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Author Ramesh Ponnuru
Ron Paul-hater

It is possible that Paul will come in first in a fractured field in the Iowa caucuses: Those caucuses reward intensity of support, which he certainly has. The notion that he will be the Republican nominee is too absurd to spend a moment contemplating.

You can read this hopeless article if you weant. Better reading are the 300-plus comments that tell a different tale.

And here’s another gem.
This author says Iowa is worried sick that if Paul wins then their whole political system will be ruined. What is wrong with these people?

Paul poses an existential threat to the state’s cherished kick-off status, say these Republicans, because he has little chance to win the GOP nomination and would offer the best evidence yet that the caucuses reward candidates who are unrepresentative of the broader party.

This is hilarity at its best.



  1. McCullough says:

    There’s no other choice. All the other Republicans are globalist pieces of shit and voting for the globalist Obama again after all the lies is insane.

    Just like the idiots who voted for Dumbya TWICE.

  2. deowll says:

    I like Ron Paul. I can vote for him.

    If I get the chance I will vote for who ever is running against Obama. I would have to rank him as one of our 4 worst Presidents. He makes Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Johnson look like great leaders.

  3. AdmFubar says:

    ron paul american big business’ best candidate for removing all the inconvenience of regulations to keep the american consumer protected…

    shivers……

  4. orchidcup says:

    The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning…. And, even since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY? The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will soon find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your legs and hands, and fly into your face and eyes.

    Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people.

    Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it.

    Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country.

    Banks have done more injury to the religion, morality, tranquility, prosperity, and even wealth of the nation than they can have done or ever will do good.

    All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.

    Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.

    Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the “latent spark”… If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference?

    Liberty, according to my metaphysics, is an intellectual quality, an attribute that belongs not to fate nor chance. Neither possesses it, neither is capable of it. There is nothing moral or immoral in the idea of it. The definition of it is a self-determining power in an intellectual agent. It implies thought and choice and power; it can elect between objects, indifferent in point of morality, neither morally good nor morally evil.

    The science of government it is my duty to study, more than all other sciences; the arts of legislation and administration and negotiation ought to take the place of, indeed exclude, in a manner, all other arts. I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.

    It should be your care, therefore, and mine, to elevate the minds of our children and exalt their courage; to accelerate and animate their industry and activity; to excite in them an habitual contempt of meanness, abhorrence of injustice and inhumanity, and an ambition to excel in every capacity, faculty, and virtue. If we suffer their minds to grovel and creep in infancy, they will grovel all their lives.

    You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments: rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the universe.

    When people talk of the freedom of writing, speaking, or thinking, I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist. But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.

    The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations … This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.

    John Adams – (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President

  5. Glenn E. says:

    My concern is that if Ron Paul becomes US President, it will quickly become evident that he’s NOT in charge. And that few of any really have been, going back a hundred years or more. Congress will either ignore him completely (the military too). Or they’ll take him out, and install the puppet VP to fill the role, much more obedient and subserviently. Ron Paul would be made the scapegoat for everything the US government does wrong. Including the Congress. He’ll just end up being the white Obama, in the political insiders’ eyes. Yeah, you can vote for him, and maybe even get Paul elected. But nobody in the government really has to do anything he says. Not without a lot of red tape, basically stalling him out for four years. Kind of like what they’re doing with Obama, now.

    • Dallas says:

      I agree with you.

    • orchidcup says:

      Can any reasonable man be well disposed toward a government which makes war and carnage the only means of supporting itself?

      To judge from the history of mankind, we shall be compelled to conclude, that the fiery and destructive passions of war, reign in the human breast, with much more powerful sway, than the mild and beneficent sentiments of peace; and, that to model our political systems upon speculations of lasting tranquility, is to calculate on the weaker springs of the human character.

      No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute.

      In politics, as in religion, it is equally absurd to aim at making proselytes by fire and sword. Heresies in either can rarely be cured by persecution.

      If it be asked, What is the most sacred duty and the greatest source of our security in a Republic? The answer would be, An inviolable respect for the Constitution and Laws.

      But if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights

      If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify.

      Let experience, the least fallible guide of human opinions, be appealed to for an answer to these inquiries.

      Alexander Hamilton – (1757-1804) Founding Father

    • McCullough says:

      I have always had this suspicion as well. And that speaks to the “globalist theory and agenda”. All we can do is vote for a man who is so obviously not on board, and hope that they don’t take him out ala JFK, RFK, and MLK.

