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  1. roy b giv says:

    shoot him with your conceal carry weapon. howcome there are no female mass shooters?

    • hauntedsheep says:

      beat me to it. Just conceal carry, problem dealt with.

      • LibertyLover says:


        If the nut job had bullets flying at his ass every time he stuck his head in a door, he would stop acting like an ass and either kill himself or give up.

    • Rick says:

      All employers should hire AT LEAST one Zombie, because they’re immune to bullets and can confront and disarm the attacker.

    • Rick says:

      Females prefer to poison people to death, take their credit cards and go shopping.

      • Yawn says:

        Yes, there are quite a few psychopathic women out there.

        But let’s not forget about Munchhausen’s syndrome or even Post Pregnancy Depression either. That crap is also all mental and has hurt/killed more children than all the combined mass murderers have so far – each year!

        The only reason you don’t hear more about these other “stories” is probably because they aren’t as sensational. Yet, these cases do happen with a lot more frequency but only to an average of maybe one or two kids per case. It seems we only hear about them when they get sensational such as if a different race is involved, where violence is alleged and/or if the fictional kidnapper had a gun or something.

        So you just have to ask why this is? Why is it that 26 people shot to death is more news worthy than a thousand dead kids who may have been stabbed, poisoned or even tortured to death? Is it because they aren’t all killed by one crazy person? Is it because no one used a gun?! Or could it be because these stories might not get the ratings needed to stay competitive in the media circles?

        Point is, we’re not asking the right questions when it comes to guns or even violence. We should be asking the news media (and others) why Newton CT is even news any more. Just look at the other lesser known stories where even more horrible things have happened and it’s almost as if those stories have been shrugged off simply because they’ve already been told at a MOVIE THEATER or on TV!

        We might also ask our leaders why they now want to “do something” (stupid) given all the press that’s obviously been manipulated too. Because a more conspiracy minded person might actually think that these incidents were allowed to happen or possibly even coerced through some sort of secret mind control. (And there are some VERY valid reasons to be concerned there as well.)

  2. super77 says:

    This is definitely NOT an NRA sponsored video. Everyone would have an AK under their desk or sitting in the flower pot.

    • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

      The only problem I have with that is if certain people don’t know how to use their flower pot AK47! Not that they don’t know how to use the gun but that they don’t know TACTICS and might not be PREPARED! Things they teach you for your CC permit.

    • Rick says:

      That’s because at NRA headquarters, EVERYBODY is disgruntled.

  3. Likes2LOL says:

    Good thing those scissors weren’t the round-tip type…

    • Rick says:

      The most dangerous thing in an office is the paper cutter. Pull the handle off and it makes a good machete.

    • Rick says:

      The best thing to do in any office is to help save the most attractive woman you work with, because she will be impressed with your bravery and will reward you with sex.

  4. orchidcup says:

    It is best to have a strategy developed in your mind before an active shooter strikes.

    Every scenario demands a different strategy.

    It is unfortunate that citizens must think like tacticians, but we live in a free society where people go nuts and disregard the rights of the rest of us.

    • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

      You can blame the MEDIA for brainwashing people into thinking they have a chance at winning an argument with the COPS! Just look at Youtube!!!

      Now what do you think these brainwashed fools will do IF a deranged fool starts shooting up the place? Transform into Jackie Chan, Chuck Norris or some other bullet resistant HERO?!

      Give me a BREAK!

      Having a strategy is always a good idea. But without practice or SIMULATION (like a killer might get in a video game) it’s not likely going to help much.

  5. Dallas says:

    Grab a staple gun and tell him he needs to reload. Then, lunge at him and staple his eyes.

    • LibertyLover says:

      ok. You win.

      • Dallas says:

        now you see how limiting the clip size helps. The shooter is always concerned about how many he has left.

        • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

          …So says another FOOL who doesn’t know what 3D printing is.

