The relationship between Barack Obama and Joe Biden grew so strained during the 2008 campaign, according to a new book, that the two rarely spoke and aides not only kept Biden off internal conference calls but refused to even tell him they existed.
[...When] Biden, at an October fund-raiser in Seattle, famously predicted that Obama would be tested with an international crisis, the then-Illinois senator had had enough.
“How many times is Biden gonna say something stupid?” he demanded of his advisers on a conference call, a moment at which most people on the call said the candidate was as angry as they had ever heard him.
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Frustrated over the campaign following her disastrous interview with Katie Couric, Sarah Palin said she regretted accepting the Republican vice presidential nomination. “If I’d known everything I know now, I would not have done this,” she said. McCain’s high command, already worried about her lack of eating and drinking and fearing that she was suffering from post-partum depression, convened a conference call and discussed whether she was mentally unstable.
Your Uncle Dave still thinks the Republican controllers threw the election by nominating ancient McCain and idiot Palin so the Democrats would win and have to deal with the impossible to fix mess Bush & Co + Congress left so they can win it all back in 2012.
#20-qb
Or is it “negra president?”
This is all too much… somebody should just pick a name and stay with it.
#21 I agree. I also think it’s just dandy we let negroes play in the major leagues now too, don’t you? And they can fight for their country too, as long as they stay in their own units. We wouldn’t want the morale of the troops to drop.
As a “Republican Strategist” I can say Uncle Dave is giving political strategists WAY too much credit for their ability to influence these things.
-ancient news, the system is “perfectly corrupt” makes no difference who you vote in.
lookie here, more “perfection” is on the way for the 2010-12 cycles.
The Courts are about to roll back / pull out all the stops on campaign finance laws so the skies the limit next year..
From NY Times 2 days ago Jan 8
-and you thought “voting the bums out” would make a difference. ha!
Time for a complete reset
-s
#23 I also can’t believe that the Republican party would willingly toss an election. Politicians don’t like to lose.
#21 Mulatto makes it easier to switch back and forth.
Oh, I get it. Republicans WANTED to lose. Alrighty then.
Just when you thought you saw the most absurd thing from the GOP sewer, up comes another turd !
By 2012 the ‘traditional’ Republican party will have ceased to exist, having become a party of right wing extremism and anti-government loons. It will be used in the future as the textbook definition of political implosion. The vast majority of current Republicans will repudiate their party and declare themselves independents. And as independents, they will vote for the liberal side because they will be so disgusted by what the ‘conservative’ side has become.
Add to that an economy that by then will be in a strong upswing (there are strong positive signs already, take a look at this or this Bloomberg story, and the wind-down of the failed Neo-Con military policies, and the Democrats will be owning not only the presidency, but also a stronger majority of both the House and the Senate.
I was wondering back in 2006 who in the Republican party would be stupid enough to attempt a doomed run for president after Bush… the theory of McCain being a ‘sacrificial lamb’ is not all that farfetched. And by selecting Palin as a running mate, they set a new low threshold, so the 2012 candidates can only look good by comparison… but by then the Republicans will have zero membership remaining.
#28 Sadly the Republicans aren’t going anywhere. Obama got in because people were angry, and he was the “change” guy. Obviously not. Now that anger can get captured by right wing populism.
Business Republicans will hold their nose and grab whatever warm bodies are around, no matter how religious or survivalist. They will have a harder time maintaining a consistent media message. That is a distant second priority to all voting together, which the GOP does extremely well.
If Obama had turned out to be FDR-lite the GOP would be in the wilds for a decade or two. Since he’s just an empty suit with a nice smile they will be back much sooner.
#17 The UAW was given a stake in GM to prevent it from going into liquidation. Many of GM’s bondholders bought in at distressed prices and were counting on breaking up the company. Between payoffs from credit default swaps and a sale of assets GM was worth more dead than alive. The only group who really wanted GM to continue were the workers. The workers, represented by the UAW, had also been promised billions in health/retirement benefits which entitled them to a place at the table. Think of it as a debt to equity swap.
More generally Obama has been negative on teachers’ unions and public employees unions. Not as negative as Bush II, but anyway…
If Obama has a pimp it is obviously the big banks.
