Free trade, the conservatives wet dream. We exported our manufacturing jobs overseas and got nothing in return, and still they bray for more free trade.
Ranger007 said, on January 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
Many of us know how we got there. Doesn’t change things. This is where we are, prolonging it (at this point in time)isn’t Bush’s fault, and believe me, I am no fan of Bush.
Just because we know “how we got there”, doesn’t excuse the criminality of his administration. Nxon was ousted for some illegal political B&E. How many lives were lost and how many trillions were spent on that…? Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about sexual relations with an intern. How many lives were lost? Bush sends America to war on a lie. His consequences…an election to a second term as President.
Since Obama took office, the troop levels in Iraq have been reduced to 50,000 or below (from 150,000+ during the previous administration) and all but a very few essential personnel will be gone by the end of 2011 as stated by Iraqi law. While the drawdown hasn’t happened fast enough, more has been done to remedy the situation than the 5 years Bush kept us there. “Mission Accomplished”….just another lie and another $100+ billion and another plane load of fallen Americans.
We need to stop the tax and kill cycle, if we can.
Only hippie pinko commie freaks think we should give peace a chance. We need more of them. Even General Eisenhower warned us in 1953 to stop the military industrial complex and we ignored him.
Too bad we can’t work to support our family without supporting the biggest death and destruction operation on the planet.
Let’s be a little real here. A staggering amount of money is being wasted at the Federal, State, and local levels. By limiting state spending and taxes TN is able to do a fairly decent job with the resources they have. The people running the city utilities on the other hand most likely should be tired and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. They spent ten years paying interest without ever paying a dime on the principle on a loan.
The Fed Gov can best be summed up with “to the victors go the spoils.”
There are several things which need to be done such as tort reform to reduce medical costs. James Dean explains why the Dems didn’t do it.
Last and not least the bureaucratic abomination in the Dem health care bill is just going to rip everyone a new one unless they were already getting a free ride, This bureaucratic night mare will completely run out of money after ten years along with the entire government. They intend to shift staggering costs that most states can’t cover over to the states and of course the tooth fairy was supposed to fix it. If you want to see how well that stupidity works check out CA.
TN has already tried to be all for those needing medical care through medicaid and it broke our piggy bank. When the sky is the limit the medical profession will charge astronomical fees. Our Dem governor fixed it by limiting the amount the State Gov. will cover.
Is SS going to be there when you need it? Maybe if they slash benefits. I don’t know how you will be able to survive on it.
Is medicare going to be there when people need it?
Maybe, if you don’t need more than cheap generics.
I will make an observation here. Your options to getting old and needing these two programs are limited: Die or get rich.
Medicaid? Not so sure. Too many people and organizations are saying they don’t want to deal with future medicaid. The insurance companies are ripping everyone a new one and no longer care about containing costs because not containing costs and hiking fees is the way to make money under the new rules in the Dem Health Insurance bill which is what health care turned out to be.
I would add that Americans are among the most highly taxed people around today when you add all the taxes and “fees” up but we aren’t getting value for what we are putting in.
This might be a good time to tell Conn. thank you for convincing a small business to move to my home town. We can use the jobs since you didn’t want them. Yes high taxes and to many regulations do cost jobs. Low taxes and more reasonable business regulations can attract businesses.
I can’t watch the video but I will tell you this: no taxes = anarchy.
While most people think of anarchists as skinny tweeks with an “A” Sharpie’d on their army surplus jackets, the loudest and most common anarchist rhetoric is coming from the anti-tax tea baggers riding around on Medicare scooters.
Oh, David (#21), congratulations on being so above it all.
The same year this cartoon was made, and six months out of high school, my father shipped out in the infantry to some of the fiercest ground fighting in Europe and watched half his generation get their brains, guts, and legs exploded in front of his eyes. Just one of the endless deprivations during this time: most of the ground troops couldn’t get decent boots and spent the entire winter of 1944 with their feet in perpetual, wet cold (taxes, anyone?) while they completed the defeat of the Nazi army.