        • deegee says:

          I doubt that is true.
          They are either counting shots, or simply changing magazines when one runs out.
          10 or 30 it makes no difference. The time to swap a magazine is less than two seconds, especially if they are using side-by-side or flip-over mag connectors.
          The people calling for bans who don’t even understand firearms are playing a fool’s game.

          What will make a difference is if small-caliber .223 firearms like the AR-15 become banned, and would-be-wackos move into medium-caliber .300/.308 firearms. The damage potential will be much greater since .2 calibers are stopped by most wall designs and .3 calibers go right through. Yes, I do have substantiated proof (gov/univ/rcmp studies).

          • Mextli says:

            I think they want to ban “armor piercing” or full metal jacket ammo. as well.

            Maybe people will switch to Hydra-Shok then. Much safer.

          • Rick says:

            The best time to shoot a person is when they’re changing magazines.

            If you play 1st person shooter games you learn this fact the hard way.

        • LibertyLover says:

          I said you win.

          I didn’t say you were correct 🙂

          • Dallas says:

            You know I’m right because you’re a thinking person. – really.

            The problem you have is you’re burdened by a philosophy that has you tunnel visioned and genetically programmed to follow symbols of strength , like weapons, because you’re subconsciously concerned about your masculinity!

            So, how am I doing at playing psychiatrist?

          • LibertyLover says:

            You kinda remind me of one of those little dogs that keeps yapping in the face of overwhelming power. No amount of proof, logic, or common sense is ever going to prevail with you.

            Please, don’t contaminate the gene pool with your feces encrusted seed. Leave the future to those who have a stake in it.

    • orchidcup says:

      A better tactic is to conceal yourself until he passes by, then approach quietly from the rear and put his lights out with a well-placed shot to back of the head with your concealed weapon.

      • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

        Whatever you say there JACKIE CHAN!

      • Dallas says:

        Another idea is set up a booby trap in the closet.

        Hide in the closet and carefully activate a crossbow or something from the Christian torture book that was already placed inside.

        Then, when you hear bad guy comes in. You say “I’m not in here” . Then, he cleverly figures out you’re there, open door and … bam. Crossbow shot in the head.

        • LibertyLover says:


          • Dallas says:

            You’re right there. We really need to come up with something better than the staple gun approach which is probably <5% effective.

      • Rick says:

        Keep a terminator handy, and activate him at the first sound of gunshots.

    • WmDE says:

      Well if you’ve got a staple gun……

  6. The Monster's Lawyer says:

    Do what they do around here when things get hinky. Call an all-hands meeting. That’ll do er.

    • Rick says:

      Oh man I hate those meetings, it means somebody either got fired or is getting fired.

  7. The Wrong Guy says:

    If you do shoot or staple him, make sure he’s dead or he’ll sue your ass for bodily injury, mental distress, impotence, and bad breath. Then he’ll come after you after he is acquitted. And if you do kill him, his relatives will sue. So your best bet is the let him kill you.

    • orchidcup says:

      If you don’t have deep pockets, the personal injury lawyers won’t give a shit.

      Your best bet is to kill him dead and have an airtight self defense story ready for the cops.

    • Gwad his own self says:

      If you kill him make sure it’s with a wholesome looking gun, like a 12ga shotgun or a snub-nosed .38

      The courtroom is not the time to regret your choice of an AR-15 for personal protection.

      • Likes2LOL says:

        Keeping your AR-15 with you at the office can be awkward, too.

        • Dallas says:

          A weapon that also doubles as an umbrella might work. Keep in umbrella stand. Just brainstorming here.

  8. Mr Diesel says:

    Actually you can buy insurance in case you are involved in a shooting. I have the most you can get. It covers legal fees for WHEN I sued for taking out a fucking dirtbag loser.

    But I can’t carry in my workplace so I’d get shot going out to my car, getting my 9mm and coming back in to remove the threat………

    • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

      Keep telling yourself your bullet proof. Maybe you think you can drive like Mario Andretti too!

