Huh?!?!

The U.S. Senate voted Thursday to approve a defense authorization bill which included a provision that not only repealed the military ban on sodomy, but also repealed the ban on having sex with animals — or bestiality.

CNS News reported:

On Nov. 15, the Senate Armed Services Committee had unanimously approved S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a provision to repeal Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

Article 125 of the UCMJ makes it illegal to engage in both sodomy with humans and sex with animals.

It states: “(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Now I understand why politicains were so eager to pass this.



  1. #02--bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Finally. One of the most harrowing experiences in the military for me was a goat party. But I swear there was no penetration, coming or going, on my part. I can’t speak to what the others were doing.

  2. TheOne says:

    Good for the politicians I say. This way they won’t ever get into some sort of bad divorce and lose everything they have. They can enjoy all the bestiality they want without worry. And to make this even sweeter I hope all of them rise to zoophilia.

  3. honeyman says:

    Why is sex with animals bracketed in with homosexual acts, as if its shameful? Probably some latent mofo’s projecting their guilt.

  4. They are simply trying to associate homosexuality with bestiality. The fake conservative right wing have been saying for a while now that allowing same sex marriage will open the door for human animal marriage. This is obviously ludicrous bigotry.

    • dusanmal says:

      Yes, indeed … it is bigotry against people who were born with genetic inclination to have sex with animals… PC Left is happy with limits as long as those are THEIR limits. If you want to drop obvious Natural dictate that the only normal sexual relation is between adult male and adult female of one species (because it satisfies attempt at procreation, same as eating food is fine and eating rocks is Naturally pointless – but if you want to do it it is your choice [though there I suspect rock eating person would be placed in mental institution]), you either drop it completely or not. You can’t pick and choose. So, if it is “freedom of choice” you can’t celebrate one un-natural choice, lock people in jail for another such choice or force people in mental institution for a third such choice… Particularly at the stage when it is scientifically obvious that each of those choices is indeed driven by genetic traits… It cuts both ways, either it is freedom of ALL sexual choices or it is the one that has Natural purpose.

      • Olo Baggins of Bywater says:

        either it is freedom of ALL sexual choices or it is the one that has Natural purpose.

        That kind of logic is fun.

      • Skip says:

        Animals can’t give consent. Humans can.

      • Animby says:

        “Genetic inclination”? I’m unaware of any authoritative evidence that zoophilia is a genetic disposition. If you know of such evidence, please provide a link or name. Thank you.

  5. sargasso_c says:

    I want to know Ron Paul’s position on this?

    • seetheblacksun says:

      Doggy style?

    • msbpodcast says:

      If its not mentioned or otherwise proscribed in the constitution, he doesn’t care one way or the other… Its left up to the states, counties or municipalities. (Which is just passing the buck as far as I’m concerned. You know they’ll just fuck it up 50 ways to Sunday.)

      • scandihoovian says:

        True, but it’s quite a bit easier to move to another state if your state decides to resurrect laws akin to Jim Crowe or worse. Moving to another country is a quite different matter. I for one, would enjoy more of that liberty.

        • msbpodcast says:

          Oh, you’re talking about universality of hegemony.

          That would utterly destroy the concept of a captive citizenry</i.

          Never going to officially happen…

          (There are legal ways around it though. [I should know… 🙂 ])

  6. Luc says:

    Would anyone put bestiality past those military types? They’re all nuts. Not in a good way.

  7. msbpodcast says:

    There is some, uh, laxness in the definition of sodomy. (It means shoving anything up anything’s ass.*)

    But the proscription against zoophily is still in effect. (Sorry all you people who thought you were in the clear.)

    This means that the first part of the old joke about “There goes Ranger Dan and his big dog, Dick” could still get you in trouble while the second part “There goes Ranger Dan and his big dog dick” means that Ranger Dan should consult his physician.

    *) If a male sheep is called a ram and a male mule is called as ass, why is a ram in in the ass called a goose?

    Thank you, thank you, I’ll be here all week. And remember tip your waitress well.

  8. #15--bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Speaking of silly gooses in a close tangential seque, it appears those of us posting Rick Perry was just getting early Alzheimers or a drug reaction were WRONG. He actually is perversely stoopid:

    Doesn’t know Lawrence v Texas and doesn’t seem to appreciate that the Court is ruling directly against the position he still clings to. Texas????? No hat, no cattle, no brains. But lots of just plain honest stupidity:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/perry-draws-blank-on-landmark-texas-anti-sodomy-supreme-court-case/

  9. jpfitz says:

    “Now I understand why politicains were so eager to pass this.”

