George Carlin Lives On

Published on March 29th, 2009

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# 1 Buzz said, on March 29th, 2009 at 9:49 am

“Nobody seems to notice; nobody seems to care…”

While listening to Carlin rant is sensitizing, often ironical and worth thinking about, let’s face it, he was not 100% accurate in his appraisal.

# 2 The Pirate said, on March 29th, 2009 at 9:55 am

He doesn’t need to be 100% accurate.

# 3 MrVendetta said, on March 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am

Definitely true well said.

# 4 Carcarius said, on March 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am

Carlin was, and still is, great.

# 5 BillM said, on March 29th, 2009 at 11:09 am

I don’t think I saw it anywhere……does anyone know when this was recorded? Material-wise, it could have been anytime in the last 50 years!

# 6 sargasso said, on March 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am

Wonderful, how universally appealing and accurate this is.

# 7 RBG said, on March 29th, 2009 at 11:34 am

Yes, yes. The politicians don’t want education.

The politicians have the judges and the media in their back pockets.

They want to keep people in the most meaningless jobs possible. The politicians only care about themselves.

I wonder if there ever could be a way to make a buck out of paranoid rantings? I mean if you make them half-way funny? I wonder if there are people who would willingly turn off their minds and just eat that stuff up?

Apparently so.

RBG

# 8 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 11:36 am

“What we need is a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.” ///

And thats exactly why we are so screwed.

# 9 noname said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

How are we going to be critical thinkers when we don’t have a reliable and accurate press or media?

Once the media started allowing distortion of reality of the news with spin and lies by politicians, businessman and other interest groups; Americans, cease to be critically informed citizens and have instead became sycophants to TV’s talking heads and Murdochian viewpoints.

I don’t think the internet is a sufficient antidote to this. The internet is rightly not deemed reliable and accurate by the vast majority.

We are screwed.

# 10 Stars & Bars said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Your owners do not want you to see this documentary.

Watch “The Obama Deception”

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Don’t believe what you see?

http://obamadeception.net/articles.html

[Please drop the WWW from URLs as WordPress doesn't display it properly... plus it's unnecessary. - ed.]

# 11 Stars & Bars said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:07 pm

http://obamadeception.net/articles.html

[Thank you. - ed.]

# 12 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

To the question asked: “Do we have choice?” The answer is yes. Carlin got the answer correct but the question/issue wrong. Corporations do not control this country. They wouldn’t spend those millions on Congress if they did. There is no concerted effort, no collusion, only a bunch of people similarly motivated: to make as much money as possible. Poor people are motivated to that end as are rich people. Rich people can bribe Congress, poor people can’t.

The winning strategy as Carlin also rants about elsewhere is Congress pimping the voting public by appeals to: guns, bibles, and children. You could add a few more like “fair trade” and “taxation is theft” to give a fuller picture.

The American Public is too full of bullshit thinking, religious thinking, misplaced self centered thinking, to think critically about how they are best served and voting appropriately.

“Basically” anyone voting Republican votes against their own self interests. Retarded in a real way. Mislead. Blind.

If you make $150,000 per year and vote to have the inheritance tax removed or even lowered – you are retarded and self destructive, yet your vote counts just as much as anyone who has the best interests of America critically in mind.

If the any thought of George Carlin struck you as “thats right” take a step back and look at how you vote. Don’t be who George Carlin talked about.

# 13 hhopper said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

Carlin told the truth about as well as it can be told. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

# 14 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

#9–noname==”How are we going to be critical thinkers when we don’t have a reliable and accurate press or media?” /// hah, hah. Yeap, how can we be critical thinkers if the media doesn’t tell us what to think. Good one.

Just noticed the NSFW header. Was that added later for the humor or the sincere warning? But yes. 99% of business owners wouldn’t like this message even though they are victims of it like the rest of us.

# 15 exileguy said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

Social commentary is never completely accurate, because it comes from thought & emotion. Emotion always colors facts, it can’t be helped, it is the way it is.
George Carlin had the knack to see through immense piles of bullshit and get to the point.
And the point is, we are controlled by those things that make us comfortable, the toys that keep us occupied so we don’t have to think, and the things we are allowed to buy that everyone else has.
We trade our freedoms and curiosity to be content, and we miss what is happening around us, so we don’t have to do anything about it.

