‘Titanic’ Discovery was Actually Part of Navy Undersea Operation to Find Lost Nuclear Subs. Public Bamboozled as Usual.

Like it or not, aside from space exploration, the military has forwarded a great number of advances in technology and knowledge. The advantage of a large budget I guess.

Quite frankly, I’m glad. What possible reason could the US government have for funding an exploration to find a British ship that sank closest to Canada, that never even entered a US port?

This fact was known years ago. I believe they were looking at the Thresher to see what the condition of the reactor core was. I believe they also looked for another sub also. This story isn’t new.

I thought this was a blog of current events?
Here’s a link from May of 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,358029,00.html

Has someone had too many truffles?

How is this news? It was mentioned as part of the National Geographic special on finding the Titanic. Or does the fact that it finally came to your attention make it news?

The US Navy has an academic history to be very, very proud of. As do others, but the US in particular seems to have, at an early stage in it’s history, embraced humanist philosophical attitudes to educating it’s personnel in as broad and encompassing way as possible. I think the French, rather than British influence may have lent to this.

This news is like a year old. Epic fail.

# 5 roger dodger said,
…This blog and the whole Internet would not exist if it wasn’t for the US military wanting to build a network that could survive nuclear attack. Google for ARPANET if you don’t believe it.

This is true, but I believe had the military and academic types not originated the Internet, someone eventually would have, as people have a desire for this kind of universal communication system.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/robert_ballard_on_exploring_the_oceans.html

good talk about oceanic exploration… i didn’t Tiny-ize the URL so you can see what you are clicking… I hope that it’s not too ugly.

the part where he says “we were looking for something and found something else” makes more sense now.

There were rumors back when the Titanic was found. Why do you think the Russians had these deep sea submersibles also? If you look real hard and put the pieces together all the answers are there.

As for Iraq, I think even Obama is beginning to understand what the real reason behind it is, at least I can only hope he gets it.

It’s a blog. Get over it. There is a reason we have a posting guideline that will get comments deleted that say… “I heard about this a year ago!”

In this case the story is about Ballard’s recent comments. They were made last week. So that’s not possible!

And all news is old news. It’s old 5 minutes after it happens. If I do “Lincoln Assassinated” then maybe you have a complaint.

#22 – Brenda Lee

Here’s a washcloth. Get that foul brown matter off of your nose. It keeps reappearing.

Yeah? SO? This info is 10 years old. Everyone knew he was working for the US Navy Dept when he was looking for the Titanic.
This is old news.

#13 – Ah_Yea – Thanks for posting that info! I had never heard of that incident. Scary stuff.

#22 – John C Dvorak
“In this case the story is about Ballard’s recent comments. They were made last week. So that’s not possible!”

I love this blog. Really do. But the story and headline focused on the revelation of the true intent of the missions that found the Titanic. Even the second link in the post went to a Fox News article from 5/25/08. Even the first link revealed little new info from those recent comments. This was bound to happen. But I’ll admit I charged into the article like many others here. Sorry. Really.

And amazing story nonetheless. The tech, the mission, the Titanic, the missing subs. All of it.

What I find interesting is that the two nuclear subs sounded like they were found in little tiny pieces. I would have liked to hear more about why they couldn’t find these subs with a Geiger Counter.

“Thresher, had imploded deep beneath the surface and had broken up into thousands of pieces and Scorpion was almost as completely destroyed.”

Someone help me understand why we shouldn’t be concerned about the nuclear material at the bottom of the ocean.

Funny, this was all in Ballard’s book “Explorations: A life of underwater adventure” that was published in 1995.

“Everything we do seems to be part of a military or intelligence operation.”

And it’s made our economy so much the stronger, for it, hasn’t it? NOT! Congrads John, your catching on. The Soviet Union went into financial ruin, devoting too much Rubles to its military industry. At least way more than it could afford. But that may have been what was planned by the US, during the Cold War.

And yet, even with the Soviets being so weakened. The US continued to spend all it could for its military industry. Declaring just about every other superpower (allies and enemies) as potential threats. and justifying the huge military build up during Reagan and Bush’s reign, to basically take on the whole damn world.

Naturally, there needed to be lot of propaganda to support this. And thus there were tons of movies, like “Red Dawn”, “Hunt for Red October” and “Amerika”. And some James Bond movies too. Continuing to paint a gloomy picture for the US, should it not finance every stealth sub, stealth bomber, and super carrier.

“‘I can only tell you now because they declassified this a few months ago.’”
That’s a load of bull. This has been generally know for a couple of years now. Ballard even mentioned it in some documentary about the Titanic. So how could it be a secret, he never talked about until recently? I think he’s got his cover stories (aka LIES) confused.

And as for “Everything we do seems to be part of a military or intelligence operation.” being covered up by the press and film industry. Back when the US was taping in on the Soviet Navy’s underwater communication cables, they built those two DSRVs to do the job. But movies like “Gray Lady Down” (w/ Charlton Heston) were produced to promote them as strictly rescue vehicles. Yet there were highly top secret, and built by an aerospace contractor, not a navy sub contractor. And this came out it a Discovery Channel documentary, some years ago. Even the movie “Raise the Titanic” was a bit of pre-Ballard propaganda. Produced to promote the notion that recovery of said vessel, was a possible cold war defense project, to recover some radioactive ore. Since then, this movie has scarcely ever been rerun or heard of. The Ballard project killed the need for its cover story premise.

And the list goes on… “Firefox” (w/ Clint Eastwood) preceded the B2 stealth bomber’s public exposure. Claiming the Russians had a stealth aircraft first. And Northrup released its own documentary on their first flying wing. Seen only on DC PBS stations, just prior to the B2 going public, because its funding was cut. And yet several were built anyway.

And I doubt I could keep up with all the crap that Tv shows like “24″, “JAG”, “NCIS”, and “The Unit”, have shoveled about military threats, policies, and capabilities. But a Pentagon office edits and approves every script. Read Operation Hollywood by David L. Robb (at Amazon.com).

How like the US film industry is to that of Germany’s during the Nazi regime. Kowtowing to the war machine’s every whim. And yet the mostly Jewish dominated industry still wants us all to remember the Nazis, so it “doesn’t happen again.” Ignoring their current role in
producing propaganda films.

I saw the documentary too, John. Even if I hadn’t I don’t get it. I find nothing surprising about the USN being interested in this technology. The loss of the Thresher and Scorpion, were quite tragic and deserve an in depth investigation.