I’m surprised the idiot cop didn’t shoot the guy in the head first, then stop the guy and ask questions! God forbid cops actually think about using reasonable force! The cop needs to be fired, and the PD needs to be sued for medical expenses. Only then may they consider if this cop’s actions were “reasonable”.
Doesn’t matter if the suspect initially ran. At the end, he stopped. At that point, the running tackle was way out of line, like a blatant foul after a play has ended.
Dunno, in this case it looks like an accident. The kid was pointed out by the shopkeeper and took off running.
Its unfortunate and the cop should be disciplined for the way he took him down by slamming him into the wall, but I think this is a case of someone being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
There are two worlds out there. In one you politely ask, “Can I help you officer?”
In the other one you just haul ass. You know the results of public defenders and sitting your ass in jail because they talked you into a plea and you haven’t done a thing.
@bobbo
You must be a boob bobbo if you need more info. The video says it all. Innocent bystander in a coma for not stopping to chat with a big fat pig. I am not “anti-cop” just anti-stupid cop.
I would have run also. Innocent and running. The cop was out-of-line and should be punished for his criminal behavior. The shopkeeper should be sued for pointing out the wrong person. This is more evidence in the on-going class-action case against our out-of-control police forces. The largest class-action case in the history of litigation, it would be. Any care to join in?
Cue the cries that “there must be something more to the story! a cop would never use excessive force on an innocent person!”
What. Ever.
An already determined to be INNOCENT man was running AWAY from cops who likely failed to identify themselves. The cop caught up with the man, and instead of tackling him to the ground, checked him head-first into a concrete wall. He’s probably going to die.
How much more information do you need? This is *excessive* force.
I don’t know about anyone else, but it looks like he wasn’t trying to run too fast, it looks like he realizes its a cop and slows down. I’ve had a cop come up to me to ask questions out on a dark street before, and he never identified himself, they expect you to see the uniform and know.
But seriously? Probable cause? Really? Whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty and the whole SERVE and PROTECT??? The problem is all the people that just shrug this off as “well he must have been doing something to deserve it”, thats why this shit always goes unpunished.
There is not enough information. The clerk may have just pointed down the alley and the cop put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.
I think what it boils down to is the take down. It looks like the kid stopped. If true, then the take down was excessive. If not, then this is simply “shit happens”.
Another reason we need universal healthcare in the country. Sometimes, bad shit happens to good people. To assume that you can go through life and simply sue anyone who makes it less than perfect it insane.
Perhaps he saw video of a young girl removing her shoe getting beaten in her cell, or a guy sitting on the ground getting cuffed having his brains blown out.
I relish law and order. Its the life blood of a healthy society. If you question your survival at the hands of those enforcing “the law” something is going terribly wrong.
Too many of the incidents I see look like police officers treat their actions like sporting events. “If he/she breaks this rule I can……” Very little civic intention it appears.
I am reminded of a few friends and acquaintances of mine from high school that wanted to get into law enforcement. They would fantasize about pulling over traffic violators, and then letting them go or fining them depending on the arse kissing that may happen. Allow them to beat someone and they would gladly, with out exception they had a tendency to be bullies. All of them are now in law enforcement.
I am fortunate enough to live in an area where I trust and know local enforcement, so its not an anti-establishment attitude on my part. It just disgusts me when authority is misused.
More and More and More often after 9-11 the law enforcement agencies of America are becoming above the law and are really nothing but Criminals with a Badge them selves. Other countries in the world find a different way to police than the cowboy tactivs used all across the usa. These guys live for this type of takedown and you dont have to be a former Nasa Employee to be a police officer. I truely believe that many of the Former Soviet Countries now have more freedom than many US Citizens have… Fear Mongering is rife… another sad day for America
Check the cop’s history. I’ll bet you he’s your typical overgrown douche who gets a kick out of the power that comes with carrying a badge. Gives him an excuse to body slam someone half his size. How many professions allow you to slam someone so hard he flies several feet into a wall and into a coma, then allows you to just shrug it off saying, “Hey, I was just following procedure! Now can I go back to eating my donut?”
It’s really unfortunate that we have to fear the police. Don’t accidentally tick one off (or even give him the SLIGHTEST reason to get ticked off) because you might end up finding your life permanently altered. Remember, you the citizen have little or no power in that instance; the big guy with the badge has ALL the power, and your life can literally be in his hands. Hope and pray he isn’t having a bad day or didn’t have too much coffee to drink!
Excessive force. I think this is more and more prevalent because being a cop is a rotten job. I think they are treated like crap and deal with the most rotten dregs of society and it’s making them crazy.
I’m not sure what the solution is, but I think another cause of the problem must have something to do with LAWYERS and the ACLU.
Not enough info. The perp ran after being Id’d as one of the miscreants? Still, I’ll bet the cop said “Hey stop” or whatever.
Cops are that thin blue line AND dysfunctional power mad individuals. Comes down to- – - – what do you expect at a 7-11 after dark?
That fucking cop needs to go to JAIL forever. Excessive force is obvious!
Fucking overzealous piece of crap.
Hockey without the ice.
I’m surprised the idiot cop didn’t shoot the guy in the head first, then stop the guy and ask questions! God forbid cops actually think about using reasonable force! The cop needs to be fired, and the PD needs to be sued for medical expenses. Only then may they consider if this cop’s actions were “reasonable”.
