Christian conservatives, for more than two decades a pivotal force in American politics, are grappling with Election Day results that repudiated their influence and suggested that the cultural tide — especially on gay issues — has shifted against them.

They are reeling not only from the loss of the presidency, but from what many of them see as a rejection of their agenda. They lost fights against same-sex marriage in all four states where it was on the ballot, and saw anti-abortion-rights Senate candidates defeated and two states vote to legalize marijuana for recreational use.

It is not as though they did not put up a fight; they went all out as never before: The Rev. Billy Graham dropped any pretense of nonpartisanship and all but endorsed Mitt Romney for president. Roman Catholic bishops denounced President Obama’s policies as a threat to life, religious liberty and the traditional nuclear family. Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition distributed more voter guides in churches and contacted more homes by mail and phone than ever before.

“Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. “It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out.

“It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them…”

The election results are just one indication of larger trends in American religion that Christian conservatives are still digesting, political analysts say. Americans who have no religious affiliation — pollsters call them the “nones” — are now about one-fifth of the population over all, according to a study released last month by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

The younger generation is even less religious: about one-third of Americans ages 18 to 22 say they are either atheists, agnostics or nothing in particular. Americans who are secular are far more likely to vote for liberal candidates and for same-sex marriage. Seventy percent of those who said they had no religion voted for Mr. Obama, according to exit polls conducted by Edison Research.

This election signaled the last where a white Christian strategy is workable,” said Robert P. Jones, chief executive of the Public Religion Research Institute, a nonprofit, nonpartisan research and education organization based in Washington.

“Barack Obama’s coalition was less than 4 in 10 white Christian,” Dr. Jones said. “He made up for that with not only overwhelming support from the African-American and Latino community, but also with the support of the religiously unaffiliated.”

The lone atheist in the office ain’t so alone anymore. The agnostic on the shop floor may not call himself – or herself – an agnostic; but, that’s the appropriate characterization of their attitude to religion. The dozens of young women and men in the halls of academia who are “nones” ain’t about to turn round and decrease in number because some old fart in the Confederacy says they are sinners.

The times they are a’changing. More like Darwin – than Dylan ever imagined.

  1. ECA says:

    I hate to be the first on this, BUT…

    MORALS are for the individual, NOT a NATION of people.
    If the individuals had morals, you would see it in there every day life and things Change according to those Running the country..
    But, we are a nation of Many people and beliefs.

    The Rules for Humans are basic, and unchanging.
    The rules for government are to PROTECT the people..NOT the corp, not other nations, and NOT the Church.

    • stormtrooper 651 says:

      so pedophile eidard again with the racist sub text that angry blacks belong on the democrat plantation, any who attempt to move away illegally should be branded uncle tom house niggas and hunted down.
      i’m a neutral on this and prefer not to comment on the darwinian eugenics reference.

      • stormtrooper 651 says:

        some might argue the only way to protect our blacks is to pass laws against religions to prevent them from trying to persuade them from acting against the party, but I don’t know enough about this and have no opinion either way.

  2. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Incorrect, the majority wanted something from Government and Democrats are the party of stuff from Government:

    So I said, “Let me ask you a question. Let’s go back to Republican convention.” I point out we’ve got more elected Hispanics, the Republican Party does, than the Democrats in elective office, federal, state, local, all over the country, far more elected Hispanics than the Democrats have. At the Democrat convention, Condoleezza Rice, one of the most achieved, accomplished people in our country, happens to be female African-American. Suzanne Martinez, the Hispanic Latino governor of New Mexico, achieved, successful. Marco Rubio, Hispanic, Republican, Senate. And the list goes on.

    There are quite a few minority participants at the Republican convention. I said, “What did they all have in common?” They all had an up from nothing story, their families or themselves came from nothing. Their families sacrificed for them, and they engaged in hard work, and they overcame all kinds of obstacles to reach the pinnacle of their profession, and then I said, “Why doesn’t that count?” Well, there’s an answer to why that doesn’t count. The hard work story doesn’t resonate, folks. I hate to tell you, but it’s not resonating with Obama voters. We don’t have a demography problem, but the Republican Party today is convinced that they do, and so there are discussions ongoing right now,…

    There’s also, ladies and gentlemen, a piece by Heather Mac Donald. Heather Mac Donald is a demographic researcher. She is a conservative libertarian, I think. She’s at the Manhattan Institute. She is highly reputed, highly respected throughout the conservative academy, the genuine conservative academy. And she had a piece yesterday that just blew me away. And then the Wall Street Journal today has an editorial and it couldn’t be further apart.