      Lone gunman my ass.

      • orchidcup says:

        Government is not reason, it is not eloquence. It is force, and like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

        If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences that can invite the consideration of mankind, reason is of no use; the freedom of speech may be taken away, and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

        Occupants of public offices love power and are prone to abuse it.

        The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position.

        No pecuniary consideration is more urgent, than the regular redemption and discharge of the public debt: on none can delay be more injurious, or an economy of time more valuable.

        My policy has been, and will continue to be, while I have the honor to remain in the administration of the government, to be upon friendly terms with, but independent of, all the nations of the earth. To share in the broils of none. To fulfil our own engagements. To supply the wants, and be carriers for them all: Being thoroughly convinced that it is our policy and interest to do so.

        But if we are to be told by a foreign Power … what we shall do, and what we shall not do, we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.

        Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens,) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove, that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of Republican Government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defence against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation, and excessive dislike of another, cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots, who may resist the intrigues of the favorite, are liable to become suspected and odious; while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

        Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of Liberty abused to licentiousness.

        Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth.

        There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily.

        It should be the highest ambition of every American to extend his views beyond himself, and to bear in mind that his conduct will not only affect himself, his country, and his immediate posterity; but that its influence may be co-extensive with the world, and stamp political happiness or misery on ages yet unborn.

        The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the republican model of government, are justly considered deeply, perhaps as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.

        The foundation of our Empire was not laid in the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition, but at an Epoch when the rights of mankind were better understood and more clearly defined, than at any former period.

        No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass.

        May the father of all mercies scatter light, and not darkness, upon our paths, and make us in all our several vocations useful here, and in His own due time and way everlastingly happy.

        George Washington – (1732-1799) Founding Father, 1st US President, ‘Father of the Country’

      • #112--bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Just come out and say it plain: The Council of Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Organization, International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank have already placed microchips in the temporal lobe with a frequency receiver tuned to the National Emergency System wavelengths.

        Every morning from 2:13 to 4:17 AM everyone in America is turned into an automaton doing the unknown and secrete directives of this cabal.

        There is no hope, no escape. All your wealth are belong to us–err, I mean THEM! They don’t care about anything else.

        The best thing is, all these groups are real==and secret. Practically proof positive.

  6. Nanny State says:

    is Eidard a pedophile? every story he posts seems to either feature exploited small children in compromising situations or are specifically about pedophillia.
    He’s like one of those stridently anti-gay preachers who turn out to be homosexual.

  7. orchidcup says:

    The trade of governing has always been monopolized by the most ignorant and the most rascally individuals of mankind.

    When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.

    Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.

    Reason and Ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. If either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country, the machinery of Government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself; and Ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.

    These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed, if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated.

    An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates his duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.

    Of more worth is one honest man to society and in the sight of God, than all the crowned ruffians that ever lived.

    I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

    Though the flame of liberty may sometimes cease to shine, the coal can never expire.

    This new world hath been the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty from every part of Europe. Hither have they fled, not from the tender embraces of the mother, but from the cruelty of the monster; and it is so far true of England, that the same tyranny which drove the first emigrants from home, pursues their descendants still.

    A constitution is not the act of a government, but of a people constituting a government; and government without a constitution is power without a right. All power exercised over a nation, must have some beginning. It must be either delegated, or assumed. There are not other sources. All delegated power is trust, and all assumed power is usurpation. Time does not alter the nature and quality of either.

    Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing.

    When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon.

    The most formidable weapons against errors of every kind is reason. I have never used any other, and I trust I never shall.

    The danger to which the success of revolutions is most exposed, is that of attempting them before the principles on which they proceed, and the advantages to result from them, are sufficiently seen and understood.

    Thomas Paine – (1737-1809) English author, pamphleteer, radical, inventor, intellectual, revolutionary, and one of the Founding Fathers of the United States

  8. pedro says:

    What’s up with all the copy-paste now. Is this Alfred E. Newman’s new nickname?

    • orchidcup says:

      Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

      Mark Twain

      • pedro says:

        Pretend that you’re not idiot and try to have something of your own to say.

        Me.

        • orchidcup says:

          No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.

          I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging the future but by the past.

          It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it.

          Patrick Henry – (1736-1799) US Founding Father

  9. NewFormatSux says:

    JCD is just mad at Ramesh Ponnuru because he was the first guy to really push McCain as a viable nominee. JCD lost lots of bets as a result.