Either the Republican Party did a better job of keeping the “tell all” press off of Bush/Cheney’s back. Or these guys are funded by the Republican. And they couldn’t wait more than a year to “tell all” about Obama. With a little bit about McCain/Palin thrown in to appear bipartisan. Where’s the “tell all” book about the 8 years of the last administration? Surely nobody believes it was a spotless 8 years. But one year into this one, and already there’s enough to print a book about?! If that’s true, than the prior eight should fill volumes!
Yeah, I believe that the GOP purposely threw the 2008 race. And the Dems threw it the term before (2004). Bush II just isn’t that clever, to have won it without their help. So US elections have become a contest of who can out “low ball” the other. Basically a contest of “hot potato” (or potatoe if you’re Dan Quayle). As in, “Who wants to deal with the mess we’ve gotten the USA into, this time?” It’s no longer such a simple job, as it use to be. It requires a whole lot more creative lying skills. As Bush II probably found out.
So possibly the only reason left for wanting the job of US President. Is to help out your influential friends, who will later help you out, after it’s over. Usually paybacks come in the form of book deals. Even if it’s a book supposedly written by the “First Dog”. Yeah, wasn’t that special?
“Your Uncle Dave still thinks the Republican controllers threw the election by nominating ancient McCain and idiot Palin so the Democrats would win”….
You can borrow my tin-foil hat.
I wonder how many loyal Rush fans remember that he was pro-Obama during the Democrat primaries and was running anti-McCain “parodies” up until the election?
Most people don’t have the stomach for going that far down the rabbit-hole to where Obama and Limbaugh are on the same team. When I was younger I thought I wanted to by cynical enough to understand “the system”. Now I’m afraid to go that far for fear for my sanity.
But yes, “they” wanted Obama to win but not for the sake of the Republican party any more than for the sake of the United States. Remember that scene in the white house where all the living former presidents got together to say that they hoped “he succeeded” while coyly passing over what exactly they hoped he succeeded in doing? I have a bad feeling about that. Given the impeccable “New World Order” credentials of those men, you don’t need a degree in political science to guess how it is that they hope he succeeds.
Consider this: Obama is the leader of the free world. He’s the first American president to chair the UN Security Council. The most powerful “Christian” leader and the most powerful Muslim leader in the world as well. He is also the “Prince of Peace”. Oprah declared him “The One”. Children sing hymns to him.
“For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the government shall be upon His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
In short, if God dies, Obama is ready to take his place. That is phase one and it is basically done.
Meanwhile, in Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cherishes the innocent wish that the modern state of Israel will soon be blasted off the face of the Earth. He is bolstered in his hopes by his simple and touching faith in Allah and his slowly massing nuclear arsenal. It has been observed that Israel’s enemies only have to win once. It is less frequently observed that Iran’s true and unaccountable leaders are a bunch of ancient religious fanatics that aren’t long for this world in any event. They might be itching to go out with a bang, so to speak, and win a long standing argument about Allah and Yahweh. That argument being which one can kick the other’s ass. Clearly, the vaporization of the modern state of Israel would be a TKO.
Now, the backbone of the conservative movement, the Christian right knows within the deepest fibers of their being that this is impossible. The psychological shock of such an event would effectively destroy all serious opposition to the coming global totalitarian empire. This New World Order promises to be a regime of such pure evil that if it is not in fact ruled by Satan, it will make little difference to those who are lucky(?) enough to live to see it. If you can imagine the worst of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, you will have some idea what a world ruled by bankers and their pet technocrats will be like.
I know a lot of you reading this will be saying that it is in fact impossible for Israel to be wiped out because God won’t allow it. By that logic, the Holocaust would never have happened either. Either way, this will be taken as the start of the events foretold in the Book of Revelation so most Christians will be literally heading for the hills and not a few will be freaking out over the fact that they are still on Earth and have perhaps missed the “Rapture”. Which means they won’t be much good resisting an evil the victory of which they believe was foretold by God.
That’s phase two and you would have to be in an underground lab somewhere in Iran to know how far along that is.
So, yes, “they” wanted Obama to be president and the Republican were just following orders.
# 31 Somebody:
“Now, the backbone of the conservative movement, the Christian right knows within the deepest fibers of their being that this [the nuclear destruction of Israel] is impossible. The psychological shock of such an event would effectively destroy all serious opposition to the coming global totalitarian empire.”
So I guess it’s up to us atheist (or pastafarian) liberals to resist the totalitarian empire. But don’t worry — we’re up to the task because we know Keith Olbermann is on our side and the ghost of Molly Ivins will sustain us!!!
So we’re doomed then.