Oklahoma militia monument

Fed up with what they see as Washington’s intrusion into their state, Oklahoma “tea party” leaders and some conservative legislators want to create a volunteer militia to defend against the federal government.

“Is it scary? It sure is,” said Al Gerhart, a tea party activist who heads the Oklahoma Constitutional Alliance. “But when do the states stop rolling over for the federal government?”

State Rep. Charles Key, a Republican representing Oklahoma City, said he believes there’s a good chance that legislation could be introduced next year to authorize a militia.

A tea party leader in Tulsa, J.W. Berry, has been soliciting interest through his newsletter, urging that readers “buy more guns, more bullets.”

“It’s not a far-right crazy plan or anything like that,” Berry said. “This would be done with the full cooperation of the state Legislature…”

If politicians match your paranoia – it’s not crazy?

Critics point out that the National Guard already provides for the state’s military needs. They worry a militia would stoke extremism…

Next Monday marks the 15th anniversary of the anti-government terrorist attack by Timothy McVeigh. The former U.S. soldier and militia sympathizer killed 168 men, women and children with a truck bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. He was executed in June 2001.

  1. Zybch says:

    “It’s not a far-right crazy plan or anything like that,”

    Um, yeah. It is.

  2. Publius says:

    Militia groups hate the properly elected public representatives, and typically carry out violent acts in representation and aligned with foreign powers.

    Here is Iraq for example.

    “The implicit threat is that if Iran is unable to achieve its objectives one way, it has militia groups that it can use to turn up the violence,” said Marisa Cochrane Sullivan, a scholar at the Institute for the Study of War who has written extensively about Shiite militias. “The stakes are very high for Iran in this election. It’s not surprising if they’re pursuing concurring actions.”

  3. Publius says:

    If Darfur’s militia’s are any indication, there will be some use for them by the next Republican administration.

    Is this one reason why Fox News is attempting to establish militias in the USA right now?

    “The violence in Darfur began in February 2003, when two black rebel groups launched an offensive against the government, citing discrimination against the region’s three main black tribes. The government armed and trained local Arab militias to put down the rebellion and drive thousands of potential backers from their villages, according to U.S. officials and human rights groups.”

  4. Ah_Yea says:

    Oh, Phydeau, and you too Bobbo, turning from facts to fantasy and wishful thinking.

    First, Phydeau. Let go of your blinders (yea, like that is going to happen) and learn the truth.

    “Clay Risen wrote in a review of The End of Southern Exceptionalism, a scholarly work by Richard Johnston and Byron Shafer, “In the postwar era… the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This very busy and perhaps, therefore, distracted class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party, it perceived, best represented its economic interests: the Republican Party.”

    The South turned Republican because of affluence and the desire not to give it all away to “tax and spend democrats” as personified by Johnson.

    GetSmart: Dixiecrats? Do you even know the definition?
    “The States’ Rights Democratic Party (commonly known as the Dixiecrats) was a shortlived segregationist, socially conservative political party in the United States. It originated as a breakaway faction of the Democratic Party in 1948, determined to protect what they portrayed as the Southern way of life beset by an oppressive federal government, and supporters assumed control of the state Democratic parties in part or in full in several Southern states. The States’ Rights Democratic Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and white supremacy. Members of the States’ Rights Democratic Party were often called Dixiecrats. (The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat, referring to the Democratic Party.)”

  5. bobbo, chopping at the tree of liberty the gun nuts hang from says:

    Ah Yea–I know you are well traveled, but have you ever driven through/lived in the South?===of the USA? Do you read the newspaper/blogs/lame stream media and have any perception at all about what kind of political leaders come out of what areas? (North, South, East, West eg–the liberal coasts, the heartland etc).

    So, thinking you have, what following sentiment better describes the South:

    1. “an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class.”


    2. Backwoods of America awash in welfare support, religious cults, racial divisions, and failing public education.

    You pick.

  6. woody says:

    “an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class.”

    wealthy suburban class that does not grow fruits and vegetables, ranch or produce food, but consume food.

    wealthy suburban class that does not work in machine shops, as mechanics, or as fabricators, but does drive cars or ride taxis or the bus.

    wealthy suburban class that does not repair air conditioners, refrigerators, or washers or dryers, yet uses all the conveniences of modern household appliances.

    wealthy suburban class that does not produce, yet consumes beyond anything that the northeastern elitist classes of asses educated in the finest liberal arts universities across the union could possibly reproduce without the help of those Backwoods, welfare consuming, cult worshipping, racists failing public education…LABELS?

