Damn, who knew you needed a college degree to work at a titty bar?



  1. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    That is sad. I dropped out in the 10th, worked in the Merchant Marine for a decade and started my own business….no debt for my degree.

    My brother was a systems analyst till the dot com implosion, now he drives truck…ever since.

    • tj the former Catholic says:

      hmm…

      I too lost my software development job when the tech bubble burst. Executives I was working for kept saying that a deal was imminent for the company to be bought. Didn’t happen.

      I had two job offers with better pay within a week of the company closing its doors.

      I have 3 brothers. Two of which are college grads such as myself with good jobs in technical fields. My other brother went to college for two years then dropped out. He attempted to start his own business but couldn’t compete with the larger fish. He’s been working retail ever since and trying to keep his head above water.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        Its gotten harder to start any business, city, county, state and fed regulations make many businesses impossible to start…

        I recall the founder of Costco (or something like it) said he couldn’t start the same business today, because the regulations made it too hard.

        If the regulations I now comply with, existed when I started, it wouldn’t have happened.

        Crony capitalists love regulations, because competition won’t arise to challenge their dominance…so don’t let the many ceo’s who support Statistism fool you, they are following a prime directive, keep competition out.

        The best thing your brother can do, is to buy a small business that’s existed for a long time…so grandfathered in…it might be the only way left to open a business…that is likely to succeed.

        • tj the former Catholic says:

          That’s an interesting distortion of the realities my brother faced.

          Regulations weren’t the problem.

          • tj the former Catholic says:

            Oh, and neither were taxes. There are tax advantages available to those who run their own business.

            In fact we’ve tried to hire some of the contractors that work for us and often what it comes down to is that they don’t want to give up the tax benefits they have as an LLC.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            You cited competition—overhead affects one’s ability to compete and as regulations are a significant part of overhead, they played a role.

            New business has a harder go of it because older businesses are “grandfathered in” and don’t have the same expenses.

            That’s why crony capitalists support Obama, new business then can’t compete, onerous regulation don’t impact the older businesses, only those trying to start up now.

            I wasn’t trying to distort anything…That you claimed I did is interesting.

            And you ignored my question about your “former Catholic.”

            Many at Catholic Answers would ask if you ever Catholic.

            I’m not Catholic, and can cite chapter and verse why. I have reasons…

            Do you?

          • tj the former Catholic says:

            Assuming that the competition has to abide by the same regulations then it would factor into their overhead as well would it not?

            And as I said, regulations were not the issue for my brother.

            The “former Catholic” was a useful part of my name in a discussion from months ago but not really relevant to this one so I didn’t answer.

            But will answer it here to satisfy your curiosity. I don’t consider myself a Christian though I feel there’s a lot of value in Christ’s teachings. I don’t think he’s the son of God. In fact, I don’t believe in God, at least not in the all powerful being who lives in the sky sense.

            Of course I have reasons for not being a Catholic but since I believe the bible is basically a collection of interesting stories partially based on historical events and full of contradictions, I don’t really care which if any verses support my decision.

            And of course I also don’t care whether Catholic Answers would question whether I was ever really a Catholic or not.

            My formerly Catholic self would have argued that it’s not their place to decide who is Catholic and who isn’t anyway. They were created to refute what they saw as misleading and slanderous claims about Catholicism made by their fellow Christians, the Protestants.

            I will say that the stupid and sometimes violent infighting between various religious sects that profess to believe in the same God was a contributing factor for me in questioning whether that God really existed.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Perhaps I wasn’t clear, there are no NEW legal competitors because of regulation.

            Only companies that have been in business and they exist only in one of the cities I am in.

            Other cities have no one supplying legal cab service, because they require drivers invest relatively large sums of cash for the opportunity, before they are sure the want to invest…so they don’t.

            There are “bandit” cabs who don’t bother with regulations, insurance etc.

            That is the net effect of the cities passing regulation they thought would “protect the public.” They made legal cabbies to hard of a hill to climb.

            I pleaded with them to break up the payments in affordable installments…giving the driver a chance to see if likes driving cab and can make money at it. They refused.

            So they have no legal drivers. The sort of driver they thought regulation would prevent from driving, is likely driving in their city with complete freedom….because the cities are too broke to enforce their own regulations.

            They shot themselves in the foot.