# 16 RTaylor said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

It’s been the same way for millenniums, what make you think it’s going to change? All a revolution does is change the players. It’s the nature of the beast.

# 17 emhodew said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

bobbo,
Have you closed your eyes and ears? What do you think the dems are doing now? Repealing all the rebublican attacks on our freedom? No they are expanding on them. In fact if you look back, it was the dems who started the attacks on our freedoms. Look at the relationship between Roosevelt and Stalin.
Look at all the socialistic plans Roosevelt started.
If you vote for a professional politician, you are voting against your own self interest. That is why the rebuplicans and dems have destroyd every 3rd party that ever popped up.
It may well be too late for the republic our forefathers fought and died for.
Until the common “man” (woman) stands up and demands their God given rights, the professionals will walk all over us.

# 18 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

#17–emhodew==I agree its both parties, but the Repuglicans really are worse, leading the way. What has happened is the worst of either party being adopted by the other party. Dems now takes bribes and pass Repuglican business interests while the Repugs pass social spending programs with deficit spending.

Vote against republican policies/anti sound social policies regardless of which party puts them forward.

And, as always: VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE.

# 19 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

#10–Stars and Bars==I think Obama’s keeping the Bank Structure in Place (rebuilding the bubble) and increasing the troop levels in Afghanistan are both very troubling and either one could sink his presidency, “but” its a bit early to be writing/filming his obituary.

Bias so strong, it stinks.

Where is the media that will tell me what to think (better?).

The very same video a year from now may show this one to be prescient, but right now it is silly.

# 20 some guy said, on March 29th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Talk like this is enough to get somebody killed.
Wait a minute, isn’t he . . . .

# 21 ECA said, on March 29th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

with a happy work environment, and a happy life, and a happy EVERYTHING, crime would go down..
So why foster, ignorance?
So you dont see that CRIME PAYS.
IF you can show that WHAT is happening IS’ happening, you can bring it to court..but you AINT GOT THE MONEY/POWER/ability to FIND those ones on the top responsible for what is happening.

# 22 Alfred1 said, on March 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

Carlin is essentially correct, critical thinking is systematically excluded from our education…but not because of the rich…

Liberals control education…

When Jindal proposed critical thinking be taught contrasting creation/evolution, the liberals rose up against critical thinking…as they have done…

they have successfully demonized capitalism in schools and culture…the rich would never do that.

I was just watching DeepSpace 9…the demon like Ferengi is the “businessman”, everyone else are socialists, albeit, unlike real life (Cuba, Russia, China) its made to appear a successful economic model…it isn’t, and never will be, it goes against human nature to be a good commie.

# 23 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

#22–Alfred==what in your critical thinking skills concludes that the increasing wealth disparity between the top 1% and the rest of us is sound social policy?

# 24 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

“From 1982 to 1997, the richest 1 percent of Americans captured 56 percent of all the nation’s growth in financial wealth-and 47 percent of all growth in income. As a result, the concentration of wealth in the United States has grown to its highest level since 1929.”

From the first website I could find. It “sounds” biased, but facts are facts?

http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Class_War/Congress_Feeds_Rich.html

# 25 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

#24–emhodew== “bobbo,
What can I say. You have been brainwashed and are in denial.
Obama is the problem.” /// Already Obama is the problem after two months in office?

I wonder just exactly what YOU think the problem actually is?

Please be as specific as possible.

# 26 emhodew said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

Alfred1,
Do you think the “liberals” are poor? They are part the 1% ruling class. It takes money to buy power. And with power you get money.
Yes they control education. They want your critical think skills diminished so you don’t see their power/wealth schemes.
In DS9 the Ferengi were evil not because they were businessmen, but because of their un-ethical business methods. You know, the same methods used by big corperations in this country.

# 27 emhodew said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:19 pm

bobbo,
Obama promised that we would have on open government. All bills would be posted on line for at least 5 days before he signed them.
No bill has been posted on line before he sign them. No bill has lasted 5 days before being signed.
Now the health care commission is being set up in such a way that they do not have to have open meetings.
What do you think this means?
I saw this coming over 25 years ago.
Not the specific events, but the direction. I have been railing against the public school system and it’s failing policies for the last 25 years. I said then what George is saying. They don’t want us to be able to have higher level cognitive abilities. No philosophy or reasoning for the average people. Of course their children don’t go to public schools. Neither do mine.