      There’s a reason the young and stupid are sent to war. Perhaps you’ll live long enough to figure that out.

    • LibertyLover says:

      We not only allow concealed carry on my company’s grounds (office, company vehicles, etc), we encourage it.

      We’re a bunch computer geeks. Jackie Chans we are not. We need the Great Equalizer.

  9. MikeN says:

    According to DHS, the correct response is to run and hide.

    • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

      Don’t you mean run away OR hide?

      So far as I’m aware, only the Invisible Man and Wonder Woman are equipped with the ability to become invisible (hidden) AND run.

      Be careful that your entertainment indoctrination isn’t robbing you of your power to think!

    • Rick says:

      No Ninja to date has ever been shot. Learn how to be a Ninja.

  10. WmDE says:

    Carry one of these to work

    Legal everywhere ‘cept NY and Cal.

    • Dallas says:

      Fishing gear?

    • Dum, dum, dum, dum... says:

      Are you kidding me? AUTOMATIC weapons like that are ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE! You need special licensing to have one.

      So maybe you mean that’s it’s impossible to be licensed in NY or CA. Because that makes sense. They’re the only two States with a MAJORITY of IDIOTS! More than HALF of all idiots country wide live/work in either of those two States. THAT’S WHERE WE GET OUR ENTERTAINMENT AND WHERE MOST NEWS AGENCIES ARE LOCATED!

      • LibertyLover says:

        Are you kidding me? AUTOMATIC weapons like that are ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE! You need special licensing to have one.

        Actually, it’s not. This is a Slide Fire Stock. Your finger is actually pulling the trigger that fast. The stock is helping but it is still semi-automatic.

        They’re fun to shoot and take lots of practice.

        • Rick says:

          The slide-fire stock is the ultimate expression of violating the spirit of the law while adhering to the letter of the law.

      • So what says:

        “Are you kidding me? AUTOMATIC weapons like that are ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE! You need special licensing to have one.”

        Please read your comment again. Does it make any more sense the second time around?

  11. McCullough says:

    Basically the same thing they told us to do in the 60’s if a nuke were headed your way. It was laughable then as well.

    Duck and Cover.

    • msbpodcast says:

      But … But … Those nice people at Archer Productions would never have lied to us, now would they?

      You mean we would have ended up as greasy silhouette smears on a wall, or as smoking piles of rendered flesh, or as cancer-ridden ghosts-in-waiting with our skins falling from our bones anyway?

      I always get a kick at how naive, ineffectual and ineffective the American civil defense responses were.

      If you “see the flash” you’ve already got severe problems.

      A far more succinct set of instructions would have been to: bend forward as far as you can, pucker up and kiss your ass goodbye.

    • ± says:

      The magnitude of the lies issuing from the governance hired by sheeple has not diminished.

  12. WmDE says:

    Yes, the 22 long rifle can bring down….. er up both large and small mouth bass. Not recommended for trout.

  13. George says:

    Since I haven’t been to the range in years, my gun handling skills have gone to pot. Therefore, I’ve come to the realization that I will probably not be able to stop an active shooter with a gun. So, the only rational decision is keep a grenade at work. I’ll be killed by the shooter anyway, so I may as well take him with me, and who knows, maybe I’ll survive it!

    Seriously though. Instead of keeping firearms for the “active shooter” scenario, why not change the laws to allow for civilians to possess flash-bang devices like the cops use? They have their downsides too (they can be deadly if the target is too close and occasionally start fires) but the disorienting effect of them could stop one of those assholes in their tracks long enough for the unarmed survivors to kick the shit out him. I’d be willing to be trained and licensed to carry one of these so I don’t have to worry about taking a headshot with a pistol while under extreme duress.

  14. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    I usually note the way I come into a building and if other shorter exits are available. NOT for gun play but for fire safety. Doesn’t take any more time or effort, in fact it helps in releaving the boredom of an office visit.