            But like most here, they never tried living under the regulations they create…if they did, as George McGovern found out, they wouldn’t have made them.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Its misleading you claim to be a “former Catholic” because Catholicism rests upon a firm believe in the Father as God and that Jesus is God the Son, and the Holy Spirit the Third Person of the One God in Holy Trinity.

            Denying that core belief means you weren’t Catholic.

            Or Christian in any real sense.

            I don’t say this to insult you, only to point out your objection to Catholicism isn’t from someone who once truly believed, and now fell away.

            You always disbelieved, evidently.

            Citing sectarian disputes as a reason to doubt God is, logically speaking, non sequitur. They wouldn’t argue unless they truly believed in God. So your deducing from a dispute, whether God exists. The “middle term” is undistributed, the premise irrelevant to the conclusion.

            God obviously exists, because we do and we know from Betrand Russell’s famous “regression” argument (which is invalid), you cannot regress from infinite creation, to a finite Creator. So there can be only One Infinite God who created all things. While one might argue (as Russell did) in finite God’s creating what is below them, there can be only One Infinite God above all, because there can never be an infinity that is greater than infinity.

          • tj the former Catholic says:

            For some reason it seems to be important to you to think that I wasn’t ever a true believer, but I was into early adulthood. I believed in the trinity.

            For many years I tried to reconcile Catholic and biblical teachings with evidence to the contrary. Finally, I just decided it made little sense. I didn’t have a problem with the concept of trinity so much. It was other things.

            The disputes among different factions of the followers of God go well beyond just sectarian, though I would agree that God is often invoked in support of what is at heart one none religious issue over another.

            It would seem to me however, that those members of the various God believing sects (Jews, Christians, Muslims) who claim to have or have had divine insight should agree on whether or not Christ himself is divine. Yet they don’t agree. Somebody is wrong.

            Does this PROVE that God doesn’t exist? No. But that along with a number of contradictions is enough for me to decide that he probably doesn’t. At least not in the way I was taught. These generations of religious leaders aren’t what they claimed to be. A clear thinker therefore has to view their teachings with deep suspicion.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        If your brother is willing to relocate, there are States what welcome small business.

        http://smallbusiness.foxbusiness.com/entrepreneurs/2012/08/10/5-friendliest-states-to-small-business/

  2. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    I copied that to a dvd for my employees, some of whom were thinking of college given Obama’s high praise/prediction its the way to prosperity.

    • tj the former Catholic says:

      Is working for you a pathway to prosperity for them?

      If it is, great. If not then you shouldn’t stand in the way of them trying to better themselves. Or would you rather they just be “takers” when they get old and have no retirement savings of their own?

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        No, its a dead end job. It was never meant to be permanent…but permanent people is what I got because there are no options for them.

        I don’t stand in the way for anyone to better themselves, I help if I can.

        Regulations have closed the door to many. If Steve Jobs tried to start up today, Obama and his ilk would seek to take away his garage, and distribute the proceeds to crack heads in the park.

        That’s fundamentally change he believes in.

        I hope “former Catholic” doesn’t mean “former Christian,” lots of Christians out there who aren’t Catholic.

        • ReadyKilowatt says:

          Actually, if past history is any indicator, that business startup in the garage would get all free marketing from the White House and millions of deficit dollars that the investment community (wisely) wouldn’t have provided.

          Because of that, the pressure to overspend would be unavoidable and would have surly led to failure of said startup (and we’d all be using SOL computers today).

        • tj the former Catholic says:

          Just a question for you to think about, not one I expect you to answer here.

          If your business tax and regulatory burden were significantly lower, what would that mean for your employees? Would that mean their dead end jobs would be turned into well paying ones or would you just be able to provide another dead end job or two?

          Keep in mind that any competition you have would have the same lower taxes and regulatory burden.

          For me a high quality of life includes those items that taxes and regulations provide, – like access to clean water, air, and an abundance of green space. I’d also like some assurance that the products I buy won’t kill or sicken me.

          Having said that I’m sure that there are regulations that provide little or no value to the public and just get in the way.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Employees would make more as I could afford more, but answering phones remains a dead end job regardless the pay.

            As for Regulations, easing them would improve the life of my employees as expansion would be easier.

            The regulatory burden affects taxi drivers, they are required to pay hundreds for the license to drive.

            Folks willing to drive a cab usually don’t have hundreds of dollars to pay for a job.