  10. Dr Spearmint Fur says:

    If you look at the head to head polls against Obama, Ron Paul has the second best numbers (-7/-8%). Romney has the best (+2/-8%).

    Paul is certainly ahead of that lying bag of lard and part time weather balloon Gingrich.

  11. Jeroen says:

    Ron Paul is just another populist douchebag, we have one here in the Netherlands too called Geert Wilders.

    • LibertyLover says:

      You obviously don’t know anything about our Constitution if you think he is a “populist.”

    • Rick says:

      I like Geert Wilders. Sometimes you just need somebody who is brave enough to tell the truth. He has to wear a bulletproof vest and sleep in different places every night to protect himself from the religion of peace.

  12. I gave $500 to his money bomb…pissing off some of my friends.

    I am war weary as well as statist weary.

    Paul is the antidote for both.

    • Badda bing says:

      There it is, the alfie kiss of death. Ron Paul is as good as dead. You know your going to end up voting for Romney. At this point he’s the only one with a snowballs chance.

      As a side note I did fine this little piece on Pauls economic plan.

      http://tinyurl.com/74hszuw

      • Calvin Coolidge did similar things, shut down a third of government, lowered taxes…it led to the roaring 20′s from a depression.

        Get government out of the way, stop them from stealing and wasting money, and the economy will take off.

        Freedom works every time its tried…and yes, many will get richer…many will become filthy rich…that’s the point.

        A lot better than we all become equally poor, all having poverty as our equal outcome…except the statists who distribute the wealth…they eat well and live large.

        • Tj-the former catholic says:

          Good plan. We’ll let organized crime run the cities instead of the government. Much more cost effective.

          • McCullough says:

            The point is government is now organized crime…where the hell have YOU been?

        • Badda bing says:

          It could be argued that Coolidge’s policies led to the great depression.

          That however was not the point of the post. The point of the post is that every candidate alfie has professed his love for has gone down faster then a crack whore after a ten dollar rock. Shall we list them, Trump, Bachman, Cain, Gingritch, and now Paul.

          Paul has as much chance of getting the nomination as Obama does of being nominated grand klucker of the local klan. While every one claims that Paul is being ignored in the media. This is the best thing for him. When placed in the spotlight what skeletons are going to pop out of his closet? How about those racist comments in his newsletter that he didn’t make? Ron Paul is not a politician. While most would claim this is a good thing, it won’t get him the nomination. The GOP will hold their nose for Romney simply because the rest are such total fuck ups. The end result will be that obama will get a second term as people will go with the devil they know instead of the one they don’t. Hey Romney may not be Obama, but he’s still Romney.

          • GregA says:

            Bada Bing, you called it exactly. And the Republican party will deserve what they get. They have allowed themselves to be hijacked by extremists — they need to either: (a) begin to govern through compromise (which has been the American way since the founding fathers) and move more to the center; or (b) accept that they won’t be governing much at all (except for being as obstructionist as they can).

            They were able to get away with a negotiating strategy of bringing the country to the brink what sane people view as disaster, but that only works once or twice, and I think they’ll find that continuing with that approach gets you voted out of office.

        • Chuck says:

          You offer a false choice: Either some become filthy rich or we all become poor. Another alternative (as valid as the ones you list) is that the rich stay rich, enterprising individuals still get rich, the middle class becomes secure again in its savings and jobs (and therefore resumes spending), the poor are given a leg up, the economy improves overall, oh, and the environment continues to be protected, consumer goods remain safe, and minorities still retain their freedoms.

  13. NewFormatSux says:

    We have a visit from Jeroen, an advocate of submitting to Islam.

  14. Rich says:

    Ron Paul could serve as the inspiration/mentor for a younger, more charismatic presidential candidate. HELLO- IT’S A TELEGRAM FROM MR. GET-A-CLUE GUY. I love him and would certainly vote for him. I swear to God, when did our presidential election process become a contest among identical, soulless mannequins?

  15. #148--bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    McCullough==somewhere up there you said “The point is government is now organized crime…where the hell have YOU been?” /// I must say that captures our situation quite well. Ha, ha. I’m still recognizing how naive I am. I just thought our gov was corrupt, evil, and self seeking. But organized!!! Yes, organized criminality.

    Where are the new G-Men to to put them all in jail?

    Kudo!

  16. Rick says:

    Big money likes its tax breaks. Ron Paul advocates eliminating all of them. No wonder Bloomberg has sent out its journalism hit men.