  15. msbpodcast says:

    In a word: Telecommute.

    In another: Unemployment.

  16. ± says:

    I have my own company (~45 people) and in the company manual it states that people with concealed carry permits must leave the weapon in their car. No weapons in the building.
    Viewing the video and reading the responses and considering the Newtown thing, I am changing my policy to allow anyone with a concealed carry permit to carry it on them.

    If there was a bad guy, he wouldn’t give a shit about my manual.

    • Rick says:

      Criminals don’t give a shit about laws in general, but it doesn’t mean we should get rid of laws.

      • Hyph3n says:

        And that bastard who keeps stealing everyones lunches from the office refrigerator better watch out.

        I love my coworkers… but even in the rare circumstance, I don’t know if I wouldn’t take my chances with the shooter. Friendly fire is still fire.

  17. Hmeyers says:

    | “If there was a bad guy, he wouldn’t give a shit about my manual.”

    If this is true: “In 2010, the latest year for which statistics are available, there were 518 workplace homicides, and only 12 percent were conducted by a co-worker or former co-worker.”

    Then 88% of the time workplace homicide isn’t by an employee.


    • ± says:

      What is your point?

      • Hmeyers says:

        that your suggestion is quite logical.

        1. These crazy shooters tend to be unemployed.
        2. A killer isn’t going to honor an at-work gun policy
        3. It isn’t employees generally doing this stuff any way.

  18. Hyph3n says:

    Of course with a high capicity weapon shooting armor piercing rounds, a shooter could kill you from outside the room while you’re fumbling with the safety. But, when is reality an issue?

    • LibertyLover says:

      That’s what great about a Glock. No Fumbling!

      And there is no doubt that if a shooter managed to get into a building without being seen carrying a long arm that he might take out one or two people. But if everyone was armed and trained then it would stop there. There would be no target practice on a dozen unarmed people.

      • Hyph3n says:

        Oh, if someone makes it in with a high capacity clip, he’s taking out more than a two people. The Fort Hood shooter killed 13, and that was on a military base.

        So, the average Joe who squeezes off a few rounds at paper targets every other weekend in between football and dinner at a Mexican restaurant is going to go toe to toe with a psycho that probably has body armor and already knows he’s going to die? Even if Average Joe manages to not piss himself and pull his gun, he will likely empty weapon, never hit him, and then either dies or run like the rest of us.

        I like guns too, but let’s not pretend the world is a Rambo movie.

        • WmDE says:

          About Ft. Hood. A military base is actually a gun-free zone. The shooter killed 13 because he was the only one armed.

          • Rick says:

            Military bases are always gun free zones. The MP’s generally don’t look highly upon people walking around with weapons who aren’t specifically authorized to carry.

            The Ft. Hood shooter picked a weapon with an especially high capacity, the FN 5.7mm pistol which can hold 20 rounds per magazine and can pierce most soft body armor, even with SS196 ammo.

  19. LibertyLover says:

    Just received an email from my Aunt. Turns out all the mass shootings were conducted by registered democrats. No NRA members, either.

    Ft Hood : Registered Democrat.

    Columbine: Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats.

    Virginia Tech: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff. Registered Democrat

    Colorado Theater: Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant.

    Connecticut School Shooter: Registered Democrat; hated Christians

    Perhaps we should just disarm all the democrats and let the rest of society take care of them.

    Seems like the world would be a safer place.

    • So what says:

      Seems a rather short list for “all the mass shootings”. Cherry picking makes you look like an idiot, oops too late.

      • LibertyLover says:

        These seem to be the only ones the media and the democrats are talking about.

        I didn’t want to confuse you with more proof.

        I know how much it makes your heads hurt.

        • So what says:

          You’re making assumptions again, I am neither a Democrat nor anti-gun. The gun safe in the basement and the two rifles I bought at the Columbia gun show say otherwise. Still trying to prove your an idiot don’t bother we already know.