# 28 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

#27–emhodew==well done, thank you, “but:”

1. Obama promised that we would have on open government. All bills would be posted on line for at least 5 days before he signed them.
No bill has been posted on line before he sign them. No bill has lasted 5 days before being signed. /// So the problem we are facing today is that bill have not been available on line in the past and are still not available today???? Is THAT what you think bunky or did you post juuuuuuuussst a little bit too fast. Then of course, what will you “think” a month from now when all bills are posted – - problem solved?

2. Now the health care commission is being set up in such a way that they do not have to have open meetings.
What do you think this means? /// Havent seen this yet. What where the stated reasons for the closed process? All depends on their final product doesn’t it? A bad plan from an open process is not valued over a good plan from a closed process. As all our laws so far have been made in a closed process, I wonder what you think an open process really is? Can you verbalize that? Really rather silly when you start to analyse that.

3. I saw this coming over 25 years ago. /// hah, hah. I’m sure you did. What “this” are you referring to?

4. Oh, sorry. “This” is: Not the specific events, but the direction. I have been railing against the public school system and it’s failing policies for the last 25 years. /// So Obama is responsible for the direction of failing of the public school system for the past 25 years huh? Even when he was going to school in Indonesia? Wow. I’m surprised he even ran for president, he should have just assumed the office when he felt like it.

I sure hope you think about how silly you sound. Try again. Take overnight and post something on the road to reasonable the next chance you get.

# 29 emhodew said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

bobbo,
As I said. You have been brainwashed and are in denial.

You will not look askew of anything you God Obama does or says.
The problem is he is just a figurehead.

The ruling elite have been working to destroy our freedoms a very long time.

# 30 Alfred1 said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

# 23 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

#22–Alfred==what in your critical thinking skills concludes that the increasing wealth disparity between the top 1% and the rest of us is sound social policy?

You cherry picked this to speak against Critical thinking education in schools…

why not cite it against condoms…it has the same relevance…

Critical thinking allows us to see through the lies of both Politicians…and advertising…

Spot the non sequiturs used to sell ideas and products.

# 31 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

#29–emhodew==does that coolaide taste so good you can’t even read a single thread?

bobbo,
As I said. You have been brainwashed and are in denial. /// Yes, condemn whatever/however you decide is in some kind of opposition. It won’t even matter if the specifics you finally cough up are devoid of rationality==kinda like the Repuglican Budget Plan. yuk, yuk.

You will not look askew of anything you God Obama does or says. /// You are a new poster and haven’t read my early and often criticism of Obama: he is rebuilding the bubble and sending troops to Afghanistan==both bad. But even in this very limited thread, I have said nothing supporting Obama AND I have posted: VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE.

The problem is he is just a figurehead. /// Yes, thats always good for a vague conspiracy theory. You aren’t a conspiracy nut are you emhodew?

The ruling elite have been working to destroy our freedoms a very long time. /// Oops, I see that you are.

Ok===no rational discourse, no connection to facts, no logical dialectic. Continue the Rant.

# 32 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

#30–Alfred==when the crescendo of an argument is a reference to the Ferengi the entire orientation of the poster is suspect. But, ignoring that – - –

Liberals control edumaction? – - ok, I’ll go with that but fyi, no liberal I would respect controls education, but we’ll save that for another thread.

One of my favorite non-sequitors that George Carlin actually riffs on quite successfully: Violate gods wishes and he will send you to hell for eternity – - – but he loves you. Yes, good sound critical thinking for our schools.

# 33 emhodew said, on March 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

bobbo,
Look at the moral principles our leaders exhibit. Do you really think they would do anything for someone other than themselves?
Do you really trust people like that to make the kind of changes they propose in secret? For that matter why would they want to do this in secret?
What would they have to hide if what they are doing is going to be so good for everyone. You can call me a conspiracy nut. But if you wait for the results to judge the plans, you will find yourself behind the 8 ball every time.

# 34 Eemanyouel Cant said, on March 29th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

If you take the world’s wealth and divide it evenly among the world’s inhabitants you get about $3,100 per person.

Everyone reading this must be making at least 10X that amount.

I say let the powers-that-be be-fucking-be and thank the ones in power for letting even the lowliest man in America live above poverty and have a working toilet!