            I tried lending money to new recruits, but that fails as a large percentage of them quit after a few days, having learned taxi driving isn’t their preferred job.

            Hence many areas where I might have cab service, cannot be serviced. Regulations prevent it.

            When I first opened up, there were no regulations at all beyond a business license. And even though I had the equivalent of 300,000 to fund it…I almost didn’t succeed, it took a long time to build a clientele.

            Today I wouldn’t try. Only bandits compete against me now…they can’t afford the insurance etc…so don’t try…but being illegal, they can never rise to a level where they become a real competitor.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            A clarification, few taxi drivers in the USA today are employees. Rather, they rent the cab and use it in their own taxi business as independent contractors.

            I used the word “job” in lieu of “self employment.”

            Cabbie is not a high end job, it doesn’t attract those wanting three figures…folks usually stumble onto to it, after exhausting everything else…

            Most having cash don’t consider the return worth their investment of money and time…although some do and I have some of those renting my cabs for over 10 years. I provide the equipment, they rent it and provide the service, for a healthy profit.

            But not three figures.

          • Gwad his own self says:

            JFC in a shopping cart.

            TEAD is Louie De Palma!!!!!

          • tj the former Catholic says:

            Well, there are two sides to the argument. My city (a very democratic leaning one) a few years ago lifted the limits on the number of cabs given permits to operate.

            Now it is very easy and relatively inexpensive to become a cabbie in the city but very hard to make money at it since there are lots of cabbies and only so many fares.

          • tj the former Catholic says:

            If it wasn’t obvious from the above, the very real downside of less regulation for our local cabbies was that it used to be a profession you could make an OK living at.

            A cabbie permit used to be transferrable and was coveted. Now it isn’t. So while the barrier to entry is lower, the benefits of getting in have also plummeted.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Yes, less capable cabbies fail, but the public wins from more service. If the goal of government is equalization of wealth than doing it via regulation of business is inefficient misdirection.

            The free market brings the greatest benefit to the most people and tends to weed out the less efficient cabbie..

            Or cab company.

            There are other jobs they can do.

            Even Louie found another job.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            For me a high quality of life includes those items that taxes and regulations provide, – like access to clean water, air, and an abundance of green space. I’d also like some assurance that the products I buy won’t kill or sicken me.

            Having said that I’m sure that there are regulations that provide little or no value to the public and just get in the way.

            Clean water, air etc were achieved in the 70’s, then the EPA should have been shuttered having done its job.

            But instead it grew till now we are in a permanent recession or low growth.

            Some regulation is needed, but much of it is a ploy to extract money from those regulated.

            Obamacare illustrates this principle. The 30 million uninsured could have been insured with a few billion dollars…without Obama care.

            Obama care extended Government regulation over 1/6th of the economy….and may yet leave many of those 30 million uninsured.

            So why Obamacare? K Street lobbyists will increase in number, about 1/6th.

            All will bear gifts…

            Cap & Trade another scheme that will make those in government multi millionaires…

            Its good to be in government in these lawless times…

            Regulation that is not part of the “protection racket” Congress runs….should be scrapped…so we can have a RESET….and learn how much regulation is really necessary, and then legislate that much…only.

          • tj the former Catholic says:

            Water was clean by the 70’s ? Then why the current restrictions on eating fish taken from the lakes where I live? And what do you suppose would happen to those lakes if the agencies charged with protecting them were shuttered? The free market would clean them up?

            And yes you’re are right, the less efficient cabbies will be driven from the market. Only the ones like the immigrant father a few doors down will be left. I see his wife and kids all the time but never him. He works insane hours to cover his cab rental, fuel costs, and hopefully making enough more to provide for his family. Sort of like the modern version of share cropping.

            I’m sure the larger number of cabbies is great for the places that rent out the cabs to the cabbies. Too bad they apparently don’t pay their employees much either. Not sure that’s the type of job growth this country really needs.

  3. Nate says:

    A college degree doesn’t guarantee anything, even that a half-way decent commenting system is used on this site.

    • ± says:

      You are so right about the commenting system.

      The best system, a hierarchal threading system with subject, author and date shown only, and indented according to subject and response, allows people to at a glance, assess a thread; with the most important feature of who is responding to whom being perfectly obvious. Then click on the subject line to expose the author’s content.

