough heat to harm steel…

    Also, it was a TOTAL collapse of three buildings. This should never happen due to fire.

  12. Hbomb says:

    The fires burned at approx 1100 degrees. This has been proven by Popular Mechanics and National Geographic to be more than hot enough to weaken the steel to the point that it lost its structural integrity. Given that so many of the steel columns were detroyed by the impact of the planes, I find it inconceivable that anyone is stupid enough to believe in the idiotic controlled demolition theory. This building collapsed because it lost its integrity. At that point, gravity took over. ‘

    As far as the free fall speed crap…what do you expect? The building collapsed at the spped you would expect regardless of what the controlled demo idiots think.

    • not amused says:

      You sound like a typical zionist shill. i suppose you believe that the iraq and afghan wars were justified, legal, and in the interest of US national security? i wipe my as with pop mechanics. the evidence that 9/11 was a false flag attack orchestrated by mossad far outweighs the evidence supporting the official conspiracy story. Mossad and Israel has a long history of conducting such attacks and… wait for it… blaming arabs. try looking outside the box, you will not find any of this info in the zionist controlled media as it would implicate their handlers and possibly themselves in this horrific act and bring the whole thing crashing down…at near free fall speeds.

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