The focus of a fierce suburban congressional battle turned from the economy to abortion literally overnight following Republican Rep. Joe Walsh’s controversial declaration that there’s no medical necessity to use the procedure to save a woman’s life.

“With modern technology and science, you can’t find one instance,” Walsh declared in comments to reporters after a televised debate Thursday night against Democrat Tammy Duckworth in the northwest suburban 8th District race…

…The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said 600 women die annually in the U.S. from pregnancy and childbirth-related causes. Comments like those from Walsh, the group said in a statement, were ample reason why politicians need to “get out of our exam rooms.”

“Walsh’s comments have no grounding in science and are completely inaccurate,” said Dr. Cassing Hammond, an associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine…

Dr. David Grimes took issue with anti-abortion politicians who view “women as some kind of Tupperware container that holds the fetus for nine months.”

The unfolding controversy stepped on Walsh’s key political message about slashing government. It also spurred critics to compare him with Republican Rep. Todd Akin, another staunch abortion foe who famously damaged his once front-running Missouri U.S. Senate campaign by proclaiming that a rape victim’s body would not allow her to become pregnant.

Duckworth, who supports abortion rights, also took aim at Walsh. “I am flabbergasted that he is that out of touch with science,” she said.

No one really expects the Kool Aid Party to give up on a good thing. They’re raking in money and power that might challenge the take that right-wing fundamentalist sects suck from their followers. And it’s an opportunity for bottom feeders who never would have achieved power and position in, say, the Republican Party of Eisenhower or Bob Dole – or George Romney.

  1. shooff says:

    Who will be paying for all these un aborted babies.

    Have a look at Teen Mom on MTV. Most look like whores for hand outs.

    Minority women have most abortions. Few pundits on abortion are minority women.

    Come to think of it must abortion activists are old white dudes.

    Think about it. They need an army. If we keep the Mexicans out we will soon have a negative birth rate.

    Talk about raising taxes….fill the hospitals with poor desperate minority infants, then the schools, then the prisons.

    Maybe Tag can adopt a few. His guys don’t swim because Mormon are inbred.

    • dusanmal says:

      “Who will be paying for all these un aborted babies.” – the idea is to place burden and responsibility on those whose responsibility that truly is – parents. If people knew that they’ll be held responsible and pay in effort and money, they’ll think better before starting the process. The idea is to buildup responsibility across the population. For abortion, healthcare, work,… No nanny state to help to reckless and if really in need – no infinite help forever, you must pull yourself up or discarded. Without such feedback you get Greece or worse. You get irresponsible masses enslaved by the Government. Than, soon you get Hitler or Stalin equivalent to raise hell.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        I don’t mind paying for un aborted babies, and I’m certain many pro life people don’t either.

        Certainly better use of my tax dollars than progressive anti poverty programs today…that create dependent illiterate democrats who vote for more freeloading…

        there oughta be a law against spawning useless Democrats…

        • Mayor Bloomburger says:

          Awesome. So, how many kids have you adopted exactly? Sounds like dozens.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Its well documented liberals only help others, when its someone else’s money.

            Every comparison of Conservative versus Progressive charitable giving, shows libs are quite miserly with their own money.

            I support Voice of the Martyrs, who do help many children of persecuted Christians.

            I help my own.

            You progressives need to get out of our pockets and help your own…

            Every stool eater, sodomite pervert who gets sick, should be able to count on your financial support for medical help.

            But do you help them….no…you want to force the rich to help them…but you won’t lift your little finger to help them at all…

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            And this in spite of the fact—as a stool eating sodomonite Democrat, he shares many progressive beliefs…

            Its a form of self hate you don’t help them.

          • Sam says:

            Your correct…. These people are effing hypocrites.. They are big talkers and do nothing! There are almost 500,000 kids in foster homes in the U.S alone and I don’t see them lining up to adopt these kids. They only say they have morals but they have none…

        • shooff says:


          That’s what today’s anti-poverty programs are.

          44% of BYU students pay for their children’s birth with Medicaid.

          So that is okay?

