Time’s cover story is about the shrinking of the Republican party. This past week, a national poll indicates that those who identify themselves as Republicans has slipped to 31%. A different poll puts the figure even lower: 21%. Fewer woman are identifying themselves as Republicans. Arlan Spector left the party, although his defection may be more of the save your ass kind.

Few doubt the Republicans shot themselves in the foot multiple times these past eight years. While the country may be generally a little right of center, the Republicans can’t get themselves right enough to the exclusion of those who disagree and might vote for someone who isn’t a Dem, but can’t stand their stands. While we’re hardly saying the Dems are shining beacons of purity and light, they do have the WH and Congress, and a much higher number of Americans claiming membership.

Where do you stand on the political spectrum? With which party do you associate yourself? What do you think the Republicans can do to keep from dying out? Should the party die out as others in the past have and be replaced with a center right party? Are the Democrats too far left? Not far left enough?

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  1. Dallas says:

    #7 Alfred_the_loon said: Actually, out of 100 people named Dallas, 84.6% of them.. blah blah”

    According to a real certifiable statistic, the name ‘Alfred’ was somewhat popular up until 1930. This correlates well with you at about 80, with a backwards, out of touch philosophy – aside from being a loony.

    Since early 1930’s, the name declined to a point to now being an embarrassment.

  2. Thomas says:

    There is no “reasonable” party. Most Americans are moderates and there is no party that represents their views. I consider myself fiscally conservative and socially liberal. There is no party that represents those viewpoints. The Democrats lose me when they rack up 2 trillion dollar deficits and the Republicans lose me when they think that condoms are the source of all the world’s woes.

    Sarah Palin is a perfect example what is wrong with the Republicans. There used to be a time when the Republicans were not so loony religious. The day we know the Republicans have changed is the day they put up a candidate that is not Christian. If the Republicans are the party of the uber-rich, where are the uber-rich smart people to run for office (or are they too smart for that)?

  3. qb says:

    #31 The right can’t even manage a funny or clever insult. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs when Palin is the best candidate due to her “lifestyle”. They can’t even manage their own party right now, they are not going to manage a government. Third parties don’t work in the US since Americans prefer to replay the civil war with every election with each side taking turns at being the South.

    Looking at it from the outside, the Republicans remind me Comic Book Guy these days. Now there’s a winning image.

  4. JimD says:

    The party of the GREEDY OBESE PIGS (GOP) is in it’s DEATH THROWS !!! First Specter, and then “Joe the Plumber” are quiting, and now Prick Cheney is ready to DRUM COLIN POWELL OUT OF THE PARTY TOO !!! I guess the “Big Tent” is no more !!! So except for Alan Keyes, they don’t really want the African-American vote !!! (No MILLIONAIRES OR BILLIONAIRES THERE !!!) The GOP – the party of RICH WHITE FASCISTS !!! Good riddance to them !!! May the WANDER IN THE DESERT FOR 400 YEARS !!!

  5. David says:

    I want a party that’s conservative in fiscal matters and supports a free market economy that is regulated by the government for the purpose of strengthening that free market. I also want a party that support stable social institutions, but not at the expense of excluding people. For example, I don’t know whether being gay is a natural phenomenon or a deviation from abuse or brain chemistry anomalies, but I do know that supporting gay marriage/unions would help to stabilize society. Religion is generally good, but it shouldn’t be an excuse to be stupid and ignore reality. Also, I’d like to live in a planet that’s isn’t polluted and constantly at war.

    If I vote democrat, I’m voting for wasteful spending and general disregard for important social institutions. If I vote republican, I’m voting for intolerance, wars, and pollution. Either way, I’m not happy. My strategy has been to vote for the major party not in power to limit the corruption and hope for some kind of balance.

  6. Joe says:

    I registered as a republican, but I’m a social liberal and fiscal conservative. Its hard for me to define myself as simply left or right.

  7. Alfred1 says:

    #36 Be a freedom loving patriot then…defeat statism…victory of the individual over the state..

  8. Alfred1 says:

    #34 Let the door hit Colin Powel in backside as he is forced out the door!

    Goodby dickhead!

  9. Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

    Goodby dickhead!

    What do Republicans say when one of their own dares speak the truth…in contrast to their AM Radio overlord?

  10. qb says:

    Olo. The paranoid on the right think everyone is out to get them (liberals, rinos, urban, press, etc). The reality is that they eat their own young.

  11. Cursor_ says:

    Neither party is going to help. They are all plutocrats owned by the corporations.

    They have no care for the people that make less than 100k a year. Don’t keep being blind.

    Revolution. It is the only hope for the republic. We need to remove all of them and start with a new constitution.

    The republic changed, the government has not and cannot through voting in the same old broken system.

    Real change is revolution.


  12. Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

    qb…and I’m loving it, too. A few years ago when the Dems were in disarray they were all, “shit, we’re all messed up right now.”

    But Rush, with his own self-interests ($$$) at heart, tells his flock they’re in a position of strength. And they’re buying it! LOL

  13. Mr. Fusion says:

    #34 Let the door hit Colin Powel in backside as he is forced out the door!

    Goodby dickhead!

    Yup. There is another reason to vote Republican. Drum one of the most respected men in Washington out of the party will certainly show the kind of party they have.

  14. qb says:

    Olo. It’s just amazing how dense they’ve become. I’m truly hoping they pick Palin for 2012. No end of amusement.

    Fusion. You know when they’re flipping the bird to the most respected Reagan Republican alive today then they’ve lost it.

