Three beheadings in two different states and they happened here in the United States, not Mexico. Former DEA supervisor Phil Jordan says all three beheadings have cartel written all over them. They happened in Arizona and Oklahoma in the past year.

A murder mystery is now unraveling on a stretch of North Reservation Road in Tucson, Ariz. County workers found a headless man lying on the side of the road Jan. 6. The man’s hands and feet were reportedly missing, too.
“It would lead me to believe the message wanted to be sent. This is one of the ways they do it in Mexico, Colombia and other places,” says Jordan. Jordan says the cartels are getting bolder in carrying out their beheadings across the border. He says we only used to see these crimes in Mexico.

“They don’t have any borders,” says Jordan.

More than 600 miles from the border, a 19-year-old human trafficking victim was found beheaded in Oklahoma. Carina Saunders was stuffed into a bag and left in a grocery store parking lot. “People know if they get on the wrong side of the fence, they’ll be dealt with,” says Jordan. The police chief in the area says two men running the trafficking ring killed Saunders to send a message to the other victims. Jordan says the cartels’ calling card is all over this case. Trafficking and smuggling are their top moneymakers. Revenge is the price of doing business.

“Definitely a cartel hit,” says Jordan.

Stop the War on Drugs, and you stop the DEA from providing guns to the Cartels…Vote for Ron Paul, decriminalize drugs…and these guys go away, hopefully assholes like Eric Holder go away as well.



  1. Dr Spearmint Fur says:

    Well, this is the only way that pedro would get head.

  2. TThor says:

    T is the Prohibition Era all over again. Anybody reading history in government, Holder included? They will be eaten alive if they don’t back off and allow mild drugs like alcohol and grass to be produced and freely distributed. The people abusing get the stuff anyway, and exorbitant cost – that end up in the Mexican cartel pockets. The policy is extremely naive, cost a ton of money to uphold and puts millions in prison. This is all so immensely stupid!

    • ReadyKilowatt says:

      The War On Drugs™ has quite a few benefits to the state:

      1) It’s a jobs program. http://caseyresearch.com/cdd/rise-praetorian-class It’s a long post, but it makes a very good point. The DEA and the rest of the praetorian class is one of the largest job producing sectors today, and they wield incredible power over the political class. With the election cycle starting 6 months after the last election, no one wants to add to the unemployment rolls by actually cutting anything.

      2) It’s a revenue generator: http://gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm#1 One of many links with evidence (although old in this case) that the CIA uses drug money to fund operations. There’s no reason to believe the CIA doesn’t strong-arm legislators and the Executive branch to keep the status quo.

      3) (I think this is the main reason) It keeps dollars out of the US. Like the oil trade, the drug trade is typically done in US dollars. Money leaves the US and becomes black/gray market currency. This helps keep inflation down in the US while the central bank and the government continues to behave in a manor that would otherwise be very inflationary. This is also one of the reasons Saddam Hussein became evil in 2002 (he started making noise about selling oil to Europe for Euros instead of dollars, and I have a feeling why Iran is now developing nuclear weapons even though the IAEA says they aren’t (Iran sells a lot of oil to China, using dollars. I’m sure China would like to trade in Yuan).

      The goal of the DEA is not to stop drugs from entering the US, their goal is to raise the price of drugs on the street. Why? Because they are well aware that if they actually stop drug use 1) they’ll be out of work, 2) The CIA will need another source of funding, and 3) those dollars will eventually find their way back to the US, inflating the currency and making it harder for the FED to print.

      • Lou Minatti says:

        Most of us would agree that throwing stoners in jail is absurd. But I am not sure the Mexican gangs are created by pot growers. Isn’t it real problem the harder stuff that is more compact and has far higher value? Meth, cocaine, heroin, prescription narcotics, etc.? I can’t think of any society (maybe some lawless places) where meth is legal, and for good reason: It is deadly.

        Then again, perhaps it’s time to make all of this stuff legal, let those with addictive personalities ingest all the drugs they want, cull the heard and improve the gene pool.

        • LibertyLover says:

          I can’t think of any society (maybe some lawless places) where meth is legal, and for good reason: It is deadly.

          There are other things deadly, too, that are not illegal. Kids huffing liquid air. Perfectly good product and not illegal but it IS illegal to use it wrongly (WTF).

          Another — kids taking plastic bags, putting it over their head and the valve for the coolant on an outdoor AC unit, opening the valve, and inhaling coolant.

          People are gonna get high if they have to asphyxiate themselves. Educate them if you can but ultimately you can’t fix stupid.

          Basically, I’m agreeing with your latter statement.

        • orchidcup says:

          Methamphetamine is extremely cheap to manufacture and the ingredients are available anywhere.