          Hmmm sounds like Mitt’s school has the most hypocrites. They are married, the wife should work….oh wait, that’s against Mormon belief.

          Careful what you wish for.

  2. Dallas says:

    Why do Teapublicans hate women? In order to reproduce and cook, women are necessary.

  3. Slartybartfaust says:

    As election time draws near, it seems more and more Republicans are finally seeing the absurdity of their party’s message, and have proclaimed EXTREME views in order to torpedo their chances. It is not like the other side is that much better, but at least their core values do not seem to center around the archaic notion that women should be kept in the kitchen and be barefoot and pregnant (barefoot, I can go along with, there are too many foot problems associated with high heels)

  4. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Is he right?

    Does a baby ever threaten the life of a mother?

    Why couldn’t it be surgically removed without endangering the mother?

    Its good presumption be challenged. Just how exactly does a baby threaten a mother’s life, in the 21st century. Perhaps in the 18th century, but in the 21st?

    • So what says:

      Nice to see your knowledge of biology is as consistently lacking as usual.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        So detail precisely why 21st century medicine couldn’t save both the mother and child…

        how the child’s birth would necessarily result in the death of the mother.

        You lefties smear everyone who questions your presumptions, that’s why you all are a clear and present danger to our liberty…

        small minded smear merchants whose end product is tyranny…as history definitely informs us.

        • So what says:

          I could explain basic reproductive biology to you but I can’t understand it for you.

          For someone who professes a faith in god (the greatest murder and abortionist in history), you now want to put your faith in medical science. Pick a religion and stick with it, every body hates a flip flopper.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Your misdirection and venom indicates your agenda doesn’t allow truth talking.

            A baby never threatens the life of its mother….that 21st century medical treatment couldn’t prevent.

            Clearly Joe Walsh raised a valid objection…

            Just as clear, you can’t reason on a proposition in a sound manner…everything is leftist agenda spin to you.

          • anon says:

            @Taxed Enough Already Dude

            So I guess that the “600 women [who] die annually in the U.S. from pregnancy and childbirth-related causes” (in the 21st century) are all examples of malpractice?

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            You failed to prove an abortion would have saved their life===the child was not the reason for the death.

            And if abortion would have saved their lives….why didn’t they?


          • Tippis says:

            It’s rather difficult to die from pregnancy or child-birth related causes if the pregnancy is terminated…

            Babies threaten the lives of their mothers the same way now as they have for the last, oh, 200,000 years or so. We may be better at saving the mothers (and occasionally even the babies if they’re old enough), but the threats are the same as ever.

            And yes, 21st century medical treatment can prevent those threats… by removing the baby.

          • So what says:

            Venom? No, just casting a spotlight on your hypocrisy.

            As I suspected a day on the lake with family and friends was both more enjoyable and productive then trying to explain fifth grade biology to you.

        • Hyph3n says:

          Look up ectopic pregnancy for one. It’s where pregnancy occurs outside the womb.

        • Grey Bird says:

          Ever heard of toxemia (aka preeclampisa)? “If preeclampisa is not treated quickly and properly, it can lead to serious complications for the mother such as liver or renal failure, future cardiovascular issues and two other conditions directly related to preecplamsia that can be life threatening.” Do you understand what the phrase “life threatening” means?

    • Sam says:

      Do you schmucks ever use google? ok here is on of many reasons. ectopic pregnancy. In an ectopic pregnancy, the newly conceived human being implants on the wall of the fallopian tube (or some other tissue) instead of on the wall of the uterus. As the embryonic human being grows, the fallopian tube will rupture causing severe blood loss and death of the mother. In these cases, there is no way to save the child’s life. If we do nothing, both human beings will die

  5. dusanmal says:

