In the weeks leading up to his alleged shootings that left three dead and another wounded, former LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner is thought of have stalked some of those named in a manifesto he is believed to have posted online, law enforcement sources told The Times.

Authorities were involved in a massive manhunt for Dorner, 33, and issued alerts across California and Nevada for the former cop, who is suspected of killing a couple in Orange County earlier this week and fatally shooting a Riverside police officer Thursday morning.

Dorner is suspected of visiting the homes of some of those named in the manifesto as he allegedly plotted out his attacks, according to the sources.

The Los Angeles Police Department had dispatched units across the area to protect at least 40 officers and others named in the rambling manifesto that Dorner…posted online.

Dorner was believed to be carrying multiple weapons, including an assault rifle.

Law enforcement authorities said they were concerned about Dorner’s military background and weapons training. The lengthy online message allegedly written by the former Navy Reserve lieutenant threatened “unconventional and asymmetrical warfare” against police.

Dorner received awards for his expertise with a rifle and pistol, according to military records obtained by The Times. He received an Iraq Campaign Medal and was a member of mobile inshore undersea warfare unit.

The former officer, who was fired from the LAPD in 2009, is suspected of shooting three officers, one of whom died, in Riverside County early Thursday morning…

Early Thursday, two women delivering newspapers in Torrance were shot by Los Angeles police who were guarding an officer named in the manifesto.

The women, shot in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue, were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase said. One suffered a minor wound, and the other was struck twice and listed in stable condition, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck told reporters. “Tragically,” Beck said, “we believe this is a case of mistaken identity.”

Follow the link to the TIMES for multiple sidebars. Dorner is said to have tried to steal a boat – he was part of the LAPD’s harbor patrol. He’s also reported to be carrying a .50-calibre sniper rifle.

  1. Django says:

    He was fired for what? When others that did worse are protected and LAPD wants Manefesto read on the radio. Hmmm, there is alot here we will never know after he is dead.

    • mharry860 says:

      That’s what I was wondering, he turns someone in and gets fired. Maybe he has a reason to be a little pissed off.

    • So what says:

      According to NBC news he was fired for making false statements. Take that for what you will.

      • pedro says:

        Not only NBC, all MSM.

        A strange tale about how he was booted for supposedly hitting an schizophrenic while under his custody.

        He blames his lawyer, his supervisor and many more. The first victims were the lawyer’s daughter & her boyfriend.

        Something fishy about that tale that supposedly happened in 2009 and is only now he’s acting?

        • mharry860 says:

          Pedro, it was his superior who hit the person.

          • pedro says:

            Huh! Interesting. Still, why did he waited so long?

          • LibertyLover says:

            Because he tried going through the courts to “clear his name”. The final judgements just came about recently.

          • pedro says:

            There ya go. Funny how it’s playing out like the first Rambo movie. Let’s also blame movies & video games in here. This guy is a liberul’s trifecta.

        • jpfitz says:

          I remember the shooter also being a Navy reservist. When the Navy found out that he lost his badge, he was discharged from the Navy.

          Here’s another disgruntled military man.

  2. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    LAPD Chief Charlie Beck told reporters. “Tragically,” Beck said, “we believe this is a case of mistaken identity.” /// I don’t read Manisfestos==too rapidly it becomes like reading a bible, doesn’t make any sense unless you already believe. Does anyone know?: does a close reading of this Manisfesto reveal that one assassination technique of this large Black Man include masquerading as two short white women going door to door in a neighborhood? Man–that special ops training is getting pretty good.

  3. Egon Ruuda says:

    Can someone explain to me why California has one of the highest rate of gun violence and murder per capita in the union whilst also having the most restrictive gun laws of all the states?

    • because we have a lot of people living in cities? because we have a lot of gang violence? because we have a very wide gap between rich and poor in this sate? this article isn’t about your position on guns though. please don’t make everything about your soap box issue, k thanks.

    • pedro says:

      Two words: Liberals, Latinos

      • 1 word for you: hater.

        Stop blaming liberals and minorities for all the ills of our country. I know it’s good for folks like you to make everything simple so you can understand them, but nothing is that simple.

        • pedro says:

          Let me get this straight, you name gang wars as one of the reasons why there’s so much gun violence in California and you bitch at me for naming minorities? What the hell are those gangs filed with?

          I smell a smug liberul with sensitive skin.

  4. LibertyLover says:

    I read the first 1/4 and the last 1/4.

    If this guy is half as dangerous as he thinks he is, the LAPD is in deep shit; not just from him but from copycats, too.

    • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Say LL–could you do everyone on this blog a favor?

      Since you read some of the Manifesto, can you give us a synopsis of any length appropriate rather than just your gut response conclusion?

