18 killed in bloody Acapulco shootout as Mexican drug war spreads – Times Online — Once a vacation hotspot. Now a charming hell hole.
Sixteen gunmen and two soldiers died in a bloody five-hour shootout in Acapulco at the weekend as the Mexican drug war erupted in the heart of the beach resort.
Members of a drug gang hurled grenades and opened fire on troops laying siege to a house in the city’s hotel zone, where four police officers were apparently being held hostage.
The fierce two-hour gun battle took place late on Saturday night after the army received a tip about the presence of armed men at a gated house. Up to nine soldiers and three Mexican bystanders were injured, while several Mexican tourists were evacuated from nearby hotels.
Southern Cali will look like this in ~10-15 years if things continue down this path.
#13, brm,
You don’t have to believe the sky is blue either. The fact is that a big reason why prohibition was repealed is because it generated so much violent organized crime.
Which shows how much television has shaped our kids intellect. Prohibition was overturned because the majority of people were responsible drinkers and wanted to drink without breaking the law. It was totally a social swing in opinion.
After the repeal of prohibition came further crime waves. Although Al Capone was off the streets, he was replaced by a bunch of other criminals, Bonnie & Clyde, John Dillinger, Machine Gun Kelly, Ma Barker and her kids, to name just a few. While the earlier gangsters killed each other, the bank robbers killed more innocent people.
. . . a few thousand more DUI’s a year in exchange for eliminating EVERY SINGLE gang drug turf war and EVERY SINGLE mugging and robbery to pay for an artificially high priced habit seems worth it to me.
So you would rather kill a lot more innocent people on the road in order to save the lives of a few gangbangers. Why not take away their guns if you really want to save a gangsters life?
#7 & #12 Greg Allen. I have the same questions. Most of the crime comes from users of hard core drugs as the users are so messed up that they can’t make $ and turn to crime. Lowering the price & increasing accessibility won’t create less of these people.
…if drinking the water doesn’t kill you first
#22 Fusion:
“Which shows how much television has shaped our kids intellect.”
Well, tell that to Congress, who penned this little diddy on the 75th anniversary of the 21st Amendment:
“Whereas passage of the 18th Amendment, which prohibited `the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors’ in the United States, resulted in a dramatic increase in illegal activity, including unsafe black market alcohol production, organized crime, and noncompliance with alcohol laws;”
As in this passage, I said the crime associated with the black market was *A* factor, not *THE* factor.
“After the repeal of prohibition came further crime waves.”
I also said that crime might go up initially, but drop over the long term. But I’m not sure how Bonnie and Clyde are a direct result of legalizing alcohol.
“to save the lives of a few gangbangers.”
So all the innocent people in the neighborhoods they run, the people caught in the crossfire of their turf wars and drive-by shootings, the children they push drugs onto because we have no legal, regulated distribution…
these people are all guilty? You’re a heartless bastard.
What’s next? Mexican mafia kidnappings in Phoenix Arizona, USA?
Oh, wait a minute. That’s right! There’s a “war on drugs” too. Isn’t there?
#18 Not all drugs are illegal. Not all people who take drugs ruin their lives. I’m able to enjoy a few beers or a red wine or two without ruining my life. I’m sure most people are capable of doing the same with a few joints or some cocaine.
Remove all the hysteria and misinformation regarding drug and all you are left with is bad laws.
#25, brm,
So what is your point. You point to the violence caused by alcohol prohibition as the reason it was repealed. That isn’t the case. There were several.
The leading one is the social mores wanted to be able to drink legal alcohol.
People were disturbed by the disregard for the law they were required to have in order to obtain a drink.
Many more people lost their lives to drinking bad alcohol then were ever killed by organized crime. Even more were blinded or rendered vegetables by the effects of the bad booze.
People were moving away from the strict governing of their lives by Christians. The Volstead Act was generally viewed as condescending.
And there was a Democrat in the White House and Democrats controlled Congress.
Someday you might want to look up something before you blindly start publishing it.
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So all the innocent people in the neighborhoods they run, the people caught in the crossfire of their turf wars and drive-by shootings, the children they push drugs onto because we have no legal, regulated distribution…
Hhmmm, a two parter.
Why not just ban the guns? Without guns they would have a much harder time shooting each other.
So the children have to buy their drugs because there isn’t a regulated distribution system? Say what? Do you really think being carded is going to stop someone from buying drugs?
Regardless, you seem to prefer allowing drunks on the road. I’ve lost several friends to drunk drivers. You will never convince me that anyone caught doing a DUI should be let go. That is just sick.
See, it’s events like this that make me question the propaganda in favor of Mexican illegal immigration.
And good argumentation:
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/mexico.html
#28 Fusion:
“Why not just ban the guns? Without guns they would have a much harder time shooting each other.”
Like how we’ve banned drugs and now they’re much harder to get?
“You will never convince me that anyone caught doing a DUI should be let go.”
omg, when have I *ever* said this?