    They’re talking about immigrants.

    Now, the Wall Street Journal says what most every conservative says: People immigrate to this country for a better life. They come here and they want to find the American dream. They come here and they want to get a job and they want to work and they want to find their way in our culture and climb the ladder and so forth. Heather Mac Donald’s piece yesterday said that’s not true. Let me read to you what she said.

    “It is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond…” In other words, Hispanic voters are not voting for Democrats because they’re for amnesty. Hispanic voters are not voting for Democrats because they’re for open borders. That’s not why Hispanics vote for Democrats, according to her research. The reason they vote for Democrats is the reason anybody else votes for Democrats.

    Santa Claus!

    My term, not hers, but I’ll just read what she says here. “It is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond between Hispanics and the Democratic [P]arty, but the core Democratic principles of a more generous safety net, strong government intervention in the economy, and progressive taxation. Hispanics will prove to be even more decisive in the victory of Governor Jerry Brown’s Proposition 30, which raised upper-income taxes and the sales tax, than in the Obama election.”

    Okay. These simply say that we better be honest here. They’re voting Democrat not ’cause of immigration policy. They’re not voting Democrat ’cause of open border. The border’s already open. They’re voting Democrat ’cause the Democrats are the party of free stuff and raising taxes — “progressive taxation” — on the rich to pay for it. Now, you put that together with the fact that three million Republicans didn’t vote, and then you add to the mix that the Republicans think they lost because they are not for amnesty.

    I’m telling you, I don’t know what you can do but laugh at the futility of it all. It’s not funny. I don’t want you misunderstand. But in the panic of defeat, in the aftermath here — and, by the way, all the smartest thinking on our side is agreeing. “We’ve gotta do something. We gotta moderate our amnesty position.” That’s not at all why the Democrats enjoy a majority of the Hispanic vote.

    Let me put it to you this way, folks. If it were true that the primary reason that people (illegal immigrants) were coming here is to work, then Democrat Party would be the ones building the fence on the border. Why do you think the Democrats welcome them? Why do you think the Democrats want amnesty? They know that they’ve got them as voters. Why do they have them as voters?

    Not because they’re open borders. The Republicans fall for this. La Raza has their meetings and their protests and demand the borders be opened, and the Republicans believe what is said about them, that they’re hated and disliked because they’re exclusive and they don’t want amnesty. So the Republicans say, “Okay, we gotta be more inclusive.”

    You can’t look at the Republican convention this past summer and say the Republicans are not inclusive. The only way you can say the Republicans are not inclusive is because the Republicans are not willing to ignore the law. But it is a feint. It is a head fake. It’s a trick. Just like, “Don’t criticize the president! That’ll really tick off the independents.

    … if immigration was about work, the Democrats would be down there building the fence to stop it, but I mean, we are in the middle of some fundamental shifts in this country. And we are, if not outnumbered, we’re on the way, folks. I wasn’t just trying to use scare tactics yesterday. It used to be — in fact, you go back to Reagan, Reagan voted amnesty in 1986, Simpson-Mazzoli was the name of the bill. Three million illegals were given amnesty, three million. That was said to be the end of it. We’re gonna get really tough on it. Of course, that didn’t happen.

    Hispanics that were beneficiaries of amnesty back then, still hate Republicans. Even though it was the Republican Party that gave ’em the amnesty back in 1986. Why doesn’t that last? It used to be that immigration was about jobs, and the concern was jobs lost. Even the Democrat Party, because of the unions, was concerned about illegal immigration because of what it meant for jobs. What happened to that? Why all of a sudden do the unions no longer care about that? No, no, folks, gotta face these questions. There are answers to these questions. Why now does the number one support group of the Democrat Party support amnesty, support illegal immigration? Why are they not worried about a massive inflow of people across the border?