    Goats, I must have lived a sheltered life. Representatives of our country now condone animal cruelty. The goats I knew were cars.

  10. deowll says:

    And how is this going to go over with our good friends in the middle East?

  11. John E. Quantum says:

    Well, f#ck a duck. Or get a small poodle and a jar of peanut butter.

  12. Glenn E. says:

    So now the horned beast is welcome in all the US military services. No longer just a mascot of the Navy, at football games. How did that ever happen? It’s a land animal. Shouldn’t it be a sea creature? I don’t know why it even has to be a live animal, anyway. Good thing they didn’t choose a shark or a sea snake as mascot.

    Clearly, this was to make life easier for the gays, in the services. But the powers that be, never said they’d be chuck the sodomy clause in the UCMJ, as part of ash-canning the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. Makes one wonder what else they plan to do, that they’re not too happy to make public right now? Service issued sex toys and lubricants?

    • msbpodcast says:

      I’m reminded of an old Scot pal of mine who used to go on about equipment usage problems in the regiment.

      Specifically having to buy bicycle patches and glue to apply to the regimental condom.

      Ach! It were terrible lad.

  13. What? says:

    “unnatural carnal copulation”

    Animals engage in this, therefore it is natual!

  14. Animby says:

    Obviously my exwife has joined the military and refuses to remain celibate.

  15. Barney franks says:

    free at last! free at last! i am free at last!

  16. Skeptic: Post # ≥1 says:

    Goats will eat anything.

  17. orchidcup says:

    Now we know why George W. Bush was reading “My Pet Goat” upside-down on 9/11. He was looking at the centerfold.

  18. AdmFubar says:

    Them Ewe Doers
    How about them Ewe Doers, Ain’t they news?
    Down in the pasture a doin’ them Ewes.
    Doin’ them big sheeps, doin’ them little
    Doin’ them lambs, hi-diddle-diddle!
    Look at them Ewe Doers, Ain’t they creeps?
    High boots on, chasin’ them sheeps.
    Them hooky dooky Ewe Doers, stompin’ through the weeds,
    movin’ them Ewies, fillin’ they needs.
    How to be a Ewe Doers? Ain’t much to it;
    Find a pretty sheep, and then you do it!

  19. Angel H. Wong says:

    Better to nail a goat in Afganistan than to knock up a woman there.

  20. dadeo says:

    Stuff like this really gets my goat!

  21. steelcobra says:

    Note the “unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex” part. That’s why it was removed, because up to this point same-sex relationships would still technically be illegal if consummated in the military.

    And I’m pretty sure bestiality is still covered, if nothing else, by the “catch-all” article of the UCMJ.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Now I understand why politicains were so eager to pass this.

    … They want to be innocent of any charges when we finally discover just how hard they’ve been sodomizing us – the public! After all, that’s very close to where most of us keep our money!!!

  23. Nugget Coombs says:

    The Kiwi blokes have been having there way with their sheep (Ewes) for years. It is their right of passage into Manhood

  24. Keith Richard Radford Jr says:

    Please tell everyone in Hollywood promoting sex laws I said they are pathetic:

    Take Hollywood for instance. Here you could tell the police where drugs are coming in to the city and how, and because the industry runs on the stuff, and the Hollywood drug slinger is too big too fail? Plus I am sure the cop next door could not sleep at night knowing the plus size actress next door did not get her fix.

    The people in charge go home to their wives who live on cocaine and diet pills, powder their nose and pay off a Judge or two online before going to bed, check on their Pay Pal account and the donations from people paying them to talk bad about sex offenders.

    These same movie moguls will point a finger at the same person who they hired answering service women to that talk suggestively to as client, or like the GoDaddy group that have the girls dance suggestively, to find anyone to set up, or send their own kids out to blackmail the mark to extort a favor or money for what ever they need in an effort of control through the I’m better than you
    mentality because look I go after the bad guys but even the cops/FBI or FED’s won’t go after the Mr. Big who is probably a CIA agent that started the whole thing or a DEA agent because we all know they deal.

    The problem with a probation sentence for a sex offense is simple. The man may as well have gotten the death penalty, since now he will lose his job, be forced on the street, unable to make ends meet, have people chasing him around, and effecting his health and sex treatment is the biggest joke of all when people need so badly to make sex a mental health issue as if being sexually attracted to anyone is a mental disorder. People have sex, kids have sex with or with out someone else involved, and humanity can not survive with out humans procreating.