# 35 emhodew said, on March 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

bobbo,
“Violate gods wishes and he will send you to hell for eternity – - – but he loves you. Yes, good sound critical thinking for our schools.”
Is not taught in schools, it is taught by the ‘Church’ And I can tell you do not have any children, or have not mastered tough love.
You give children the tools to live a good life, but you can not live it for them. If they do not follow the path you give them, then they might fail.
It is the lack of critical thinking that allows you to miss the real thought so badly mangled in Georges ‘teachings’. God loves you and so gives you free will. (instead of making you a slave) God has laid a path for you to follow. It is narrow, but has some room for divergence. If you deviate from the path you will fall. But because of the free will he gave you he will not stop you from following your own path.

Of course, maybe there is no God. Maybe we are just monkeys swinging from our man made trees.
Then we really need those critical thinking skills to navigate the forest of people we meet and need to deal with.

(BTW, Science fiction was created as a form of social/political commentary. DS9 was a very well written SciFi work that used various races to describe the social behavior of us. It is easier to have a different race exhibit social characteristics. Read the original SciFi work, Gulliver’s Travels. And remember, the British people still do not have free speech)

# 36 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

#35–emhodew==just as right wing nut in religion as you are in politics huh? I wonder which causes which or if they both spring from some other failure?

Well, your rant is too general to deserve a specific response. When you get specific to the degree that facts can be checked, I’ll give it a go. What the schools are doing in general is simply much too vague. We can agree they are failing, but then completely disagree as to why. Too much religion, not enough science or vice versa?

Welcome to DU. You have many soul mates here.

# 37 Alfred1 said, on March 29th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

# 32 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

#30–Alfred==when the crescendo of an argument is a reference to the Ferengi the entire orientation of the poster is suspect. But, ignoring that – - –

Liberals control edumaction? – - ok, I’ll go with that but fyi, no liberal I would respect controls education, but we’ll save that for another thread.

You cherry picked this to speak against Critical thinking education in schools /// I did? Going back I cherry picked economic disparity which I think is THE ISSUE of concern over all others==but you think it is Darwinism being taught as science. Ok.
One of my favorite non-sequitors that George Carlin actually riffs on quite successfully: Violate gods wishes and he will send you to hell for eternity – - – but he loves you. Yes, good sound critical thinking for our schools.

I mention the Ferengi because it reflects our culture…everywhere business people are denigrated as greedy, selfish…and ridiculed as such in late night shows, tv programs, and caricatured in our schools…

But the capitalist system is the greatest vehicle of wealth creation known to mankind, and has lifted more out of poverty than anything in human history. Just look at China before capitalism, and see it now after just a couple of decades…They would all be starving if still trying the socialist model…

Carlin refers to “they who control” to explain why critical thinking is not found in our schools…Its possible I wrongly limited his application, as emhodew pointed out, liberals make up the 1%….

They control Hollywood, are the money behind the Democratic party, and the real force in our schools…

Someone they escape their own demands for equality…not wanting to live as we do…but in Beverly Hills..in mansions…making much more than $250,000 a year…and flying their own jets, not those belonging to any corporation…Why doesn’t Obama chastise them for their greed…clearly emhodew made a sound observation.

As for your last about God, the conclusions is based upon a generalization fallacy.

An analogy. Bobbo says he loves Mary X.

Mary X is drowning and Bobbo swims out to her, lifts her head so she can breathe, and begins taking her to shore. Mary X insists, demands Bobbo let her go, or she will scream rape. She begins hitting Bobbo in the face, slashing at his eyes screaming he should let her go…

Finally, realizing he had no right to overwhelm her free will, Bobbo lets her go and she drowns…

God came in the flesh, died for our sins, all we need do is confess this fact before men…and we are saved…

Yet Bobbo won’t do that…he refuses…

God showed Bobbo nothing but love…he replied with hate…when Bobbo goes to hell, the fault is his own…not God’s.

# 38 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

Alfie==who made the lake and took away my gills?

# 39 ECA said, on March 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

can I get $0.01 per transaction in this country?
how about $0.001…

# 40 deowll said, on March 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

In my community and state they are trying to develop critical thinking skills in the public schools. Subjects that used to wait for high school are now way down in junior high. They want to give their kids and communities a future and they are pushing bleeping hard to get it.