After he came back he slept with a .45 under his pillow for two years while he recovered from the shock.
But what was really surprising was how many people were completely indifferent to the sacrifices that he or any of the other survivors had made.
I wonder what kind of people that would be? Let’s see… oh, I know. That would be people like you.
After the war someone noticed how frightening Americans was a good way to get them to spend money on guns Guns GUNS until we perfected both the payload (hydrogen bombs) and the gun (ICBMs)to the point of mutually assured destruction. Since no one would go to war with us (Cuban missile crisis) we’ve had to invent wars ever since (Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan … Pakistan?). This film could be a chronicle of the conception of the military industrial complex. About the only thing made in USA anymore is weapons systems.
# 21 David said:
“Please tell me this was done as satire of war propaganda.”
Nope, this is the genuine article. The movies of the time were chock-full of the stuff: the previews, the newsreels, the cartoons and the features. Haven’t you ever seen any ’40s war movies? I recommend it.
Proving that Disney Studios was just as much of a propaganda-meister as the rest of the entertainment industry. This film was made before Congress came up with the idea of automatic “Withholding Tax”. So they get their share of your income, before you do. And no “payment schedule” is required. Basically your paycheck has been drafted.
I like how they blamed Hitler and the Japanese for raising the taxes. BTW, only one country ever paid back the US, for saving their butts in WW2. That was Iceland. And that was only in dollars, not in lives lost. Ever since then, the US doesn’t seem to get much of either in exchange for spreading and protecting democracy, over the globe. While industries flourish everywhere else, protected by US troops. The US GNP (DNP now?) keeps shrinking.
But wasn’t it nice of Disney to make us believe that only mere dollars were being sacrificed? But not by that company. Because I’m sure Disney got gov. subsidized for producing this clip. And spending your money for booze help the Axis powers? Wow! You mean to tell me the Kennedys got rich selling booze for the Nazis? How come I’m just learning this now?! Well maybe old Joe Kennedy had gotten out of the import game, after Prohibition. Still, Seagrams and Jim Beam, all Nazi fronts?
You know, when I was in school, they always told us how the Nazis and later the Russians, all made these propaganda films. But US? never! And then I grew older, and discovered that Santa Claus wasn’t the only entertaining lie I was fed. BTW, the script for this film was probably written (or dictated) by the US Office of War Information. With only minor character dialogs (Ducks) by the Disney team.
And the Pentagon is still at it. What you think the “UNIT” Tv series is for? It replaced “24″ and “JAG”. Don’t believe it? Read “Operation Hollywood” by David L. Robb.
I saw a documentary, not too long ago, they said the world Diamond monopoly (you know who) would only lease industrial grade diamonds to the US, for their machine tools, during the war. But not sell them to the US. So there wouldn’t be a glut of cheap diamonds on the world market, after WW2. Said monopoly, being primarily based in the UK. Whose asses US soldiers were dying to save. But those running the world gem trade, were still only thinking of their “bottom line” profits, after the war. And had all those war diamonds reclaimed from the tools, after it was over. And selling new industrial diamonds at post war inflated prices. Not much of a sacrifice on DeBeers’ part.
#32 Man, you got me quite involved until you got to the last crap-paragraph.
Do you have any idea what the hell are you talking about?
Yes, The Unit has a lot of “love your intelligence agencies” thing, but neither has anything to do with 24 or Jag nor it replaced them.
Geez! At least know your stuff! How can a series that started in 2006 & was cancelled in 2009 replace another that just stopped production last year and ran for longer time (24)?
And JAG was not replaced by The Unit, NCIS did and Donald Belisario has always done his series with a Marines theme underneath, starting with his first series (baah baah black sheep). Even Galactica, McGuyver & Quantum Leap do. Would it had also something to do with him being ex-marine?
The Unit replaced The Agency, which was about the CIA.
Please tell me this was done as satire of war propaganda.
Free trade, the conservatives wet dream. We exported our manufacturing jobs overseas and got nothing in return, and still they bray for more free trade.
Ross Perot was 1000% correct.