      The current system forces you to waste time scrolling down thru the usual suspects posts and you can’t easily identify who they are responding to anyway forcing time to be wasted.

    • Admfubar says:

      oh a college degree does guarantee the debt of an education, but not way to get out of that debt

  4. McCullough says:

    I went to college, but I couldn’t find a parking space so I went home.

    But seriously folks, one of my best friends has been a bartender most of his life and makes about 20K more a year than I do. Most of it in tips, which of course is not (easily) taxable.

    • mharry860 says:

      McCullough , Spokane Community Colleges gives students a bumper sticker that says “If you see my Professor, tell them I’m looking for a parking spot.”

    • Gwad his own self says:

      Apropos of nothing, I was late for class one day. As at most colleges, parking spaces were coded by color. Students were supposed to park in areas with white curbs only. (green for staff, red for faculty, and so on.) I drove around for 10 minutes looks for a white space with no luck… then I spotted a blue space. I had never noticed a blue space before, had never seen them mentioned or posted on any of the signs that explained the code.

      So I parked there.

      I learned that day what a blue space was: reserved for the college president. I got a $200.00 ticket, which I refused to pay.

      Until I graduated.

      Then it turned out that they hadn’t forgotten about that ticket after all, and that I owed for that ticket and a couple of library fines before they would grant my degree. Thank you, sir! Next???

  5. shooff says:

    Peter should walk through goldman saks or apple, Microsoft, Congress, Exxon HQ or Walmart corporate offices and ask the same question.

    Just because these kids choose the Bourbon Street lifestyle does not mean jobs in their field of study are not available.

    Remember Pete was a proponent of hyper-inflation in 2005…..CNBC dumped him as an analyst because he was often wrong but always interesting. Fox should take note, wrong = fired at NBC.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Who was wrong at FOX?

      Curious to see what you think is true, or isn’t.

      • shooff says:

        All those high school dropouts like O’Reilly, Rove and Hannity who indicated Romney would win.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          O’Reilly made a point of not predicting the race…on many shows, proving you never watch him.

          Rove did but doesn’t work at fox, he’s a paid contributor…as Fox has many liberals as paid contributors—being right cannot be a requirement.

          Hannity didn’t predict, he hoped Romney would win.

          So your SMEAR failed.

          But when NBC, which seems to make a habit of doctoring tapes to skew the news towards its liberal bias (cf Zimmerman), doctored Romney’s tape to make him appear stupid, no one was fired:
          http://rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/06/19/nbc_busted_for_doctoring_romney_tape

          So your claim and brief for it, were wrong.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Correction, Hannity eventually did grudgingly predict Romney would win, but kept warning it would be very close implying he might lose.

  6. JS says:

    OMG!!! A person walking down the street asks other people and gets anecdotal evidence that some who got a college degree are not using them!!!! Stop the presses!

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      Satire fail, you ignored why there are so many college educated working on Bourbon street, according to the last respondent…”every bartender.”

    • So what says:

      JS you have to excuse alfie with his admitted lack of education, he didn’t know what anecdotal meant.

      He also believes everything he sees, reads, and hears on the internet is true as long as it agrees with his view of the world.

      • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

        “Stop the presses” made his comment satire…but you are satire challenged…

        And your smears additional evidence size does matter when it comes to brains…

        • So what says:

          That leaves you with an insurmountable disadvantage.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            It takes all kinds of people to make up the world, too bad you’re not one of them.

      • Gwad his own self says:

        You don’t learn “anecdotal” until the 11th grade.

        • So what says:

          Gwad you beat me to it earlier. Alfie owns/runs a cab company. It’s really interesting when you do a google search knowing his back story. I find the name that he chose for the company unsurprising and unoriginal. I do find it intriguing that he chose where he did to base it given his enormous hated of regulations.

          The icing on the cake, the cherry on the sundae, the pinnacle of the mountain of bullshit that alfie lives on, is, it was hard enough to take him seriously. Now when every I see one of his posts all I will be able to picture is:

          http://tinyurl.com/buayrb3

          Now I can never take anything he says seriously.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          Look at yourself, Googling who I am, reading my every post…hanging onto my every word.

          Its sad…until we recall you were different from the other kids in kindergarten…..

          You were twelve.

          • So what says:

            Nah, just a good memory, one of the benefits of a good education. Christian Cab Inc.and Cab Christian Inc. really? California even. LOL you stand supreme in your hypocrisy.