The expected job market for people with the skills Carlin suggested is no more than one if four jobs if that.

Go take an aptitude test for job placement now and see how you do. Unless you are smarter than some of the people posting seem to be the job market bleeps.

Bobbo is a yeller dog Democrat. He’d vote for a yeller dog if that was what ran on the Democratic ticket and justify it somehow.

He may admit that Democrats can do wrong but hand him a list of broken promises and he starts shoving out horse apples. It’s also obvious that as for as he is concerned every real bleep up that has ever occurred had to be because of a Republican.

Republicans have made their fair share of bad choices but they hardly hold a monopoly on making bad choices. If Bobbo could actually see people as individuals and judge them based on their actions rather than party labels he might actually compute.

Will Rogers said that we have the best Congress that money can buy.

This is hardly news. Taking money from people willing to give money is how Congress critters raise money to get elected and part of how they and their families get rich/richer while they are in office. Pork barrel legislation is a major part of how they keep getting re-elected so Obama is going to have no impact on that bombast aside and yes if he doesn’t do something serious to try and reduce the problem I’ll hold that lie against him just as I strongly resent his failure to follow through on his open government promises.

# 41 bobbo said, on March 29th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

#40–deowll==better than most, “but” explain how VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE is a partisan statement?

Must really suck to be so partisan you think everyone else is.

# 42 moshguy said, on March 29th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

George Carlin is one of the few people who I believe speaks any kind of truth.

# 43 Rich said, on March 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am

I believe George espouses all that wonderful truth but caps it with hopelessness (saying essentially there’s nothing you can do about the current situation) because when he passed on he was an older man, at the end of his life and defeated from having spent so much time (apparently) futiley fighting the system. A younger person holding the same values would be quite hopeful and effective. That’s you and me, baby.

# 44 johnrudy said, on March 30th, 2009 at 9:41 am

Answering the question about when this was done, I believe this was “Life is Worth Losing,” or some similar title — 2006 maybe? One of his only recent performances I really liked. (Sadly, sometime in the mid-90s, he went from insanely funny to old man ranting … I still love his 1992 and earlier stuff.)

About all the politics:

It’s time for EVERYONE to get off their high horses. “Repuglicans” and “Dumbocrats” adds nothing to political discourse and makes the name-caller look uneducated and silly. BOTH parties are screwing us with no Vaseline, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future, because WE ALLOW THEM TO. Both parties use splinter issues (”intelligent design” vs evolution, gay rights, abortion, free speech, gun rights, war, a zillion others) to get your vote on ONE point, then screw you on all the others. Neither party represents its constituents (except at the trough during pork feeding time), only their corporate lobbyist masters.

And there’s nothing we can do about it.

Welcome to Hell, folks!

# 45 James Hill said, on March 30th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Did Carlin die because of America’s refusal to accept socialized heath care?

# 46 Stars & Bars said, on March 30th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

#19 bobbo

Glad to see you invested ZERO time in watching the documentary. Talk about FAIL!!!

“The Obama Deception”

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Don’t believe what you watch? It is all documented at the link below.

http://obamadeception.net/articles.html

The documentary is not about Obama! It could just as easily be titled “The Bush Deception”

It’s a documentary about YOUR OWNERS!

# 47 MeSorta said, on March 30th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

Rest In Peace, but never quit, George.
And thanks for all of it.

# 48 karyotypes said, on September 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

But there’s a reason, there’s a reason, there’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education SUCKS and it’s the same reason that it will never ever, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talkin’ about the real owners now. The big, the wealthy, the REAL owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicans, they’re irrelevant. The politicans are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, they’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets, and they own all the big media companies so they control all the news and information you hear. THEY GOT YOU BY THE BALLS! They spend billions of dollars ever year lobbying every year to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everyone else. But I can tell you what they don’t want — they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that, that doesn’t help them, that’s against their interests. That’s right. You know something? They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overthrew 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want OBEDIENT WORKERS. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dumb enough to passably accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the moment you go to collect it. And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it, they’ll get it all from you sooner or later. Cause they own this fucking place. It’s a big club and you ain’t it! You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe, all day long telling you what to believe, what to think, and what to buy. The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people, white-collar, blue-collar, doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on, continue, these are people of modest beings continue to elect these rich cock-suckers who don’t give a fuck about you! They don’t care! At all, at all, at all!

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