    “The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said 600 women die annually in the U.S. from pregnancy and childbirth-related causes” – and yet they do not state if any of those cases would be treatable by abortion (and if not – why haven’t it had been done as it is legal?). All of those cases are due to acute illness, mostly in very late stage of pregnancy. Problem is inability to react quickly enough and treat, not abortion. Again, none of those cases would be resolved by an act of abortion and that is where supporters lie for ideological purposes.
    Actual legal and ethical problems are:
    1) At which stage embryo is not an embryo but a human with rights, separate from the mother? Left wants to define that by being outside of mother. Further Left does not find even that enough (including our current President) and want right to kill a baby already outside the mother in case it survives abortion attempt. Even further Left (including one of Supreme Court Lefties) wants right to kill a child up to an age of two… Further Right wants to ban abortion altogether. Right wants to place a limit. Scientific limit. Right now there many cases of premature babies born after 5+ months of gestation who lived. That is the clear scientific limit: after 5 months, child gets rights and is not part of mothers body but mothers dependent. Every effort must be done to save its life from this point. Also if our technology achieves living, surviving infants after 4, 3, 2, … months of gestation, that is the new latest possible date for legal abortion and the date of full human rights, transition from embryo to a human.
    2) What to do if woman’s life is indeed endangered and indeed could be saved by the removal of the embryo or scientifically decided full human with his own rights? In case of embryo, there is no question. In case of above described human with rights law must be to do everything medically possible to save both. Not giving more rights to either. While Left would want right to kill one human just for the selfishness of the other.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      I’d gladly pay a special tax to raised these unwanted babies as I’m sure every anti abortionist would.

      We would gladly leave this tax optional so the left wouldn’t get any credit for raising these kids.

      We will be sure to inform them, if it were left to progressives, they’d be dead.

      That’s fair. Perhaps as these grow in number, they will remember it was those progressives who, now requiring tax payer supported health care….didn’t want to spend a dime to keep them alive, but were happy to spend money to kill them.

      • So what says:


        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          Not lying at all. I support charities that raised unwanted kids….

          Nor is it lying these children be given a chance to repay elderly and sick progressives who, when the roles are reversed…expect these children pay to keep them alive…

          Its called justice…fairness….equal outcome…principles you leftist bastards cite when they favor you….

          Freeloaders must die, I say that metaphorically of course.

          • So what says:

            Your eyes are brown aren’t they.

            What happened to smaller government, personal responsibility, staying out of peoples bedrooms and personal lives. Oh that’s right just more lies from the revolutionary right.

            You parents sent your sister off to live with your aunt before she had you didn’t they.

            Oops was that a family secret.

            Although that would explain the genetic inbreeding explicit in your comment and politics.

            Sunny day and 80 off to the lake for a day on the water.

            P.S. What is the purpose of the human eye?

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            While I was saying that metaphorically, I hope those saved from the Progressive Grim Reaper are figuratively challenged….if they repeat it.

      • shooff says:

        I’m not paying it.

        Give the those Mormon girls and Catholic girls birth control and jobs.

        Not my tax money.

        Taxed enough is the biggest B.S. er on here. He’s has not clue.

        Bet his daughter has an out of wed lock birth or a dead beat son.

    • ECA says:


      fully LEGAL, 4..
      so CLINCH TIGHT as the foot ball is exiting your anal cavity.

  6. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Not one of you pro abortion folks answered Joe Walsh:

    “With modern technology and science, you can’t find one instance,”

    Until you cite an instance where a birth would kill its mother despite modern technology and science, your leftist spin against his statement is irrational.

    • xphilezz says:

      They can’t, that’s why ACOG and others introduced the straw man of women who die during childbirth. There are plenty of physicians on both sides of the issue, from C. Everett Koop to Alan Guttmacher, who acknowledge there are no conditions where abortion would save the life of the mother.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        You refer to straw man arguments, and cite authorities who agree with Walsh…

        You are really asking for it here at DU. The usual smear merchants are no doubt taking aim as I type.

  7. MikeN says:

    With the current state of affairs, Republicans benefit immensely. Pro-life is the dominant position, and is the primary reason why Republicans are able to occasionally win the Catholic vote, which is more prominent in swing states. At the same time, abortion never gets banned, so Republicans get to kill off Democratic voters, a million net votes each year.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Now that is cynical.

