A WARNING that climate change will melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 is likely to be retracted after a series of scientific blunders by the United Nations body that issued it.

Two years ago the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a benchmark report that was claimed to incorporate the latest and most detailed research into the impact of global warming. A central claim was the world’s glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035.

In the past few days the scientists behind the warning have admitted that it was based on a news story in the New Scientist, a popular science journal, published eight years before the IPCC’s 2007 report.

It has also emerged that the New Scientist report was itself based on a short telephone interview with Syed Hasnain, a little-known Indian scientist then based at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi.

Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was “speculation” and was not supported by any formal research. If confirmed it would be one of the most serious failures yet seen in climate research. The IPCC was set up precisely to ensure that world leaders had the best possible scientific advice on climate change.

This sort of stuff really pisses me off. Taking advantage of a frightened public like this is just plain wrong. The original article here and New Scientist angle here.




  1. Mr. Fusion says:

    #26, Denier,

    I find it so very amusing you accept and suggest the ramblings of a nut has greater precedence and veracity than thousands of studies and papers. So typical.

  2. Ah_Yea says:

    Oh, and Fusion. You decide to remain in ignorance. Of course if I cite a quotation, like I did in #22 without the links, you would then dispute that because I didn’t supply a supporting link.

    There are smart and reasonable people in this blog who actually want to learn something, and not be a fanatic like yourself.

    See #33 for an example of someone who is intelligent.

    Someone who decides to remain ignorant would say something stupid like “I, for one, have no intention of reading through an article”. Then to top it off, you say “Post your comment and evidence with a link and I will read it.”

    What do you think ALL of post #22 was? Sheer stupidity. Astonishing.

    Your post is both idiotic and ignorant. Pure Fusion. You state that you want citations but refuse to examine them when given to you.

    You refuse to do any work, to learn anything. You want to be spoon fed like a baby.

    I am starting to believe that you, Phydeau, and Dallas are one and the same person, or at least blog from the same insane asylum.

    You, Phydeau, Dallas, Awake, and Obamapoligist forever are getting very tiresome.

    None of you contribute anything constructive or informative.

    Let’s raise the quality of commentary on this blog and have all of you go somewhere else.

  3. Mr. Fusion says:

    Can one of you deniers explain why only the Times is covering this?

    BTW, the Times, once a great paper, is now part of Rupert Murdoch’s disinformation network.

    From the article.

    A central claim was the world’s glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035.

    Now here is the report. Can one of you real bright deniers find where this “central claim” is?

    It is quite evident the Times got this wrong. They are attempting to make a big deal out of something we don’t know about, they used anonymous people to make a point, and belittled the authors. Maybe we could should refer to this as “Timesgate”. That should refute anything coming from them.

  4. pedro says:

    #44 Feeding your delusion won’t make you any better. Hasn’t your psyche told you that?

  5. Mr. Fusion says:

    #44, Cherman/pedro

    #44 Feeding your delusion won’t make you any better. Hasn’t your psyche told you that?

    Too funny.



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