            I can never watch TAXI again .

          • McCullough says:

            I think you have a stalker.

          • So what says:

            Nope, I just dislike hypocrites.

          • So what says:

            I didn’t Google you, there was no need. You posted the information yourself. At the time I found it hard to believe that one would be that big an imbecile as to post that much personal information. As time and you have shown, I was wrong.

  7. LOLing @ you says:

    Riiiiiiiight.

    Those not bullshitting either got useless degrees or their GPAs were for crap. If you have a degree in math, science or anything useful and your GPA reflected you as a good fit then you are working right now. (For the most part, I realize there are exceptions, however few). And since WHEN did working in a strip club become abad thing?

    • Gwad his own self says:

      The hours suck and you’re not allowed to date the women, or even socialize with them. That goes for every male employee except the boss.

      “GENTLEMEN for your pleasure, featuring on our west stage, LEXUS! LEXUS!!! gentlemen, let’s give her a hand!!! “

      • Sadkins76 says:

        I dont know what clubs youve worked at… But all the ones I worked at in my 10 years as a DJ, there were very few rules like that in place. AND, the ones that HAD those rules werent enforcing them. I got to date and socialize quite a few in my time…

  8. tj the former Catholic says:

    Interesting video.

    It’s not clear how many actually graduated. Some were recent grads who will likely get a job in related fields within a year or two. Many had degrees that are a dime a dozen (business degrees) or tough to find jobs for (undergraduate psych degrees).

    We had a guy who interned here last summer while an undergrad in mechanical engineering. He was also working at a restaurant. He went on to graduate school at MIT. Trust me. He will get a job.

    Would have been more interesting if he had asked some of the tourists who obviously had some cash whether they had a college degree or not.

    Of course, rather than relying on anecdotal information, we could look at actual statistics which clearly show that on average college grads do better.

    However, that doesn’t change the fact that college tuition has spiraled out of control and it’s ridiculous the amount of debt our young people are taking on before they even get started.

    We could make college and technical education free like many European countries do but that’s far too “socialist” a concept. That’s too bad because our young people will need to be able to compete in a global workforce.

    • What? The moth is always drawn to the flame? says:

      WTF

      • What? The moth is always drawn to the flame? says:

        I meant FTW.

        The trouble with life is that you don’t know what you don’t know.

        A University degree helps you see what you don’t see or understand.

        I find it interesting that Taxed thinks he understands things, that he obviously doesn’t, and claims everyone else is ignorant.

        There is nothing wrong with a 10th grade education, as long as your learning doesn’t stop there. Convincing yourself that you are right does not constitute learning, but rather the opposite.

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          An ignorant smear: I would NEVER say “everyone else is ignorant” because that universal positive is impossible, obviously wrong.

          I’d like to hear your opinion on other matters, but isn’t there enough ignorance in the world already?

          Notice the premise, although universal…it applied to all of you, not just a part….its sound because you are one among many who post here.

    • getintouch says:

      so true, the cost of college is obscene and is, in my opinion, some kind of scam. That being said, the statistics do indicate that college educated people do get a higher wage than those without, depending on the degree. Also, note that numerous employers are looking for college grads from foreign countries so they can pay them dimes on the dollar so that bartending, etc. may indeed be a better paying job than an actual knowledge job. In the area I work, patent research, it has become a business run by small foreign/foreign-run companies that pay EE’s (the most desired of the professions in IP research…) around 25K a year, what a crock! Those same credentials will get you 60K+ in the govt., and back before this flood of low paid H1B’s, the average salary for this kind of demanding work was 80K and up, easily. Now, a car mechanic, plumber, electrician, pipefitter, etc. makes much more than a college grad….

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      We could make college and technical education free like many European countries do but that’s far too “socialist” a concept.

      You mean well, but statist solutions aren’t efficient.

      Before the minimum wage, companies hired future full pay employees, to train them…as needed.

      Business that finds employees hard to find, eventually do install their own trainee programs.

      It works better than what you have in Europe…until Government makes the whole proposition unprofitable.

      • deowll says:

        Got to agree. It looks like virtually all the socialist/green EU is heading into the meat grinder or no where near any sort of economic recovery. Some do seem to have improved to the point of stagnating. The Brits are chopping what they actually offer by way of medical care and doing some deregulation for example. Malaria is making a come back in Greece which isn’t good.