          The cartels manufacture methamphetamine in Mexico because the main ingredient, pseudoephedrine, is now controlled here in the States.

          The bottom line is, drugs cannot be controlled if there is a demand for them. We should have learned that lesson with Prohibition.

          Legalizing drugs is not the same thing as decriminalization of drugs.

          Like alcohol, drugs can be decriminalized and controlled. We will still have alcoholics and drug addicts, but criminals would have a difficult time developing a black market for something that is available at the corner store.

  3. Tom says:

    You could have put that photo on after clicking ‘continue reading’, with a warning of NSFW and very graphic. ugh

  4. Buckit says:

    Last time I visit this site during lunch

  5. #58--bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist AND social critic says:

    I’d link to another severed head found near the Hollywood Sign in LA, recently put there as there are no animal bites on it, “but” no indication yet this head severing was drug related. I certainly don’t want to get on any band wagon giving drug dealers a bad name.

  6. Dallas says:

    Time to change the picture! Replace it with an equally disturbing head but somewhat functioning head, say Rush Limbaugh?

    • pedro says:

      Another person that makes beheading a waste of time. You should move to Mexico, you’ll be safe there.

  7. skunkman62 says:

    i really didnt need to see that picture.

  8. George says:

    Has any ever done a serious study on what effect the war on drugs has done on the rate of usage of illegal drugs? What are the benefits of the religious-like zeal of keeping recreational drugs illegal? It seems drugs are quite easy to obtain now, so how much worse can it be?

    Drug wars, foreign wars, and giving out welfare and benefits to corporations and people who won’t work are luxuries for countries who are awash in extra money. They aren’t necessities when the government is borrowing 40% of the money it is spending.

    • orchidcup says:

      Has any ever done a serious study on what effect the war on drugs has done on the rate of usage of illegal drugs?

      Here is an interesting article on that subject:

      Top 10 Unhealthy Side Effects of the War on Drugs

      What are the benefits of the religious-like zeal of keeping recreational drugs illegal?

      Alcohol is a recreational drug that is legal, but controlled.

      Consult your American History textbook to learn about the results of Prohibition.

      It seems drugs are quite easy to obtain now, so how much worse can it be?

      Good question. Do you have a reasonable answer?

      • scandihoovian says:

        There’s too much money to ever decriminalize drugs when you have a growing and very profitable, privatized judicial system. Good luck! (still voting RP though.)

  9. t0llyb0ng says:

    It’s not about “wanting” to see a picture.  It’s reality in your face.  Uncensored things aren’t always pretty.  Guy on the left looks like he had a bad day.

    Genuine ugliness will come to the “homeland” when our wonderful politicians finally implode the economy & utilities no longer function.  Here we were scared of nukes when all along it was US we needed to be worried about.

    Oh, & bloodthirsty is one word.

  10. t0llyb0ng says:

    bandwagon is one word
    no hyphen in rejoin

    & ain’t the war on drugs swell?

    We’re winning it!  We’re almost there!  All we need to do is tighten down the screws some more.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Stop the War on Drugs, and you stop the DEA from providing guns to the Cartels…Vote for Ron Paul, decriminalize drugs…and these guys go away, hopefully assholes like Eric Holder go away as well.

    I too don’t like Eric Holder. But I’m not sure I agree with the logic here. Because, once a criminal – ALWAYS A CRIMINAL! (Hasn’t Eric himself taught you that?)

    You really need to understand that “decriminalization” is not necessarily legalization. All you do by decriminalizing something is wind up stuffing the lower courts with more cases since you essentially just move felony cases over to misdemeanors. Either way, the current drug trade is still going to be “illegal.”

    And as long as there is a demand for an illegal product “decriminalizing” possession, transportation, sale or even consumption doesn’t necessarily mean that any of the criminals are going to go away either. In fact, decriminalization may actually result in an increase in criminal numbers. Because once criminals realize they will never do any real jail time or pay heavy penalties (like they do now) for breaking drug laws more and more of them may decide to try and work the market.

    The only answer is to totally legalize drugs and move it to a safer setting where it can be regulated, controlled and possibly even taxed! Decriminalization is not the answer. Out and out legalization is necessary in order to take the bread (money) out of the mouths of criminal gangs and cartels.

    And quite frankly, if you want to stop the border wars then all you really need to do there is start shooting! (What parts of “invasion” or “war” don’t you understand?!)

  12. orchidcup says:

    Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work?

    The paper, published by Cato in April, found that in the five years after personal possession was decriminalized, illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined and rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped, while the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled.

    “Judging by every metric, decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success,” says Glenn Greenwald, an attorney, author and fluent Portuguese speaker, who conducted the research. “It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does.”