          • LibertyLover says:

            I’ll give you a chance to prove your point, the same chance I’m giving Dallas.

            Show me an NRA member or someone who was not a registered democrat that committed an act of mass shooting here in the US and I’ll concede I’m wrong.

            Be sure you only go back as a couple of decades. I wouldn’t want you to break Dallas’s rules.

            Until then, you’ll just have to swallow the bitter pill labeled, “Liberals are the True Gun Nuts.”

      • Dallas says:

        Agree. It’s like collecting a bunch of feathers and selling it as a chicken.

        You wanna see a chicken? Here’s a chicken!

        • LibertyLover says:

          Show me an NRA member or someone who was not a registered democrat that committed an act of mass shooting here in the US and I’ll concede I’m wrong.

          Be sure you only go back as a couple of decades. I wouldn’t want you to break your own rules.

          Until then, you’ll just have to swallow the bitter pill labeled, “Liberals are the True Gun Nuts.”

          • Rick says:

            The last 2 kooks were both republicans. The crazy NRA nut who held a kid hostage in his personal survival bunker was known to hate the government….”from obama on down”

  20. hmeyers says:

    Illinois is the only state without conceal-carry. Crime in Chicago is really out of control — more people murdered in Chicago during last 10 years than US soldiers killed in Afghanistan.

    And Chicago has one of the strictest gun bans in the nation.

    Violent crime is significantly higher in the UK and France (although homicides are far lower).

    In the USA, 64% of homicide victims have a criminal record, so a good bulk of the gun violence is between the 2% criminal population.

    I think the more unbiased analysis of gun violence in the USA indicates we don’t actually have a “gun violence problem.”

    Low rate of violent crime compared to much of Europe and criminals killing each other constitutes the majority of the homicides (I see this as a +, not a minus).

    • Captain Obvious says:

      New York’s are pretty much on par with Chicago’s.Why the difference? Hint, you’ll have to think for yourself to figure it out.

    • Rick says:

      Actually Atlanta, GA that wonderful red state has the highest crime rate in the nation.

      The obsession with Chicago is a righwing jab at Obama, though Chicago isn’t even in the top 10.

  21. MikeN says:

    Don’t forget Oklahoma City, not a mass shooting, but 2 guys who traveled to the Philippines to learn bomb-making from an Islamic terror cell. As the President at the time was a Democrat, it is likely that the Muslims including one in Oklahoma City who were never really investigated were not Democrats but more sympathetic to Republicans.

    • Rick says:

      Oh please, we all know OKC was done by 3 guys, 2 of whom were from the Michigan Militia, and they funded their bomb with illegal sales of stolen guns.

      • don’t insert facts in the comments on this blog. i’m afraid that most of the folks on here live in an ideological wonderland.

        • Rick says:

          Thats for sure. I live in OKC, I heard the blast, and for weeks I drove to work and passed near the blast site on the way, and smelled the decaying bodies. There were many incidents of anti-muslim violence, a hindu man was terrorized by Channel 4 because those morons didn’t know the diff between a muslim and a hindu, and the conspiracy theories flew right and left.

          In the end it turned out to be a 100% american anti-government operation, made by a bunch of white guys who think that the government was gonna take their guns and force them to drive electric cars and eat vegetarian food.

          In other words, standard rightwing kooks.

  22. The0ne says:

    Wasn’t the answer that you need a another guy with a gun to take out the other guy with the gun. I’m pretty sure that was the Rep. answer. So if I shoot like sht I will still win because I’m the good guy with the gun, blowing my fingers off in the process. I don’t know, logic seems a tad off.

    • LibertyLover says:

      If you are dumb enough to blow your fingers off when you shoot your own gun, you are not the good guy.

      You are the dangerous guy.

  23. This is such a rare thing to have happen. People in this country love to be afraid of other people in this country. That’s what’s wrong with this country right now, fear.


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