        A few countries may have avoided the debt trap but it is hard to soar with the eagles with failure all around you and of course you idiot bankers may have loaned lots of money to people who aren’t going to pay them back because they can’t.

        • tj the former Catholic says:

          Look at the countries with highest standards of living and compare the costs of higher education there vs. here.

          Definite correlation.

          Oh and in case you didn’t realize it, the US does not have the highest standard of living in the world like many of us seem to believe. We’re lucky to crack the top 10.

  9. Mayor Bloomburger says:

    Anybody can go to college and decide to work in bars and strip clubs the rest of their lives …. yeah, they’re called “lowlifes”. Not news.

    • tj the former Catholic says:

      I think for many people that age even a menial job in a party atmosphere like Bourbon Street can seem more attractive than spending all day in an office. However, I’m sure it gets old fast.

      • deowll says:

        Okay, young people like to party. The party crowd rarely actually gets a degree and a lot of those people had degrees. They had invested a huge amount of time and effort in getting a degree and now they had a job that didn’t require the degree and a huge debt load they can’t reasonably be expected to pay back. I also doubt that peddling a rickshaw or waving a sign pays more than minimum wage. Some of them may have been working for tips.

  10. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Damn, who knew you needed a college degree to work at a titty bar? /// Well clearly the first interviewee showed the requirement was to have titties?

    tj said it all above at 5:51pm. Anecdotal/Man on the Street will demonstrate any position one wants. But other than Alfie, I assume we all know that.

    It has never been “the purpose” of college to get you a job. Rather, it is to EDUCATE you. Different ways to phrase that, different emphasis here and there. Some degrees naturally point you to a certain activity but just as easily also provide one with a base to do many different things.

    The highest paid job I ever did was the result of a qualifying background and work history and then a most interesting 4 hour interview/test with an industrial psychologist. Imagine that the employer did not trust the college degree and resume?

    Hmmmmm….. come to think of it, I was also tested pretty much like that to get into the military.

    From each person interviewed, it actually would be interesting to find out a bit more? WHY did you go to college, what did you want out of it. How you doin’? What would you rather be doing and so forth.

    There are a million stories in the city.

  11. jbenson2 says:

    And the prospects for new collect graduates looks even worse for the next few years.

  12. Roasted Eagle says:

    For those of you who didn’t go to college there are really only two kinds of under graduate degrees: Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science. There are also 2-year degrees called Associate degrees too. But after you earn a bachelor degree you might be able to go on to graduate school and earn a masters degree or even a doctorate (not necessarily in medicine). But it’s still either in arts or science – period!

    So when I watched that video all I could think of was how many IDIOT arts majors there were. I think I counted like TWO actual science majors who said they had degrees. Ya, right! But where did they get their degree? Jack’s College of Jerk Offs?

    Everyone else was an arts major where even a few said they graduated from some impressive schools too. But they’re still IDIOTS! (FYI: Business, Education, Journalism and even Law, just to name a few, are still ARTS majors.)

    BTW, this was also embedded in the video and very worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIcfMMVcYZg

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Socratically: Roasted, what do you think the purpose of a college education is?

      Pedantically: Roasted, you can choose college for various specific work preparation or you can choose college for self betterment more in preparation for whatever comes next.

      bobboinheat: Hey Foisted: only idiots go to college to prepare themselves for “work.” That is a slave’s mentality. Educate yourself and be FREEEEEEEEE! But then as an obvious bizmaj—how would you know?

      The Buddhist: Ha, ha. Yes===what is the purpose of college? Can it be only one thing? How about life?

      Silly Hoomans.

      • deowll says:

        Watch the video. A subsidized College education is a method for the Colleges to make more money off the public, hire more admin types, and provide more perks to the admin people leaving the students with a bleep load of debt and all to often a degree that nobody cares about.

        People are smart, if the Government wants to give away money they will find a way to scam the system and give you nothing for it.

  13. william bond says:

    bar keeps with mba just think 80 k and no worrys and i canday

  14. deadheadsteve says:

    yeah you gotta decide if you are going to school just to learn something for the fun of it or learn a professional that can earn you some money after graduation. I went back to school for network/system administration because I know that computer professional jobs are going to be in demand just like plumbers. Think about it, doesn’t matter if you are a ditch digger or a Doctor of Physics…….EVERYONE needs a plumber at some point in their life. Computers (big and small) are starting to outnumber toilets in the household and just like plumbing issues almost everyone has called for a tech at some point in their life. If you can manage it I recommend going back to school for a second or even third degree in a high demand field like IT or medical. Good luck!