    Could it be that the unions have realized it’s not taking jobs. Could it be they’ve realized they’re not taking that many jobs. Could it be that Heather Mac Donald’s right, that the reason the Hispanic vote lines up with the Democrat vote is because they believe in the expansion of government and what government does, and they believe in raising taxes on the rich? See, where the Republicans are making their mistake here is they think that Hispanics, even legals, they think that the Hispanic vote supports the Democrats because of immigration policy, and that’s not it. Why does the Democrat Party get votes from anybody? From academia and Hollywood ’cause it’s cool and hip, everybody else it’s Santa Claus. What does inclusive mean? Republicans aren’t inclusive.

    Santa Claus, folks. What does inclusive mean? When it is said that the Republican Party is exclusive, what does it mean? Well, I’m giving you the answer. Inclusive means you are willing to give stuff to voting blocs based on gender, skin color, or ethnicity. If you are exclusive, it means that you aren’t. Nikki Haley, the governor of South Carolina, who was fabulous. Mia Love, she lost, unfortunately. Mia Love, great African-American woman in Utah. I mean, the Republican convention was filled with highly accomplished, highly achieved minorities.

    I know the Republicans are pulling their hair out, “Why didn’t it work? Why didn’t it work?” ‘Cause you’re misunderstanding what the Democrat terminology is. You’re missing the boat if you think that the Democrats are talking about hard work to anybody. Does really anybody associate the Democrat Party with hard work? When you think of the Democrat Party, what do you think is the attraction people have for it? Their compassion. What does that mean? Giving stuff away. We’ve got more people unemployed in this country than we had in a long time. They’re all eating. They’ve all got phones, they got televisions, they’ve got food stamps, and some of them have cars.

    Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana. I mean, we got ’em everywhere, we got great Americans. John McCain did more for amnesty than any Republican ever has. Did it help him? Did he win the election in 2008? Did John McCain get the Hispanic vote?

    • So what says:

      Poor alfie, he is so bereft of intelligence and wallowing in his grief all he can do is quote his gods scripture to console himself.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        A 73 year old employee recounted how FDR was elected promising groceries and a job at WPA in Ohio, and how Republicans switched parties and voted for him…”what else were they supposed to do, they were hungry.”

        So history confirms Rush is right, no one votes for Democrats saying “their policies are good for the country,” everyone votes their special interest, for their freebies.

        Democrats have no problem robbing the nation’s children, to lavish upon themselves freebies today…

        Willingly giving up their freedom from Government, for stuff.

        It was predicted Democracy would end once the people realized they could do this. Time will tell if this is the end.

        When the bubble bursts, the economy crashes…all freebies will stop…historically Tyrannical Government then takes over, to stop the rioting.

        • So what says:

          Did you think that one up yourself? Didn’t think so. Quoting Rush is no way to go through life alfie. It just makes you look mor foolish than you already are. Learn to think for your self.

          You know you voted for Obama. If Mitt had won you wouldn’t know what to do with your self.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          The elegant (simple) reason explaining why people vote for Democrats, is they are wanting something.

          Tort Lawyers are one of biggest supporters of Democrats, because they skew law in their favor…walking Vagina’s like Fluke want free contraception and abortion…unmarried women see Uncle Sap as their stand in husband paying the rent etc….regardless the special interest group….they all vote Democrat looking to gain something.

          They will sell the country out for their freebies, that is proved by their willingness to bankrupt their children, for freebies now.

          • So what says:

            Yes alfie it is simple.

            What did you “want” from the GOP, lower taxes, fewer regulations, smaller government, a moral code that you define.

            So simple even a republican could do it.

            Fortunately the rest of the country doesn’t agree with you. I know that makes us wrong. But if being you is “right” I can live with being wrong.

            Alfie=continued stupidity.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Its quite possible America as she was founded, has been done in by the selfish…

            Those who desire freebies above all.

            Just before the collapse of any empire, the selfish generation rises….who become enslaved with their own lusts and greed…and refuse to sacrifice for the good of the country.

            We are at the beginning of that road into collapse…it remains to be seen if our modern society, where everything happens at a quick pace, will apply to our demise as an empire.