Taxes! Taxes! Blood and veins in your teeth!
You’re our kinda boy!
… er, no, off to the group W bench for me….
Ranger007 said, on January 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
Many of us know how we got there. Doesn’t change things. This is where we are, prolonging it (at this point in time)isn’t Bush’s fault, and believe me, I am no fan of Bush.
Just because we know “how we got there”, doesn’t excuse the criminality of his administration. Nxon was ousted for some illegal political B&E. How many lives were lost and how many trillions were spent on that…? Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about sexual relations with an intern. How many lives were lost? Bush sends America to war on a lie. His consequences…an election to a second term as President.
Since Obama took office, the troop levels in Iraq have been reduced to 50,000 or below (from 150,000+ during the previous administration) and all but a very few essential personnel will be gone by the end of 2011 as stated by Iraqi law. While the drawdown hasn’t happened fast enough, more has been done to remedy the situation than the 5 years Bush kept us there. “Mission Accomplished”….just another lie and another $100+ billion and another plane load of fallen Americans.
O’Really – I guess you are right. When you get to the point of putting Bush on trial, don’t forget all of those voting with him deserve the same.
We need to stop the tax and kill cycle, if we can.
Only hippie pinko commie freaks think we should give peace a chance. We need more of them. Even General Eisenhower warned us in 1953 to stop the military industrial complex and we ignored him.
Too bad we can’t work to support our family without supporting the biggest death and destruction operation on the planet.
Oh, wait, nevermind, my favorite show is on TV.
Let’s be a little real here. A staggering amount of money is being wasted at the Federal, State, and local levels. By limiting state spending and taxes TN is able to do a fairly decent job with the resources they have. The people running the city utilities on the other hand most likely should be tired and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. They spent ten years paying interest without ever paying a dime on the principle on a loan.
The Fed Gov can best be summed up with “to the victors go the spoils.”
There are several things which need to be done such as tort reform to reduce medical costs. James Dean explains why the Dems didn’t do it.
Last and not least the bureaucratic abomination in the Dem health care bill is just going to rip everyone a new one unless they were already getting a free ride, This bureaucratic night mare will completely run out of money after ten years along with the entire government. They intend to shift staggering costs that most states can’t cover over to the states and of course the tooth fairy was supposed to fix it. If you want to see how well that stupidity works check out CA.
TN has already tried to be all for those needing medical care through medicaid and it broke our piggy bank. When the sky is the limit the medical profession will charge astronomical fees. Our Dem governor fixed it by limiting the amount the State Gov. will cover.
Is SS going to be there when you need it? Maybe if they slash benefits. I don’t know how you will be able to survive on it.
Is medicare going to be there when people need it?
Maybe, if you don’t need more than cheap generics.
I will make an observation here. Your options to getting old and needing these two programs are limited: Die or get rich.
Medicaid? Not so sure. Too many people and organizations are saying they don’t want to deal with future medicaid. The insurance companies are ripping everyone a new one and no longer care about containing costs because not containing costs and hiking fees is the way to make money under the new rules in the Dem Health Insurance bill which is what health care turned out to be.
I would add that Americans are among the most highly taxed people around today when you add all the taxes and “fees” up but we aren’t getting value for what we are putting in.
This might be a good time to tell Conn. thank you for convincing a small business to move to my home town. We can use the jobs since you didn’t want them. Yes high taxes and to many regulations do cost jobs. Low taxes and more reasonable business regulations can attract businesses.
I can’t watch the video but I will tell you this: no taxes = anarchy.
While most people think of anarchists as skinny tweeks with an “A” Sharpie’d on their army surplus jackets, the loudest and most common anarchist rhetoric is coming from the anti-tax tea baggers riding around on Medicare scooters.
Oh, David (#21), congratulations on being so above it all.
The same year this cartoon was made, and six months out of high school, my father shipped out in the infantry to some of the fiercest ground fighting in Europe and watched half his generation get their brains, guts, and legs exploded in front of his eyes. Just one of the endless deprivations during this time: most of the ground troops couldn’t get decent boots and spent the entire winter of 1944 with their feet in perpetual, wet cold (taxes, anyone?) while they completed the defeat of the Nazi army.