Doesn’t matter if the suspect initially ran. At the end, he stopped. At that point, the running tackle was way out of line, like a blatant foul after a play has ended.
Dunno, in this case it looks like an accident. The kid was pointed out by the shopkeeper and took off running.
Its unfortunate and the cop should be disciplined for the way he took him down by slamming him into the wall, but I think this is a case of someone being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
How can you “anti-cop” conclusionists be “so certain.” Surely we need more info? – - – - -NO? Minimum information certainty?
Heh, heh. idiots on my own side.
There are two worlds out there. In one you politely ask, “Can I help you officer?”
In the other one you just haul ass. You know the results of public defenders and sitting your ass in jail because they talked you into a plea and you haven’t done a thing.
@bobbo
You must be a boob bobbo if you need more info. The video says it all. Innocent bystander in a coma for not stopping to chat with a big fat pig. I am not “anti-cop” just anti-stupid cop.
I would have run also. Innocent and running. The cop was out-of-line and should be punished for his criminal behavior. The shopkeeper should be sued for pointing out the wrong person. This is more evidence in the on-going class-action case against our out-of-control police forces. The largest class-action case in the history of litigation, it would be. Any care to join in?
Never trust a cop. Most are assholes.
#8–jpfitz==the video doesn’t “say” anything. We have a 10 sec clip.
I wish I could be so certain of anything on so little information.
Crime. Running from cops. The ONLY reason cops deserve support at all is the idiots who are against them.
It’s OK now, the cops all work for Obama.
Cue the cries that “there must be something more to the story! a cop would never use excessive force on an innocent person!”
What. Ever.
An already determined to be INNOCENT man was running AWAY from cops who likely failed to identify themselves. The cop caught up with the man, and instead of tackling him to the ground, checked him head-first into a concrete wall. He’s probably going to die.
How much more information do you need? This is *excessive* force.
I don’t know about anyone else, but it looks like he wasn’t trying to run too fast, it looks like he realizes its a cop and slows down. I’ve had a cop come up to me to ask questions out on a dark street before, and he never identified himself, they expect you to see the uniform and know.
But seriously? Probable cause? Really? Whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty and the whole SERVE and PROTECT??? The problem is all the people that just shrug this off as “well he must have been doing something to deserve it”, thats why this shit always goes unpunished.
Wow…. tough call.
There is not enough information. The clerk may have just pointed down the alley and the cop put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.
I think what it boils down to is the take down. It looks like the kid stopped. If true, then the take down was excessive. If not, then this is simply “shit happens”.
Another reason we need universal healthcare in the country. Sometimes, bad shit happens to good people. To assume that you can go through life and simply sue anyone who makes it less than perfect it insane.
Perhaps he saw video of a young girl removing her shoe getting beaten in her cell, or a guy sitting on the ground getting cuffed having his brains blown out.
I relish law and order. Its the life blood of a healthy society. If you question your survival at the hands of those enforcing “the law” something is going terribly wrong.
Too many of the incidents I see look like police officers treat their actions like sporting events. “If he/she breaks this rule I can……” Very little civic intention it appears.
I am reminded of a few friends and acquaintances of mine from high school that wanted to get into law enforcement. They would fantasize about pulling over traffic violators, and then letting them go or fining them depending on the arse kissing that may happen. Allow them to beat someone and they would gladly, with out exception they had a tendency to be bullies. All of them are now in law enforcement.
I am fortunate enough to live in an area where I trust and know local enforcement, so its not an anti-establishment attitude on my part. It just disgusts me when authority is misused.
More and More and More often after 9-11 the law enforcement agencies of America are becoming above the law and are really nothing but Criminals with a Badge them selves. Other countries in the world find a different way to police than the cowboy tactivs used all across the usa. These guys live for this type of takedown and you dont have to be a former Nasa Employee to be a police officer. I truely believe that many of the Former Soviet Countries now have more freedom than many US Citizens have… Fear Mongering is rife… another sad day for America
Check the cop’s history. I’ll bet you he’s your typical overgrown douche who gets a kick out of the power that comes with carrying a badge. Gives him an excuse to body slam someone half his size. How many professions allow you to slam someone so hard he flies several feet into a wall and into a coma, then allows you to just shrug it off saying, “Hey, I was just following procedure! Now can I go back to eating my donut?”
It’s really unfortunate that we have to fear the police. Don’t accidentally tick one off (or even give him the SLIGHTEST reason to get ticked off) because you might end up finding your life permanently altered. Remember, you the citizen have little or no power in that instance; the big guy with the badge has ALL the power, and your life can literally be in his hands. Hope and pray he isn’t having a bad day or didn’t have too much coffee to drink!
To everyone who says “jeez, wrong place at the wrong time. oh well.”
The story will change when it’s you, a friend, or family, who happens to be ‘in the wrong place.’
What is so wrong with forcing a culture of ‘please don’t mangle people even if you think they’re guilty’ on the cops?
Excessive force. I think this is more and more prevalent because being a cop is a rotten job. I think they are treated like crap and deal with the most rotten dregs of society and it’s making them crazy.
I’m not sure what the solution is, but I think another cause of the problem must have something to do with LAWYERS and the ACLU.