            If pax Americana is truly at an end in a few years or will linger for a time.

            But it is ending without doubt.

            Its possible the coming collapse will reawaken the American principles of hard work and self responsibility that made this country great…we certain retain the raw materials of a great power…oil and gas in abundance, as well as other minerals….

            But its just a possible a Tyrant rise, impose marxism because that is really what Democrats want…and we progressively sink into poverty just like Russia, China, Cuba, and all the other countries did, when they tried to make marxism work.

            No one can, because it goes against human nature to work for free.

          • So what says:

            Alfie you continue to live on bullshit mountain hoping for the GOP to fix your life. The rest of us will do the work that you are to lazy to do.


    • shooff says:

      All this bitching from someone who can sit at computer and bitch all day.

      Talk about selfish. Go away. You are either stealing from your Marixist boss by bitching on company time or your on the dole.

      Go work or volunteer. Quit whining and earn some money so the USA can get 28% capital gain on it.

      You and and your sessionist friends are ruining the USA. Get to work or hire an employee or two.

      Shut off your selfish broadband ISP connection and go bully some women walking into abortion clinics with those old white haired bullies.

      Is that loser Beck in the Basement yet?

      Republicans want government to “be our lives”, not out of our lives. Telling us what to do, who to marry, which church is a cult this week (Scientologist and LDS beware).

      Liberals and young people are not telling Men to marry men or women to marry one another…..they are just saying “who cares.” Gay is not a fad or trend but as old as time (especially the creationist time).

      Government out of our lives: Not closing bars on election day. Not telling us what drugs to use. Not telling us what day to vote. Not telling us we need to save the Jews cause our historically fictional Bible says so.

    • Gildesleeve says:

      I wonder – will anybody bother to read all that?

      • shooff says:

        Taxed enough feels compelled to “read” to us from all his rags. Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity.

        This is what you do when you are on disability SSI, listen to those losers. They only have one agenda, lower taxes for themselves.

        I’d respect any one of these dudes that was just honest about it and said “I’m in it for me to get rich off you and your political naivete.”

        Romney came closest to it. You know, “…I’m unemployed with two Cadillac’s.” and 6 houses. Regular joe….just like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

        Looking out for Taxed Enough.

  3. Captain Obvious says:

    Women were 53% of the voters and broke to Obama by 11%. Obama had a 3 point win overall. Do the math.

  4. CPBrown says:

    Yep, there were plenty of angry white women to compensate for Obama.

  5. sargasso_c says:

    Bad times flush the chumps. In a depression people turn to God for answers. As the economy improves, people ask different questions.

  6. deowll says:

    Yep the anti-theists and the socialists won this time and they are going to get exactly what the got last time. Stagflation, combined with negative job growth, a lot more people working part time jobs, falling average income, falling tax revenues, and a wildly expanding national debt that should cause the collapse of the dollar by the end of Comrade Obama’s current term.

    Oh yeah, unless the medical profession is full of liars medical care is going to become much more difficult to obtain for most of the population. There’s going to be some sort of effort at national gun confiscation, etc.

    Other than a bunch of crap like that things should be fine.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      I agree, but the question “then what” needs investigation.

      Historically, when freebies end tyranny begins, to quell the riots. Socialism always results in poverty, and at first that begets riots….till someone stomps them down.

      But that is in countries where a majority of the people are addicted to freebies….

      At present, there are still 47% of the voting public…that are independent freedom loving people.

      So what happens when Obama crashes the economy…the freebies end and the riots begin….can a Dictator rise up and remain….when so many in the country will fight…unlike in Europe, and South America….

      Hundreds of companies have already announced layoffs because of Obama care, more will when Obama drives us over the fiscal cliff…is this the start of the Greatest Depression and Tyranny…

      or will enough people rise up against it, to stop it.

      Time will tell.

      • Gwad his own self says:

        You’re just making stuff up.

        Please give some examples of these doom and gloom scenarios. Real examples, not made up examples of “would have should have”. Like location and time that anybody can look up and confirm.

        My prediction: no response from you.

    • ECA says:

      So, you think the Gov, makes jobs??
      they CAN if you wish to work for the gov.
      I suggest you figure out HOW jobs went away..NOT WHERE, or WHY..HOW they got over there.

