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By Sunday October 18, 2009

What Would Jesus Think Of Our Health Care System?



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  1. bobbo, libertarianism fails when it becomes dogma says:
    10/19/2009 at 2:47 pm

    #60–LOSER==I know you are big on gradations of meaning. How about this one:

    How much of your personal wealth would you give to “save” everyone from a burning earth?–ie, total annihilation===everyone except you and your favorite movie star poster.

    One Dollar? Would you spend one of your very own dollars to save everyone on earth, or do you love your dollars that much?

    Tell us LOSER, what would you give up of YOURS, your hard earned all by yourself booty, to save the rest of the world?

    LIEBERTARIANS and retards the world over are waiting for your example.

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  2. Cantankerous says:
    10/19/2009 at 2:48 pm

    Bobbo==> It must drive you bat-shit froathing insane when LL ignores you like that. Why do you keep trying?

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  3. bobbo, libertarianism fails when it becomes dogma says:
    10/19/2009 at 3:04 pm

    #62–cantankerous==I find LL’s lack of response invigorating/myself validating/evidence of the truth not admitted.

    You do raise an interesting existential question though. Why do any of us respond or not on this blog? I say, we all do it for pleasure of one sort or another. I take pleasure in pricking the Ghost of Losers departed humanity, and Loser chooses not to respond for a variety of reasons. Perhaps as you might suppose, perhaps because he knows he will lose any exchange. But people are a variable lot–who knows?

    I post because I don’t view the blog as between two folks exchanging ideas. When I challenge Loser==I am challenging ALL LIEBERTARIANS who are as selfish as LOSER is proud to claim. Some say that libertarianism fails when it becomes dogma. It should be challenged when it raises its hoary head.

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  4. Angel H. Wong says:
    10/19/2009 at 3:06 pm

    I think this image explains it all.

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  5. ECA says:
    10/20/2009 at 12:19 am

    What I find humorous is the USES of words that most of these folks THROW around..
    Communist.
    Socialist..
    Fascist..
    Libertarian..

    I DEMAND, that ALL those on TOP have the same medical as the LOWER PAID WORKERS..

    Its NOT, IF’ you can afford it.
    A $200 deductible and only 80% coverage on a $10,000 BILL just dont do it for me.

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  6. Mr. Fusion says:
    10/20/2009 at 5:52 am

    Loser,

    Bobbo has called you out quite effectively. Much better than I am capable of and I commend him for his intelligence and wit.

    I’ll let you in on a secret. You think wrong. Instead of “either or”, it should be “all”.

    Yes, our current rationed health care system has decided that only those who value money may be saved. Those who we depend upon to do the work beneath our own clean hands are out of luck.

    Aside from the power and prestige assumed by such an attitude, it is bound to fail. Throughout history are cultures of the “haves and have nots”. They all failed. Most with disastrous consequences to those on the “power” side of the equation. Power structures and class hierarchies don’t last.

    We the PEOPLE have said we want change. We have told our representatives we want everyone covered. We have told our representatives we want the insurance companies reined in. We have said, we don’t want a wife OR ten people having to die. Everyone is deserved of good quality health care.

    I’m sorry I am writing over your comprehension level. This is not Lynden LaRouche babble. It is called democracy.

    And, finally, since Liebertarians like to quote Thomas Paine, let me leave you with one of his quotes.

    “Those who want to reap the benefits of this great nation must bear the fatigue of supporting it.”

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  7. LibertyLover says:
    10/20/2009 at 7:58 am

    #66, There you go, trying to change the subject to health care again.

    Why would you sacrifice 10 strangers for your wife?

    “Those who want to reap the benefits of this great nation must bear the fatigue of supporting it.”

    Funny. He was talking about public service, watching your government, being true to the ideals of freedom, not wealth redistribution.

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  8. bobbo, are we not in the scientific age says:
    10/20/2009 at 12:25 pm

    #67–gee LL==you half way stumbled into an intelligent conversation. Fusion can do that to people==urge them to be better.

    Lets see now. Is universal healthcare primarily an issue of wealth distribution or an issue of a burden this great nation must bear?

    I suppose its definitional and very much subject to the bias of people who would and would not kill 10 people to save one without a thought beyond the initial impulse to what is comfortable.

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  9. Ralph, the Bus Driver says:
    10/21/2009 at 2:08 am

    #67, Liberty Loser,

    #66, There you go, trying to change the subject to health care again.

    And gee, here I thought that was the topic.

    Why would you sacrifice 10 strangers for your wife?

    Are you still pulling your little dick to that stupid mantra? Grow up and read Fusion’s post. He explained himself quite well or do you need it re-explained.

    Instead of rationing health care, we let everyone live. Our nation as a whole will benefit.

    “Those who want to reap the benefits of this great nation must bear the fatigue of supporting it.”

    Funny. He was talking about public service, watching your government, being true to the ideals of freedom, not wealth redistribution.

    Now that is funny. We need interpretation of plain language. Thomas Paine, who’s writings are always good enough for a quick blurb from the right wing nut tea baggers. When someone else uses one of his quotes though, suddenly it isn’t plain language but decipherable.

    Face it, you’re an idiot and Fusion and Bobbo got you.

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  10. LibertyLover says:
    10/21/2009 at 5:17 am

    #69, And yet, somebody else who doesn’t understand Yes/No questions. This is a sad state of affairs when they let people on the internet who can’t read.

    I’ve noticed you still haven’t answered the question, either.

    It’s a lot easier to cry like a little girl when confronted with the truth than to man up and answer the question, isn’t it?

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  11. Ralph, the Bus Driver says:
    10/21/2009 at 8:55 am

    #69, Liberty Loser,

    #69, And yet, somebody else who doesn’t understand Yes/No questions. This is a sad state of affairs when they let people on the internet who can’t read.

    Maybe, just maybe, most other people can see a straw man argument when it is tossed up. I have also seen quite a few questions tossed to you you seem to ignore.

    As Bobbo has asked several times, why would you kill ten people?

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  12. LibertyLover says:
    10/21/2009 at 9:05 am

    #71, I didn’t know bobbo was asking questions. I don’t see his posts.

    Look at #58 above.

    NOW will you answer the question? I did. Are you saying my balls are bigger than yours? Really?

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  13. Ralph, the Bus Driver says:
    10/22/2009 at 6:38 am

    Liberty Loser,

    Are you saying my balls are bigger than yours? Really?

    Are you changing the subject to something even you know you will lose again?

    Now you are really looking desperate.

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  14. LibertyLover says:
    10/22/2009 at 11:49 am

    #73, Nope, just verifying that you don’t have the balls to answer the question.

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  15. ECA says:
    10/22/2009 at 12:34 pm

    Liberty,
    and how much do you AND your employer PAY for your medical and workmens comp??

    You havnt answered my question.
    Its at least $200-300 per month.
    AND YES workmans comp would be ABLE to be DROPPED. as you will be covered EVEN for work related problems..

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  16. LibertyLover says:
    10/22/2009 at 12:59 pm

    #75, That 5% was total. Actually, it is 5.78% total for family coverage. Something you have to consider is everybody here makes a really good salary. There aren’t but about a dozen people in world who can do what we do and I employ most of them.

    AFA, Workman’s Comp, that is a State requirement. It will stay.

    But irregardless if the the cost is $1, it is NOT a federal responsibility. I know that bothers you that we don’t have an EU government, but that’s just the facts.

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