After he came back he slept with a .45 under his pillow for two years while he recovered from the shock.
But what was really surprising was how many people were completely indifferent to the sacrifices that he or any of the other survivors had made.
I wonder what kind of people that would be? Let’s see… oh, I know. That would be people like you.
After the war someone noticed how frightening Americans was a good way to get them to spend money on guns Guns GUNS until we perfected both the payload (hydrogen bombs) and the gun (ICBMs)to the point of mutually assured destruction. Since no one would go to war with us (Cuban missile crisis) we’ve had to invent wars ever since (Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan … Pakistan?). This film could be a chronicle of the conception of the military industrial complex. About the only thing made in USA anymore is weapons systems.
# 21 David said:
“Please tell me this was done as satire of war propaganda.”
Nope, this is the genuine article. The movies of the time were chock-full of the stuff: the previews, the newsreels, the cartoons and the features. Haven’t you ever seen any ’40s war movies? I recommend it.
Proving that Disney Studios was just as much of a propaganda-meister as the rest of the entertainment industry. This film was made before Congress came up with the idea of automatic “Withholding Tax”. So they get their share of your income, before you do. And no “payment schedule” is required. Basically your paycheck has been drafted.
I like how they blamed Hitler and the Japanese for raising the taxes. BTW, only one country ever paid back the US, for saving their butts in WW2. That was Iceland. And that was only in dollars, not in lives lost. Ever since then, the US doesn’t seem to get much of either in exchange for spreading and protecting democracy, over the globe. While industries flourish everywhere else, protected by US troops. The US GNP (DNP now?) keeps shrinking.
But wasn’t it nice of Disney to make us believe that only mere dollars were being sacrificed? But not by that company. Because I’m sure Disney got gov. subsidized for producing this clip. And spending your money for booze help the Axis powers? Wow! You mean to tell me the Kennedys got rich selling booze for the Nazis? How come I’m just learning this now?! Well maybe old Joe Kennedy had gotten out of the import game, after Prohibition. Still, Seagrams and Jim Beam, all Nazi fronts?
You know, when I was in school, they always told us how the Nazis and later the Russians, all made these propaganda films. But US? never! And then I grew older, and discovered that Santa Claus wasn’t the only entertaining lie I was fed. BTW, the script for this film was probably written (or dictated) by the US Office of War Information. With only minor character dialogs (Ducks) by the Disney team.
And the Pentagon is still at it. What you think the “UNIT” Tv series is for? It replaced “24″ and “JAG”. Don’t believe it? Read “Operation Hollywood” by David L. Robb.
I saw a documentary, not too long ago, they said the world Diamond monopoly (you know who) would only lease industrial grade diamonds to the US, for their machine tools, during the war. But not sell them to the US. So there wouldn’t be a glut of cheap diamonds on the world market, after WW2. Said monopoly, being primarily based in the UK. Whose asses US soldiers were dying to save. But those running the world gem trade, were still only thinking of their “bottom line” profits, after the war. And had all those war diamonds reclaimed from the tools, after it was over. And selling new industrial diamonds at post war inflated prices. Not much of a sacrifice on DeBeers’ part.
#32 Man, you got me quite involved until you got to the last crap-paragraph.
Do you have any idea what the hell are you talking about?
Yes, The Unit has a lot of “love your intelligence agencies” thing, but neither has anything to do with 24 or Jag nor it replaced them.
Geez! At least know your stuff! How can a series that started in 2006 & was cancelled in 2009 replace another that just stopped production last year and ran for longer time (24)?
And JAG was not replaced by The Unit, NCIS did and Donald Belisario has always done his series with a Marines theme underneath, starting with his first series (baah baah black sheep). Even Galactica, McGuyver & Quantum Leap do. Would it had also something to do with him being ex-marine?
The Unit replaced The Agency, which was about the CIA.
So that’s a Baah Baah Sheeple for you.