      Thionk of a corp, wanting to make more money..HOW can you do it..
      SEND someone to another country.. have to Gather a few people and MKAE another CORP..(its still NOT on the books, as the same corp, but the money still gets back to the First corp)..
      You need a product made, so you send money over seas…(write off) but you send 2x as much..1/2 is the pay to the company, the other 1/2 ends up in a Private bank..
      You then SHOW your COST, as being HIGH as you PAID out 200%(2x)..and then add more profit from YOU AND ME..
      This is the Lite version..Think about a product that costs, $1000 in the USA and in Taiwan, is about $150-200 WITH PROFIT..
      The Gov. needs to protect the Public from the corps, but HOW can we prove they are doing it..

  7. noname says:

    This election demonstrated, Republicanism is a CULT.

    1.) A Republican must believe more than reason!
    2.) A Republican must follow and not question their leader!
    3.) A Republican must not be deswayed or dismayed by outside facts or truths!
    4.) A Republican must not have their own convictions like RON PAUL!
    5.) A Republican is never wrong, it’s just missed messaging!
    6.) A Republican needs much more money than $330 million++++ to spread their gospel and win!!!!
    7.) A Republican thinks those “Americans” who don’t agree are evil and not an “American”. Those “non-American” votes must be suppressed and self-deport!!!
    8.) A Republican doesn’t believe in object Truth, but; believe only in what people voted for after crafting with MONEY, MESSAGE and MESSENGER!!!
    9.) A Republican is never wrong and never needs to compromise!!

    • What? says:

      Okay, for the win.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      And #4 contradicts your conclusion Republicanism is a cult or that they don’t have convictions, reason or questions….

      Ron Paul is a Republican, has been over 40 years.

      Rather your post is consistent with the “freebie” mentality of Democrats…any threat to a freebie results in irrational knee jerk response analogous to Pavlov’s dog salivating, or in your case, foaming at the mouth.

      Wide Red eyes bulging, foaming at the mouth, showering all nearby with spittle as you rant and rave like a lunatic under a full moon.

      In the dark, with odd headdress, as you limp wristed gesture oddly out of sync with your babbling….

      • noname says:

        Your reasoning or lack thereof shows you’re drinking too much Republican Kool-Aid.

        “And #4 contradicts your conclusion Republicanism is a cult or that they don’t have convictions, reason or questions….”

        #4 is an example not an exception!

        The GOP’s snubbing of conservative-libertarian Ron Paul and his supporters may have cost Republican candidate Mitt Romney the presidential race, a new analysis shows

        Not that I agree with Ron Paul. I like most American’s think he is Ron Paul is a doddering old man of older broken ideas!

        But the fact is, CULTs are known for their Attacks on Dissenters and Republicans are the prime example, over and over!!!!

        Recently Boehner orders House G.O.P. to Fall Lockstep in line!.

        Another example how the G.O.P doesn’t allow for any decent from the CULT leader.

        That Makes the G.O.P a CULT, NO DECENT ALLOWED!

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          Your argument was self contradictory and response unreasoned.

          Republicans have principles, and nothing in their hierarchy is similar to a cult. Bonehead Boehner already has plenty of DISSENT to worry about.

          I had forgotten the disaffected Ron Paul supporters, certainly they are among the 3 + million Republicans who didn’t vote for Romney, possibly denying him the win in popular vote, if not the electoral college.

          So thanks for reminding of that, I’ll be sure to mention it to the Elite bastards in the party who dissed him…a great man, a true conservative….

          I would have considered it all joy to vote for him against Obama.

  8. Supreme Ultrahuman (I see the comment system is still designed for retards.) says:

    The sad fact is liberals are actually right on a lot of social issues, but social issues are completely trivial and irrelevant if the important stuff isn’t solved first.

    Cheap gas to power 4x4s, large houses, urban sprawl, private property and individual wealth are immeasurably more important than miniscule issues like gay rights, abortion and legal pot. Even health care shouldn’t be even mentioned until every single American has a big car and a big house kept at 72F year round.

    Dumbass Liberals and Dumbass Conservatives alike don’t know how to prioritize.

