GF says:

Love the law.
Love E-verify.
The citizens of Arizona cut in state college tuition and other state benefits for illegals over 2 years ago and mandated R-verify with the Legal Arizona Workers Act. The Mexicans had their protest marches waving the Mexican flag and chanting Si Se Puede – yeah, that lets me know you want to be an American citizen. They had their day without a Mexican, at first most of us didn’t notice. But then as the day went om we realized service was better, service workers understood English and no one was copping a attitude about doing their job. I wonder what New York would do if it had 500,000 illegal French Canadians coming over every year and demanding you speak French and marching down Broadway carrying Quebecer flags while chanting Oui, nous pouvons?

Glenn E. says:

I think this whole thing is an over-reaction. And perhaps that’s deliberately planned. It makes a good distraction for other issues, the politicians don’t what to touch.

I think the news and concerned citizens are over-reacting, because I very much doubt the AZ cops are going to be hassling every Latino they see on the street. Half of AZ must be Latino or Mexican. More likely the cops will just hassle some percentage of newcomers. People they’ve not seen before. That look like they don’t have a dime to their name. And certainly the troublemakers that they have seen before. Regardless of how much bling they’re sporting.

I think the Latinos, legal and not, are just coming to the defense of their own. The same way the Italian immigrants defended their own, years ago, when a growing US Mafia was the common concern. A lot of Italians idolized the crime families. And if cable’s Sopranos is any indication. They still do. As long as they were fairly decent to their own. And didn’t feed on them, to too great excess. They were willing to overlook the crimes perpetrated against non-Italians. Not a very responsible citizen-like attitude.

And I’m thinking the same situation exists in AZ. The Latinos are willing to overlook the criminal class of their kind. Because they have such strong racial and family ties. That they’re willing to forgive their criminal brothers, of almost anything.

The news reporters ought to be pointing this out. But they prefer to make it a hot button issue, of racial profiling. When it’s actually the reverse. Law abiding Latinos, ignoring what other non-law-abiding Latinos are doing to screw things up for us all. Citizens of any race or nationality have got to stop writing blank checks for the bad behavior of a small portion of their own kind. This shouldn’t be an “us against them” issue, all the time.

If anyone is being racist, it’s the Latino Americans, who choose to defend their own kind regardless of what crimes they’ve committed. And don’t care about the non-Latino victims. As if the rest of us are all fantastically wealthy, and can afford to be screwed over now and then.

moss says:

Always worth a chuckle watching libertarians supporting law and politics that guarantee a national ID program..

Conservative libertarians may outstrip Christians and Republicans at sophistry.

Benjamin says:

#7 bobbo said, “I must say, as much as we all hate the Kenyan…”

Who said we hate Barak Obama. I hate the leftist decisions he made as President and I hate the fact that he is in office, but I do not hate the man.

I am doing everything in my power to get opposing party members elected and I am on working for the opposing party at the precinct county and district level.

Oh, BTW, he was probably born in Hawaii. I’m not sure because I never saw the birth certificate.

MikeN says:

Well English proficiency is required for citizenship, so if someone speaks poor English, that should be good reason to suspect they are not a citizen, at which point it should be OK to ask for proof of legal residency.

MikeN says:

Rep Luis Gutierrez has proposed a national biometric ID card.

However, only Arizona will be associated with Nazi ‘Your Papers Please’.

Granted at least this site associates TSA.

Benjamin says:

#31 I pointed this out at my party’s district convention. Some dumb woman wanted to make an amendment to the party platform that began, “All and every Republican candidate…” I pointed out that she should change the wording to “Each and every Republican candidate…” She said she would leave it how it is. Only she was entitled to change the wording of the amendment under the rules of the convention.

I got up spoke in opposition to the amendment because we had other platform planks that said that immigrants should be required to speak English and we would look stupid when we sent our platform to the state convention if we adopted this woman’s plank that had grammatically incorrect wording. In fact I made sure we rejected all three of this woman’s amendments because none of them made any sense.

BmoreBadBoy says:

@Lou Minatti, #6

Americans used to be able to make a living without a high school diploma, until minimum wage that is. People don’t understand simple economics. If you force businesses to pay their employees a higher wage, that is going to cause products and services to go up in price too, since increased cost is always passed on to the consumer. Therefore, you’re making more money, but everything costs more too. (Not to mention the unintended consequence that businesses have to cut the payroll with pink slips, since they can’t pay everyone less.) That’s called government created inflation. Now Americans are used to higher wages, and immigrants and used to no jobs at all. That means low end jobs look less attractive to Americans and more attractive to immigrants. And Americans are too happy to sit on their butts and collect unemployment rather than to go get a factory job or work at McDonald’s. If it weren’t for immigrants, we’d be on a fast track to a nonexistent economy!

@bobbo, #7

Your precious democrats have done little to stop the repug agenda, and, in fact, have caused more problems because even the well-intentioned legislation always has unintended ramifications. (For example, minimum wage).

Employing immigrants isn’t the reason there are no jobs in America. Exporting jobs overseas is the main culprit. Why are they being exported? Look to the heavy taxation on businesses, add to that minimum wage laws, stifling regulations and the close ties between the white house and wall street, and you have a recipe for less jobs and economic struggle. We should be praising business owners, and telling the government to get out of the economy. If it weren’t for business owners, all you none business owners wouldn’t have a job, except for you government employee scum of the earth, who are paid with stolen money. Government doesn’t produce anything, it only leeches. Only in the free market will you have businesses competing with each other for employees and consumers, employees competing for jobs and consumers getting the lowest price for the best service/product. If it weren’t for government interference, we’d have immigrants coming to do low end jobs, while lots of high end jobs would still be around for all the local folk.

The0ne says:

#38
You can’t take his comment seriously. If anything it is a form of racism. Stopping people because they don’t speak “English.” If I weren’t upset I laugh but I’m upset and sick by the comment.

Obviously there is a severe lack of understanding US history here. I don’t even want to point out more issues that WOULD come about if that came the case. But lastly, I think we want people here to speak American as English is elsewhere in the world.