  15. LotsaLuck says:

    # 34 JimD said, on May 10th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    The party of the GREEDY OBESE PIGS (GOP) is in it’s DEATH THROWS !!! First Specter, and then “Joe the Plumber” are quiting, and now Prick Cheney is ready to DRUM COLIN POWELL OUT OF THE PARTY TOO !!! I guess the …..


    Hey, JimD – where you been? I had finally just gotten my hearing back.


  16. Alfred1 says:


    Death to RINOS! (politically speaking, of course)


    The Republican party will either be a party standing for individual above the state…or its history…

    We don’t want anyone to pander to us…or play identity politics with us…we are Americans, black, white, brown…male, female, even a few other….

    But we want liberty…not a handout…freedom to pursue life, liberty and happiness, without Government regulating us to death or taxing us to give it to people who don’t deserve it.

  17. Traaxx says:

    UncleDavishit is full of it again!

    Another Demoncrat/Commie judgemental NAZI baby muder making up facts to cover his genetic guilt of being white and rich and part of the elite Double Think left. If that is enough name calling maybe you could look at facts.

    Both parties are Globalist anti-middle class. Both parties want to make it a crime to be a nationalist, both parties are anti-American. Looking at President Hussein running around the globe chummy with all the Muslims and America haters is a little sicking. Now we’ve been treated to a Bush holding hands with a Muslim and now President Hussein Obambi has gone of with full body fondling. Disgusting is an understatement.

    Until we get a nationalist party that will run a Presidental candiate we won’t be getting any of our jobs back and we’ll continue to be unendated with trash of the world – adverstised as the Welfare trash that do the jobs Americans won’t – ie sit on Welfare, commit felonies, rape any under tenage that happens to wonder out alone and claim that it’s part of their culture. Bothl the Bushes and Clinton and Obambis are self-serving trash and traitors to this country.



  18. Alfred1 says:

    $43 democrats and democratic leaning respect him…he voted for Obama even though McCain should have been his pick…

    He voted for Obama because of race…

    Nothing wrong with that…but it follows he is a RINO and needs to beat his feet away from us, to you.


  19. Ultra-left, other (Liberal), and as far from Alfie as it is possible to be.

  20. #27 – Alfred1,

    [Sarah Palin] is the embodiment of liberty, her pioneer lifestyle implies freedom from Government…

    Really? Have you not been paying attention? Check out how much debt she ran up in Wasilla. They had none when she became mayor. They had 20 megabucks worth of debt. What kind of freedom from government is that?


    Of course, she must have done something great with the money in a town of around 8,000 people, right?

    “The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22-million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? Or a new library? No. $1-million for a park, $15-million-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex…She also supported bonds for $5.5-million for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 years without any borrowing.”

    Palin is not for what you stand for Alfie, except for the possibly of her being a dominionist.


  21. BubbaRay says:


    For Alfred1, from the “Bubble Boy”, for attempting to turn this blog into the Alfred1 show and generally making a complete fool of himself.

    I will also make certain not one single picture you want posted is ever in-lined here, and that’s for calling me a fascist, you scripture spouting annoyance.

  22. Uncle Patso says:

    # 3 Petrov said, in part:

    “With both parties run by lawyers, does it matter which is in office? What do lawyers know about creating wealth?”

    They seem to do alright for themselves. The only “poor” lawyer I ever met was an ex-lawyer (as in disbarred).

    – – – – –

    This thread is proving to be very interesting reading, a nice representation of much of the political spectrum in America today, including the barely literate and the obsessed. In particular, #17’s analysis of the reasons for the shrinking of the Republican party is the best I’ve seen, better than that of any of the supposed “pundits” on TV and the op-ed page.

  23. #51 – BubbaRay,

    Excellent use of the BRDDA!!

  24. Buzz says:

    How to revitalize the Republican Party:

    Split it.

    Part A are the true conservatives. Paramountly defending the Constitution, individual rights, freedom to choose one’s own path and bodily decisions. Attempting to reduce the size of government wherever prudent. Gracefully slowing the tendency to have government and policy move too fast. Conserving the environment, energy, routine government spending and the use of force to push political agendas. Conservation at all levels. The thoughtful, paced approach.

    Part B are the religious affiliates, believers that somehow God should be involved in politics, spend and don’t tax-ers, waterboarders, slogans-above-reason-ists, Texas-will-secede-rather-than-help-its-unemployed-ers, faith-based-initiativists and creationists.

    Who could argue that people who think religion trumps physics don’t need their own special group?

    Eventually Part B folk will be reduced to the Jesu-Taliban they really are, and Part A folk will grow into their rightful and promising place in American politics. Conserving things.

    By keeping these two under the same umbrella, schizophrenic behavior will continue in all three major categories: positive (i.e. hallucinations, delusions, racing thoughts), negative (i.e. apathy, lack of emotion, poor or nonexistant social functioning), and cognitive (disorganized thoughts, difficulty concentrating and/or following instructions, difficulty completing tasks, memory problems).

    After a while, Part A will rename itself. Candidate names: The Right Party. Classic Republicans. Bob.

  25. bobsyeruncle says:


    Alfred – why do you hate America?

  26. Buzz,

    Nicely stated.

    Minor correction: Conservatives != Conservationists.

    The former is generally opposed to change. The latter are generally trying to preserve the biosphere.

    Now. Can we split the Democratic party too? Or, can we at least bring back the Liberal party so that Modern American Liberals have a representative party as well?

    Better yet, let’s go to a zero party system where we vote for candidates instead of parties.


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