      • MikeN says:

        No, it’s true. You think all those Republican politicians are actually pro-life? They are the ones who push rule changes to make it harder for Ron Paul or any other challenger. They consider the pro-lifers an inconvenience they must put up with. Kansas Republicans finally threw out that lot. Now maybe they will find the documents that were destroyed, and be able to put Planned Parenthood in jail.

  8. ECA says:

    WHO is educating these people?
    ASK his wife (is he gay?) if she had a C section??
    Then ask him Why she HAD to have a C section??

    Until the last 30 years.
    Pre-birth of a child was VERY VERY difficult. A birth before full gestation.

    COST for a pre-mature birth?? $50,000+

    Does this person know of the average Death rates for women to give birth Over the years?? ITS RIDICULOUS..

    Nature does a good job, but below 1% is pretty good, even tho its gone up recently..

    has the loss of DICTIONARY become a loss to education??
    SOMEONE feed this person medical FACTS..he has to much BS in his system.

  9. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    As a far left loon stool eating progressive I agree the SCIENCE is that there are very few abortions required to save the life of the mother. Ectopic pregnancies certainly fit that category. TV show House has presented a few other rare cases.

    The issue is only relevant after the second trimester whereas the great majority of abortions take place in the first two.

    Every child should be wanted with taxes raised, or atleast spent, on programs for kiddies WITH parents who still need more help: eg: school lunch and health programs.

    Most people are pro-choice with the polls being answered with the assumption that this right is Constitutionally Protected so it is “devalued” by those who have an interest in it. I’d think if the Pukes had their way and restricted the right more than they have there would eventually be a backlash. With the attention given to the subject this election, that may be doubtful. Voters are stupid. Just another example of people (men and women and small government advocates and libertarians everywhere) voting against their own self interests.

    Another example of people not comfortable with FREEEEEDOM: leaving other people alone. Anyone can have what ever moral position they wish but what is this fervor to force one’s own morality onto other people?

    If you haven’t read Roe v Wade, you have a huge gap in your understanding of all the applicable issues. Its a bit dense, but readable—the history, the science, religion, morality of the issue. What is a human being etc. Its all right there.

    Here is a teaser from the second paragraph: “One’s philosophy, one’s experiences, one’s exposure to the raw edges of human existence, one’s religious training, one’s attitudes toward life and family and their values, and the moral standards one establishes and seeks to observe, are all likely to influence and to color one’s thinking and conclusions about abortion.”

    Educate yourself. Become a better Hooman. Just Look>>>>>>>>

  10. Dallas says:

    Why do Teapublicans want to get into my crotch ? We need less government in our crotch area.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Ha, ha Dallas squeal like a pig but there is still a lot of “male” in you. This post/issue is not about your crotch at all. ….. not that crotches aren’t important mind you.

      I think you have the good humor to reassess once the simple truth is pointed out?

      • Dallas says:

        Well, I gotta listen to the thin, I confess. I’m not entire sure what they’re bitching about about . My religion mandates sex with a male and I want to exercise my religious freedoms.

  11. GregAllen says:

    Duckworth is awesome. Walsh is stupid.

    This is the choice in many districts this year.

    Inexplicably, lots of conservatives are going to vote for stupid over awesome.

  12. MikeN says:

    Since this post Republicans netted another 1000 votes from the abortions that happened.

    • Dallas says:

      Even Alphie finds your comment bizarre and irrational

      • MikeN says:

        Oh no, as the president would say, it’s math. It’s why Jesse Jackson was opposed to abortion back when McGovern was winning the nomination. He stayed that way until he realized the feminists had taken over and there was no hope for him politically without flipping. That plus he needed woman to have abortion to keep from paying child support.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        That’s incorrect, he’s got a point. I said its cynical.

        Abortion denuding Democrat rolls, which is why the DNC enlists undocumented Democrats pouring in through Arizona, to vote often.

    • MikeN says:

      It is now at least 2000 votes for Republicans.

  13. Grandpa says:

    The Women have chosen food over abortions, jobs over contraceptives. The Republicans win…

  14. Alfie says:

    A con man is a con man, even if he is a politician.