    • deowll says:

      I thought that was a safe career choice and maybe parts of it still are but Apple often leads the trends and the trend is sealed systems. Something breaks under warrentee and they replace the system. If it isn’t under warrentee you replace the system. With closed systems you don’t need much of a repairman and could end up easily outsourcing it.

      Nearly every program my school used before I retired was in the cloud and they all could have been. They handled backups. We could have paid somebody like Google to keep copies of all the school email. Our web sites would have been much better if we hadn’t done our own. The way I see it in ten years a school system and maybe a lot of businesses aren’t going to need much of IT department.

  15. Grandpa says:

    We would have jobs in this country if we all weren’t so stupid.

  16. Pedro says:

    Interesting but meaningless. I have doubts you would fine many people without a college degree making over 500k a year…

    • Peppeddu says:

      All the US billionaires I know of, are all ungraduated.

      • tj the former Catholic says:

        You need to look for facts instead of just believing what is fed to you.

        The Forbes 400 is a list of the 400 wealthiest people in the states.

        Out of 400 only 27 have a high school education or less. 36 are college dropouts.

        The rest have college degrees and 161 went on to grad school.

        Steve Jobs was a college dropout but if you read his biography you’ll discover that he learned things a Reed College that helped make the Macintosh a success. He education may have influenced the very type that you see displayed on this page.

        • tj the former Catholic says:

          I wish you could edit your replies on these boards. I hate looking at all my typos and not being able to do anything about them.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            It is a contraction Tech Guru Dovork’s uses blog software in the 21st century that is less capable than Vbulletin’s Threaded Display ala 1999.

          • Bob73 says:

            You need to watch what you type and make corrections on the fly. Just don’t click on the “submit comment” button until you are satisfied with what you have written. Simple really.

  17. Hyph3n says:

    Judging by this video, going to college will get you a job. Just not in your chosen field.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      That was elegant, Okham’s Razor compliant. Given just those facts, you are right on.

  18. greyangel says:

    A college degree only gives you a wider variety of choices for what you are going to do. It does not dictate those choices. My Brother in law chooses to be a bum for the most part. I choose to keep a steady job in the tech industry. Education doesn’t guarantee success, drive does.
    ——————————
    There’s a million ways to go – You know that there are. You know that there are.
    Cat Stevens (musician turned terrorist/freedom fighter)

    • deowll says:

      My friend’s granddaughter got a psychic degree and got a job working for the state: human services. Her bum of husband wouldn’t work. She had health issues and got sick of him and finally kicked him out. He immediately got a job back he had quite for about 20K a month picked up a new girl friend, picked up a new job with her father for about 10K a month and moved to her home town. Obviously he had options.

      Very few of use have anything near those options.

      If you have the wrong degree it most likely adds nothing to your chances of getting a better job. If having a lot of very advanced training and an IQ of 160 or above really are requirements to do your job most people aren’t going to get it and couldn’t do it if they did me included.

      • Gwad his own self says:

        She has a psychic degree and didn’t see that coming?

        BAD psychic.

  19. deowll says:

    Um, about those green jobs. You might want to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nSB1SdVHqQ&feature=player_embedded

    I got a bang out of it.

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Happy with the failures huh do-ill? Typical puke.

      but the written material says “the brake failed.” given its a prop driven by the wind, I always assumed those blades were pitch controlled so as to maintain a given rotational speed. Thats “high tech” and efficient. Never thought they would brake! Brakes break. Friction, Heat, and such. Not so with a simple gear.

      I wonder if a worthless puke like yourself designed it this way, you know, so the brain dead could get a bang out of it.

      • Bob73 says:

        Bobbo- I always like reading your posts right up until I come to the word “puke” at which point I always stop reading. Too bad too as your comments are otherwise usually worth reading.
        Why should it bother me? You seem to be a fairly intelligent person, Bobbo, so you figure it out (if you even care.)

  20. Trex says:

    This proves that Bush did not destroy the economy. Stripper bars are booming. Hallelujah Dubya!

  21. Rick says:

    What’s the ONE degree nobody mentioned???

    COMPUTER SCIENCE

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