School children who have never had a flu shot may need to get vaccinated four times in the fall – twice for seasonal flu, twice for pandemic swine flu – officials at the CDC told health professionals on Wednesday.
Most everyone else should expect three shots.
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“This vaccine campaign will unfold quite differently than seasonal flu,” said Wortley, in a conference call with health care professionals nationwide on Wednesday. “This is a huge endeavor we’re gearing up for.”
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Preservative-free shots will be available for children and pregnant women, about 20 percent of the lots manufactured, Wortley said. They will either come in single-dose injections or as Flu Mist, the live virus that is squirted into the nose.Adults will most likely get their shots from multi-dose vials which contain Thimerisol, including very low levels of mercury.
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There are a number of newer vaccine technologies that are now under development, including cell-based vaccines and vaccines grown in fall armyworm cells. Those won’t be among the tier 1 vaccines used in the United States, Wortley said.
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Wortley said the CDC is setting up a process for tracking adverse reactions to the shots, including the rare but potentially fatal Guillain-Barré syndrome, an autoimmune disorder that can be temporarily paralyzing.
@#18 Problem you fail to see is that science/medicine is fluid, not a black&white issue. Ex. doctors in early 20th century may have seen that microbes are destroyed by irradiation and used your reasoning to irradiate whole population before realizing that they are damning the whole population to a death from cancer…
Other way around the same way of thinking you propose: people who would be dead via natural selection may linger around due to vaccinations and weaken the whole human race by allowing their weak genetic form to propagate. Hence, ban all vaccinations for the betterment of the human race… Equally stupid…
The very human freedom should mean that we should pick (and suffer from) our own choices as we please. This is not 1984 (or North Korea) where society decides for us.
Bobbo,
As always you cut right to the chase. Unfortunately, people tend to become irrational over things they do not understand or cannot explain, especially if it deals with health issues. In fact all americans face mandatory vaccinations as children, only until recently has it become an issue. I feel a society that prides itself in it’s civil liberties should use it’s resources to convince the public that this vaccination is something we need to do and why, and not just try to herd the cattle so to speak. This doesn’t seem to be the case yet. Perhaps they’ll come around. I sure hope the nay-sayers and pooh-poohers are right this time.
#15, Right on!
I of course will be taking the vaccine. To those who refuse, I say great! The world desperately needs to reduce the surplus population. If the reduction is mostly loons worried about Thimerisol, vaccines in general, God, etc. so much the better for the rest of us!
#20–dismal==accepting your argument for the exercise, I would have to counter that “some things” in science are fluid, and other things aren’t. So–I asked the question unanswered as yet==does leaving a large percentage of the population unvaccinated INCREASE the risk of further virus mutation placing all (get it?==ALL) members of society at greater risk of infection/illness/death?
A LIEBERTARIAN self centered asshole appeal to some dipshit notion of “freedom” does not fit. The increase in life span in humans from 30 years to 80 years has come by way of public health==no freedom to shit in the public water supply, no freedom to leave yourself unvaccinated ((see question above)).
NO Freedom to choose not to risk mercury poisoning even if such is a real fact. Not when the larger public health fact is 300 may die from preservatives but 30 Million can die from the flu. Simple Math even simple people should be able to understand.
The question of vaccines is a good one. Are you a man of science, or just a stupidstitious fool?
#21–amodedoma==thank you for the kind words and wise support. How is it that you and I are in agreement/disagreement about 50/50? That sets up quite a tension. Most agreement slippage is around 80/20.
Each of us could say of the other: “Oh, he is certainly “x” but he is also “y.” I’ll have to pay more attention to see what those variables are. With no memory of it, I suspect religion plays a role==but it will be fun to monitor and identify.
Sante!
“no freedom to shit in the public water supply, no freedom to leave yourself unvaccinated”
Telling people they can’t take a shit in somebody else’s drinking water is hardly the same thing as forcing people to inject foreign substances into their bodies against their will.
So I have one question….What the fuck ever happened to Bird Flu?
Answer…..nothing.
Idiots.
There are plenty of legal precedents for mandatory immunizations. There will be a small percentage of complications. This damn virus is mutating constantly. It’s the public good, not your individual sorry ass at stake. During marshal law you can be put up against a wall and executed without due process. This is an example why nothing can be accomplished in the country, because there is a God Damn collection of nut jobs for every possible conspiracy theory. I don’t care if you don’t take the damn shot, just be willing to stay home and die without contaminating someone else. Bunch of crazy sons of bitches.
#25–SL==whats the matter? Sick? Feeling low?
YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU KNOW, WE BOTH KNOW EACH OTHER KNOWS that any two ideas have similarities and differences. A person who considers/decides/posts acknowledging only one or the other characteristic is, is, is – - – - -well, an idiot. Or a shill.
You are more than an idiot shill so hopefully this temporary stupidity will pass and you can post rationally again.
I look forward to that.
#26–someone==what happened to bird flu? /// Gee, I think it went into summer time retreat presumably to mutate and return this fall==just like the Great Flu of 1916.
Way to use your boundless ignorance as a sword. Can’t you even read/remember items on this tiny little blog to inform yourself? Google? No?
Just stupid forever huh?
Another informational site for fighting the anti-vax believers.
(Thanks to Todd W. et al for creating the site)
J/P=?
#28, okay, parallel scenario: If we experience a major climate shift where there was a long-term problem of the supply of food not being able to adequately feed the population, would you be in favor of forced sterilization to restrict population growth?
#29. Sticks and stones bro’ sticks and stones.
“Gee, I think it went into summer time retreat presumably to mutate and return this fall==just like the Great Flu of 1916.”
Yeah, I’ll hold my breath. But seriously, when was it that you became Fusions bitch?
#31–SL==of course. What else would be compassionate and rational?
#32–someone==of course, you are right. Over the mark to suggest you will be stupid forever. That would assume you have no interest in learning anything.
My bad.
I think I’ll get my regular flue shot then consider the rest.
#33, and you see, that is the source of our disagreement – I don’t take being rational to be that people can be treated like cattle, even if I’ve rationalized that it’s in their best interests.
Ten dumbass reasons why people don’t get their flu shots
http://pusware.com/rdct/?p=92
case closed!
Enforced quarantine – possibly reasonable under some circumstances.
Enforced injection of vaccine including from Baxter who sent bird flu contaminated seasonal flu vaccines all over Europe and wide-scale forced testing (this will be testing) which is in breach of the the Nuremberg Code – dangerous / insane / immoral.
#35–SL==and so WITHIN the hypothetical you proposed, what would you do? Presumably allow/permit/encourage/counsel against people having more kids? I guess then everyone else alive is supposed to get proportionately less food ((ie, within your hypothetical, the weakest in numbers equal to the newborn must starve to death)), or is it that the parents of the new kiddies do not get any additional food at all and then the choice of themselves or their own kiddies starving becomes their choice?
What is the humane thing to do on lifeboat earth if there is only enough food to feed those currently living?
#38, gee thanks bobbo, you’ve saved me from having to babble, since somewhere in there you’ve expressed my answer for me.