    Quit moderating for comments that Eideard the retread find acceptable.

  7. Mr. Show says:

    Once upon a time we had Civil Defense that handled emergencies and prepared civilians to protect themselves from military attack. It seems like that group was more about arming yourself with knowledge and skill than just with ammo (although that’s helpful too when the crap hits the fan like when many police in Orleans Parrish left and you were left to protect yourself).


    Yes, it’s Wikipedia so YMMV.

    Whether these people are crazy, misguided, or smartly vigilant is up to you to decide. As long as they don’t trample on the rights of others, I don’t see the big deal (and no, you won’t see me joining).

    You can be sure that these folks will be watched by the FBI but that’s no comfort IF a crazy member decides to do something like McVeigh…

  8. Uncle Patso says:

    # 26 Sombody:
    Did you have anything to say when the Obamacare bill just happened to have provisions for armed goon squads?

    I don’t remember that part! Is that anywhere near the section that says we can’t go fishing any more? Or the part that gave six billion dollars to ACORN? (Oops! Too late. ACORN is no more, destroyed by lies.)

    Or is violence only unacceptable when it implies resistance to tyranny?

    Oh, we must free our Sooner drivers from the tyranny of Interstate and Federal highways! We must close all those totalitarian Post Offices and ban those despotic Amtrak trains. We must tell all our people with money in the bank that we have freed them from that onerous Federal Deposit Insurance. In fact, we shall print our own money! (SoonerBucks?) We are unbound by the oppressive shackles of the Pure Food and Drug Act, huzzah! All the U.S. Army, Air Force and Marine Corps installations in Oklahoma must be closed immediately! Our farmers will weep with joy at being liberated from those horrible agricultural subsidies! As will our musicians, authors, inventors and engineers when we rid them of all that hated copyright and patent protection! Our poorer students will finally learn character when we rescue them from those dictatorial subsidized school lunches! Our pilots will be overjoyed that we have dropped out of that Fascist Air Traffic Control organization, as well as the hated FAA. Our electric companies will joyfully remove us from the absolutist power grid! No longer will our sick citizens be threatened by the work of the authoritarian National Institutes of Health or the autocratic Centers for Disease Control! Huzzah again! (I could go on…)

  9. jman says:

    a little learning for you libs that want to yell racist when somebody stands up for their rights


    that’s a lesson on racism, by a black man or african american if you’re the PC type, explaining the KKK, democrats and how they continue to “own” blacks for votes. listen and let it sink in real well

  10. Traaxx says:

    Lying cheating typical Demoncrat Public Employee put this web site together on public work time on public computers, sucking off the public tit like all Demoncrats. http://crashtheteaparty.org/

    A website of nut ball Cool Aid drinking commie fellow traveler Demoncrat Public School teacher. I’m sure just like all the demon commies he advocate lying, cheating and stealing. A typical science based moral retrograde.


  11. Faxon says:

    I would join a militia in California, if I don’t have to wear pink panties as part of the uniform.

  12. Faxon says:

    And Mr Eihard, you are a an extreme radical yourself. Just because you don’t agree with a political viewpoint, it does not follow that any proponents of such are “nutballs”. I would say that the entire regime in Washington is composed of “nutballs”, and I have a feeling I would get more people agreeing with me than with you viewpoint of a Constitutionally protected right. One guaranteed by the Second Amendment. But of course, the Second Amendment is only supported by “nutballs” like me.

  13. gquaglia says:

    “Nutball” because you don’t agree with their ideas. Typical.

  14. Rick Cain says:

    I live in Oklahoma. Trust me on this, there’s a reason why we’re 49th in the Union in everything. If it wasn’t for Mississippi we’d be 50th.
    The only thing we’re good at is methamphetamine abuse, teen pregnancy, divorce, and religious fanaticism.

  15. ECA says:

    Alaska and hawaii??

  16. Rick Cain says:

    I meant 49th in ranking, not statehood. Pitiful state. One irony was the Murrah 1995 bombing, where Oklahomans came together to help the rescuers. Other than that the state has been epic fail.

  17. OkRedneck says:

    Wake up.if oklahoma was to suceed from the union. we already provide natural gas for the world. hell there is more oil in oklahoma. tulsa lets get it on. thing about it is give me liberty or give me death. we can feed are own. land owner. and very armed

  18. OkRedneck says:

    one more thing about it is I have lived all over the US oklahoma is just like anywhere else..

  19. Provocateur says:

    What was that picture for? Total false flag.

  20. chrisbryon says:

    Imagine that oncs….


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