    We have thousands of miles of nothing but land between big cities and we crowd up in high rises spending all our money on cops hunting down little guys and murdering them for a sex offense now that the laws have been written so obtuse that people are getting prison for attempted oral sex. The laws and movie makers have no conscience what so ever.

    The laws are ridiculous. The only way to contact congress (our law makers) is to get on Facebook and sex offenders can’t do that so when someone stabs, brakes bones of a sex offender they have no way of even reporting the crime to their representatives, These laws have become genocide plan and simple.

    Keith Richard Radford Jr
    818 527-806

  25. nilum says:

    Stuff like this is hidden in bills so that idiots like you would make the same retarded argument when they are repealed.

    Not a fan of NDAA, but I’m also not a fan of idiots.

    • scallywag says:

      Why is he an Idiot for finding this law “Nilum?” Did it hit a sore spot when he was making fun of beastiality?? We know your daddy is human and your mother is a pig.

  26. Rick says:

    What a ba-a-a-a-d law.

  27. Keith Richard Radford Jr says:

    here is nothing legal about sex laws. Sex laws have progressively gotten more punitive over the years to the point that a person traveling to visit a friend or relative must report within three days in each state, must register their whereabouts and is legally confined to state or local areas and in my humble opinion after so many years on this registry (25+) seems anyone in direct option of the power players use anyone as guided sex missiles standing to offer us a coupon for two breast so we can make an inappropriate comment or sexually interpreted action to put someone on the list, what is to keep the law from confining someone to a home/room/grave? Placing someone in the custody of an individual? Who is to say that individual does not only want more than their silver polished? What”s next? Maybe forcing someone to sleep with someone they don’t know to save them/room/prison for convenience/death to blanche our budget? Isn’t that what is already being done in Motels/Hotels/Prisons where sex offenders/political prisoners, are housed now? Say a kid whats to have sex with someone/masturbate/take off their own dipper, are they to be put to death for the desire or the desire to have sex with someone not within an idealistic age deemed appropriate, or say that someone is themselves through masturbation, what is the difference, when the outcome is a lifetime of monitoring by people that have no desire for companionship/intimacy/sex/ even love unconditionally? Sex laws are an imposition where law has no place too tread and what happens? Officers come and beat you up, throw you in jail and warn you to go back to a slaves existence created by unjust law? Is that not what happened in Egypt when Israel slaves chose to kill all first born children before going on the run and spending 40 year in the desert dodging another religion, and won’t that be the outcome in forty years all over again or something similar as these laws prove to reveal the final solutions again as they have again and again by the same people that have done this so many times and people are expected to register or die in prison? Put us in a situations where we can’t defend ourselfs from the law? The intimidation organized by law is wrong concerning sex. So quite frankly sex laws are sex slavery and the courts are the traffickers using law enforcement to facilitate the law of slavery to an unjust system of abuse of freedom to move about the country or even from town to town, apartment, to apartment, person to person through laws concerning sex and if equality were the goal then there would be no law, so then what is the ultimate goal as gender becomes the means by which a mother and her daughter can conspire to use men even their siblings through laws that have no defensive availability of proof other than word of mouth?

    I watched the person inject the little thing into my hand at that prison in San Luis Obispo and getting my arm fractured, back injured, home broken into by officers has only added to my convection against the people pushing these laws which must be ended and the power taken form the law that would give power to such people. Its time to stop or face a horrible future that has no good outcome when lies told are so easy to be seen as what they are and why they are told.

    Sex laws promote inequality between sex and sex is only the determination between mail and female so what people have made of sex through laws has nothing to do with the actual condition that is transpiring as a result of these laws. We have no democracy when people for political reasons set out to make laws so many years in advance that they start the process prior to the birth of a dying generation. These are facts and we are on a treadmill with no escape without a collective who are willing to open their minds to effect change. Please read my blog at,
    http://sosunite.blogspot.com/
    or call at 818 627-8060

    Best regards,
    Keith Richard Radford Jr

  28. John Rowlands says:

    @ Keith Richard Radford Jr: You said, and I quote- ‘a person traveling to visit a friend or relative must report within three days in each state, must register their whereabouts and is legally confined to state or local areas and in my humble opinion after so many years on this registry (25+).’
    1. Do you mean you are the person who has to report where you are?
    2. What ‘registry’ are you on- a sex offenders one?


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