  13. t0llyb0ng says:

    Too bad, but we have to do one thing at a time or nothing happens.  Baby step by baby step.

    Step 1.  Marijuana.  De facto decriminalization of  MJ via non-enforcement.  Cops know it’s “illegal” but it’s at the bottom of any priority they have.

    Step 2.  Stop classifying marijuana as a Schedule I narcotic.  It’s not a narcotic, nor does it belong in Schedule I.  Stop calling things by the wrong name.

    Step 3.  Get Jeebus out of our decision-making.  He’s been gone 2,000 years & he ain’t comin’ back.  Besides, He would be indifferent to MJ if He could weigh in today.

    Step 4.  Recognition that MJ is a Good Thing.  “A tokey a day keeps Alzheimer at bay.”

    Step 5.  Recognition by the powers-that-be that marijuana laws are unenforceable & counterproductive.  There’s the tough one.  Thick skulls can take decades to penetrate & generally they need to just die off.

    Cocaine doesn’t need to be illegal either.  Once Step 5 above has been accomplished for MJ, lather rinse & repeat for coca.

    Next up:  magic mushrooms—a wondrous sacrament if there ever was one.

  14. Muddauber says:

    What happened to the gruesome photo? You want comments, but provide no comment!?

  15. retroman81 says:

    You took the photo and you want to call out other media for same stuff,f u all I’m off this hypocrite site

  16. orchidcup says:

    Step 1. Marijuana. De facto decriminalization of MJ via non-enforcement. Cops know it’s “illegal” but it’s at the bottom of any priority they have.

    Outside of the Bible Belt this is true. Inside the Bible Belt, mood-altering drugs are sinful unless they are pharmaceuticals prescribed by a personal physician.

    Step 2. Stop classifying marijuana as a Schedule I narcotic. It’s not a narcotic, nor does it belong in Schedule I. Stop calling things by the wrong name.

    Hemp is the correct name, and it is a useful plant for many purposes.

    Step 3. Get Jeebus out of our decision-making. He’s been gone 2,000 years & he ain’t comin’ back. Besides, He would be indifferent to MJ if He could weigh in today.

    Jesus made wine from water. Wine is a mood-altering drug. Case closed.

    Step 4. Recognition that MJ is a Good Thing. “A tokey a day keeps Alzheimer at bay.”

    Hemp is also an anti-depressant and a pain-killer, among other things.

    Step 5. Recognition by the powers-that-be that marijuana laws are unenforceable & counterproductive. There’s the tough one. Thick skulls can take decades to penetrate & generally they need to just die off.

    It is truly difficult to control a plant that grows like a weed.

    • pedro says:

      What the frack does MJ have to do with the hard drugs the cartels are moving?

  17. Glenn E. says:

    The only reason we probably don’t hear about this on the mainstream news. Is likely said news organizations have yet to figure out how to spin it, to the political view point they prefer we had. Most likely a “pro-war” one. The same way they helped steer the US into a war with Iraq and Afghanistan, over the actions of a hand full of terrorists, not even from there.

  18. orion3014 says:

    Why sheepole expect a criminal organization such as the USG( that openly supports narco-terrorism) to do anything as dramatic as solving the “war on drugs” will forever be a mystery of the ages.
    The new game for the future poor will not be “kick the can”, but rather, kick the head down the road…when , and only when, heads of political gangsters , hacks, and filthy rich “capitalists” start showing up under the HOLLYWOOD sign, well then maybe you’ll see a change for the better, but don’t hold your breath. Prayer and voting will not solve this nightmare…

  19. #84--bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist AND social critic says:

    McCullough–you couldn’t find an image more on point? Or on point at all?

    I am taken by how dramatic your first image was. It was “shocking” and really made this thread stand out in bold.

    Its been awhile–don’t you have the coding to hide the image and you have to click on it to reveal it?===best of both worlds: respecting the sensitivities of many who come here while ALSO respecting the need for relevance of the rest of us?

    Only a little more work. I don’t think there is a right or wrong response/approach to this issue==just an approach that takes a direction. What satisfy a few when you can satisfy almost everyone?

    Let me go look for an image: start 6:08…….6:10. Yep. Googled death then drugs, lots of choices. Then (cartel violence) and every image you DON’T want to see is right there. Like any open air meat market…..and then…..you look more closely.

    Lets see: whats about the only way to make this kind of violence happen in civilized societies? Oh yeah—make drugs illegal. ONly those with high security fences and private guards support programs like this. Rick and protected.

  20. Norm says:

    Really, that boarder fence will not stop them, it’s bullshit.

    To say that cartel violence has not crossed over is bullshit….since the 70′s it’s been here.

    And to call that 19 year-old a VICTIM is bullshit.

    Norm