  15. MikeN says:

    Need more posts from the Eiditor like this. Need to distract from Obama’s incompetence at least through the election. Donald Trump is coming with big news on Wednesday about Obama.
    Media has managed to cover for Obama on the Benghazi disaster. 7 hours and not sending the military in from the Mediterranean.

    • Sam says:

      While you are fake raging about 4 dead in Bengazi. Where is your outrage over the unnecessary deaths of 6,000 plus in Iraq and Afghanistan and the 60,000 maimed who are now back home in the U.S. all caused and at the hands of those lying sacks Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell and Wolfowitz.

      Your just another conservative BS artist!!

      • Dallas says:

        <3. "Fake raging" ! I love it.

        The Pugs do need something to have their sheepke get outraged over ! A terrorist attack is good for now.

        As a true conservative Catholic, I'm outraged that Mormonism is no longer a cult. Although this declaration occurring before the elections is a mere coincidence, I'm hoping cult status will be on the books again by year end.

      • MikeN says:

        3 quarters of Afghanistan deaths happened with Obama in charge.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      What’s Trump’s big news…if he says its big…it is.

      I’m looking forward to it.

      Likely proof positive Obama is Kenyan born…precisely as his grandmother said…before the Obama campaign shut her up….

      Or that he personally dismissed the security for the Ambassador, worried their presence might offend some Muslims…

      NASA just wasn’t given enough time to enlighten those who killed our Ambassador, shouting Allah Akbar….of all the inventions that came from Islam….like the car, radio, phone, tv….oh….wait a minute…. Bukhara, yeah…that’s the ticket…

  16. MikeN says:

    Since this post was put up, the liberal Democratic agenda of abortion has killed more than 3000 babies, netting Republicans 3000 votes in the 2032 elections.

  17. MikeN says:

    And why hasn’t Uncle Dave posted Lee Ungar’s conspiracy theory of Romney’s family’s investments in voting machines?

  18. shooff says:

    Mike N might be right about this.

    Note the Catholic Birthrate and Bill Clinton forced the Unionist to the bargaining table in Northern Ireland.

    Soon Catholics will out number Unionist in Ulster, they had no choice.

  19. t0llyb0ng says:

    whores for hand outs sb handouts

    I like this concept of “un aborted babies,” though a free-floating “un” is a red flag.

    No hyphen in childbirth
    taxpayer is one word

    Q.  What is the purpose of the human eye?
    A.  Watching porn.

    wedlock is one word.
    strawman is one word
    No hyphen in premature

    Q.  What is this fervor to force one’s own morality onto other people?
    A.  Evangelism.  & a basic misunderstanding of the definition of morality.  IOW, if you think your morality is my morality, you are mistaken. Not gonna happen.

  20. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    “My morality informs me that……” //// Means only that THE LAW and the majority consensus of society that THE LAW represents disagrees with “your morality.” It is an objective declaration that your position/argument has LOST in the marketplace of ideas but you think cloaking your minority view in morality will give it some kind of boost. Sad thing is… it does. There is nothing more moral about the pro life position than there is in the pro-choice position than there is in the pro-abortion position than there is in the mandatory abortion position. They are all simply positions with consequences both pro and con. Weigh the elements, add up both sides, take vote, and live by the results.

    Recognize you “should” be able to live your life by your morals but not control other people by the same. That is what FREEEEEEDOM means.

    ……. but then, most people are fascist of one sort or another all flowing from the ego.

    Silly Hoomans.

  21. Deehexi says:

    when you speak of teenage pregnancies…How about educating them on how NOT to get pregnant, giving out free contaceptives at schools etc… but wait, noooo, sex is a taboo for the US citizens. Giving a teenager a doll to ‘practise’ being a parent doesn’t do a damn thing. These are dolls, for heaven’s sake… Sex ed from 4th grade on. Works in my country pretty well. They all know, but what they do with it is their problem. The US is pretty old fashioned (or prude) when it comes to sex…blurring a babies genitals on TV is a joke… Just my opinion…

    • MikeN says:

      A very significant portion of abortions are with mothers who were using contraception.


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