  9. Mextli says:

    Eideard did you ever hear of obsession?

  10. What? says:

    I read an interesting post by a guy struggling to climb back to the middle class. He didn’t blame anyone for his situation, and didn’t mention any partican views. He just talked about how he had lost his income, and was working to restore it, starting with $10/hr jobs.

    This guy is an example of an inspirational character to me.

    Unlike the whining child on here who likes to complain about how the liberals are destroying his life.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Interesting you cite a conservative as inspirational.

      He clearly isn’t Democrat because he’s not waiting like a helpless open mouthed bird for Mother, while blogging in her a basement tirades against Republicans.

    • Gwad his own self says:

      His mother’s basement? You’re a buffoon.

      This noble patriot proud of his $10/hr job will be living in his mother’s basement because that would be all he could afford.

      How about if he could only earn $8 an hour? Would he still be proud to be working?

      $4 hour?

      $2 hour?

      At some point even the stupidest person realizes that he’s being taken advantage of.

      I’m guessing you make a lot more than $10/hour, if you work that is. Tell us about the lifestyle you propose making minimum wage (that you suggest should be sufficient for all the little people of the world.)

      Again, I’m guessing NO RESPONSE.

      • So what says:

        Gwad said “At some point even the stupidest person realizes that he’s being taken advantage of.”

        Dude have you been reading alfies posts? He is the one percent who fail your test.

  11. humanist says:

    I can’t help but laugh at some of these comments, and crying because they can no longer have the biblical principle of slavery, as the education levels increase the theist dictatorships will meet their maker (who doesn’t exist) maybe the GOP will realize this but I do expect it to last another election cycle.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Humanist philosophy is essentially the fallacy of circular reasoning and self contradiction. Its circular as humanists rely upon their own criteria to define God out of existence; A self contradiction because only God can rule out God’s existence with certainty, as it requires omniscience only God has.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (Col 1:17 KJV)

      M (=Majesty) Theory, the eleventh dimension is the region in every point of space where God’s Thought becomes our Matrix.

      One day physicists will acknowledge what their theory implies….God is the infinite String….

      The only parallel universe is the TELIOS (that which is complete), having the full revelation of God it is infinitely more substantial. Gravity is as Newton said, from God.

      • Gwad his own self says:

        You’ve progressed from teabonics to pure gibberish.


  12. tcc3 says:

    Wow, I’m sure glad TeaDud agreed not to comment any more (as much)…

  13. DUde says:

    In other news, angry white DU commenters reveal themselves to be the minority.

  14. Murray Rothbard says:

    What happened is that most Ron Paul supporters decided to stay home. No sense in giving any legitimacy to a sham election whose outcome was determined months (or years) in advance. There was no material difference between the two candidates so voting for either was pointless.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Pissed off Ron Paul supporters certainly is a factor in Romney’s loss…dissing him at the convention certainly a mistake…he should have had a platform to speak…and been promised a cabinet level post in his area of choice…Sec Treasury to deal with the Fed etc.

      But I think we fool ourselves if we don’t acknowledge some Republicans voted for Obama…they want stuff too.

      That explains the uptick in Democrat party affiliation evident in the polls.

  15. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    They are reeling not only from the loss of the presidency, but from what many of them see as a rejection of their agenda. They lost fights against same-sex marriage in all four states where it was on the ballot, and saw anti-abortion-rights Senate candidates defeated and two states vote to legalize marijuana for recreational use.

    Absolutely necessary to your conclusion is the premise elections were about issues…and not “stuff.”

    There is no unifying theory for Democrats, rather the party as successfully cobbled together various special interests to form a majority. The Walking Virgina faction wants free contraception, medical care for any consequent SDI, and abortion when an “oops” occurred. The usual suspects want entitlement checks. Crony capitalists and big Pharmaceuticals want Obama care, while unions in Government and education want the excessive pay and retirement befits Democrats lavish upon them. Tort extortionists love the way the law has been skewed to make their extortion possible. And the special interests go on…

    Any poll about abortion shows the minority believes in pro choice, and same sex marriage loses out also. This election wasn’t about issues, it was about stuff…and the Democrats got those voters to the polls.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Obama’s campaign illustrates the point…he didn’t run on ideas, he ran against “the party of no.”

      That requires Democrats be the party of “yes”…yes to entitlements, yes to free phones, yes to unemployment checks, yes yes yes ad infinitum, to free stuff.

      Obama never said his policies were good for America…they are only good for segments of the electorate…

      They will give them stuff, Republicans won’t.

      Politicians achieved this greed under Bush under whom the Government extortion racket grew 40% causing the recession via the weight of their regulations (which spawn lobbyists bearing gifts)…now the public wants a piece of the action…

      The are perfectly willing to bankrupt the country to get theirs, even saddling the nations children with oppressive debt…

      In a just world the entire government would have been shot in the public square when the collapse occurred….instead the greed spread like a cancer throughout society…so the majority now wants stuff. The country be dammed, let the rich pay…

    • Captain Obvious says:

      Wow, it’s hard to believe you guys lost.

      • So what says:

        Yeah, lost by such a small margin. Kinda makes you wonder how many times alfie voted.

  16. Uncle Patso says:


    I mean, I had heard that the Right was surprised and discombobulated by Obama’s re-election, but I didn’t realize the extent. They really thought _that_ strongly that Romney would win? Not only that, but they expected him to save them from the mean old Obama.

    Doesn’t this go against the Bible, both Old and New Testaments?

    * Psalm 146:3 Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men…

    * 1 Corinthians 2:5 so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom …

    And so forth.

  17. MikeN says:

    Evangelicals increased in both numbers and as a percentage of voters, as well as their share of the vote that they gave to the Republican. Lately Eideard has been putting up posts that say the opposite of reality.

    • noname says:

      If God wanted a Republican in the White House he would have given Republicans brains!

      Instead, Republicans are like Zombies, walking around looking to eat brains instead of developing one!

    • Captain Obvious says:

      Lately Eideard has been putting up posts that say the opposite of reality.

      You mean like Romney Ohio or something?

  18. t0llyb0ng says:

    Why did Romney lose?

    1.  Voters are growing more & more wary of high-level decision-making based on medieval belief systems.

    2.  Romney has too much money & is out of touch with the middle-class mind-set.

    3.  Teabaggery alienated the women’s vote.  Silly old men don’t need to be micromanaging birth control choices.

    4.  Repuglicans wanted to overturn Obamacare (which is a genuine turkey of a plan) but offered no alternatives.

  19. t0llyb0ng says:

    Oh, there was a #5:

    Romney was too waffley.

  20. Chucky Cheese says:

    Christian conservatives, for more than two decades a pivotal force in American politics, are grappling with Election Day results that repudiated their influence and suggested that the cultural tide — especially on gay issues — has shifted against them.

    Gee. You think?!

    A group of fools who only have a fairy tale to offer as any kind of evidence want to tell everyone else what’s right and wrong?! And then they want the masses to decide who should be put in control of their very lives? What’s wrong with THAT?!

    PLENTY is wrong with that if you ask me.

    Clearly, both political parties “believe” someone has to be made supreme leader in charge of EVERYTHING. So it should be no surprise when the masses occasionally choose something resembling a devil simply because they can SEE HIM!

    I’m not saying Obama is Satin or anything. But if there is a Satin then I’m sure Obama has at least met him.

    I still want to know what happened in that short time period when Obama went missing after he was elected the first time. Does anyone even remember that?!

    • Gildesleeve says:

      I believe Michelle has worn Satin a few times. I didn’t know you bothered to capitalize the names of fabrics, but what the hell (nyuk nyuk).

  21. Somebody says:

    Billy Graham! Hah! That was money well spent!

  22. Dallas says:

    Article is spot on.

    Is that cadaver on the right Billy Graham? If so, the question posed is Mormon back on the cult list with election paddling or did Willard file for an extension ?

  23. The Trojan Horse Technique has been used by the children of Satan, the Fake, “Jews,” to infiltrate the United States Government to bring it down to remove Jesus Christ and Christianity from the American Continent. Please join Forces with the Hebrew Israelite Nation as we expose the strategy of the enemy in this hour and launch a offensive operation against those whom Jesus/YeshaYah call, “The children of Satan.” John 8:44


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