      Eg: “The guy claims to be able to make head shots from one mile out and estimates he can take out a squad of SWAT team members when sent to a set up address.”==ie, something that demonstrates you actually read anything…. and why someone else might want to?

      Not for ME and other trolls==but the fine community of DU’s here who have been waiting for anything original from yourself.

      Dare to Impress!

  5. Somebody says:

    This is a very serious matter.
    The man is a whistle-blower.
    There will be no attempt to take him alive.

  6. Somebody says:

    Thank God we civilians can safely sit on the sidelines while the regime crushes those veterans who are overly concerned with justice and the Constitution.

    They are all potential terrorists, don’t you know.

  7. John E. Quantum says:

    This is kind of like when the DC sniper was on the loose. A huge amount of manpower was used trying to stop him and quite a few peoples civil rights were trampled on. For the most part the public accepted the abuse as a necessary evil.

  8. MikeN says:

    The guy is killing cops and it will end with the death of this cop. Liberals are ecstatic.

  9. jpfitz says:

    The number 33 sticks out like a sore thumb. I really hope for the safety of this guys enemy’s that the talk of a .50 caliber sniper rifle is bogative.

    His vehicle has been found and burned out. The shooter of the day could be anywhere in the southwest right now.

    • So what says:

      A 300 win mag, WSM, or your basic non-exotic 30.06, .308, or .223 is lethal and accurate out to 500 yards well beyond for anything larger than the .223. It just doesn’t sound as sexy in the news.

        • So what says:

          Yes sparky the 50 shoots along way. In your extensive research you did notice that non fifty calibers also have thousand yard plus kills ranges, didn’t you.

          Confirmed sniper kills
          rifle range caliber
          M24-1,367 yds 7.62×51
          L115A3-1,853 yrds .338 Lapua
          Tac 338-2,100 yrds .338 Lapua
          L115A3-2,707 yrds .338 Lapua Longest confirmed non-fifty kill.

          It’s not the gun that’s scary, it’s the person behind the trigger. If they have the skill set they can kill you with a .22 at 100 plus yrds.

          • jpfitz says:

            Agreed. It’s the individual that’s deadly.
            Not the rifle. See guns don’t kill, people do…but let’s not go there again.

  10. jpfitz says:

    Speaking of Christopher Jordan Dorner.
    CNN’s Erin Burnett just went off the rails and asked Mike Rogers who is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee if drones would be used in this type of manhunt. Good ole U.S. of A. where are you.

  11. jpfitz says:

    Christopher Jordan Dorner’s rant reads similar to the movie I watched late last night. “Dark Blue”

    • pedro says:

      The guy has a hit list and most if not all the remaining hits are cops

      • jpfitz says:

        Not just LAPD but their families are targets. Meaning that’s a lot of people to protect, this shooter is trying to create chaos.

  12. dusanmal says:

    Augh, tough solution for this one for Progressives. Should they call out for removing guns from police as policemen obviously go mad and kill or should they keep their policy of heavily armed police and helpless citizens? Tough one.

    • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Obviously—guns are killing people. They have that hypnotic mind control ability that makes their will to be ambulatory take flight.

      Police have computers, radios, backup, tasers, training to undertake 99% of their work. Leave the 1% for a special trained SWAT team.

      Stop failing to see that guns are the problem, not the answer.

      Just look.

      • Gwad his own self says:

        Leave the 1% for a special trained SWAT team.

        1%? You haven’t been paying attention. They call out SWAT for just about anything these days. Maybe it’s not nefarious, they probably get extra pay for SWAT, so they’re just padding their paychecks.

        And never forget that it’s a requirement that any department within an organization (public or private) MUST spend all of their budget every year or risk being defunded next year.

        Plus, I’m sure they love running around looking like soldiers.

        • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          I’ve noticed that and agree. I’m not describing the present case though.

          When it makes sense for USA police forces to be better integrated into the communities they serve and only need radios, no guns, then SWAT will be greatly reduced.

          I grog your understanding that SWAT use is to pad the pay checks. Happens all the time with any specialty pay. Just treating the community as if it were a nail, instead of needing social safety net health care services.

  13. bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    jpfitz says:
    2/7/2013 at 6:52 pm

    Pedro, this subject matter is serious. Please tread lightly. /// Hmmm… taking on the Role and Character of the Church Lady?

    Many if not most issues raised here at DU are “serious.” I also get upset. Tellingly, I am led to play with names, be accusatory, and scatological. I never have thought of trying to shame anyone though. No fun at all, or even I thing appropriate, to be all dignified and stuff. I will follow your progress in this new modem for outrage response.

    • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      btw—kicking Pedro will do no good at all. Aim for his donkey, thats where it could hurt. Threaten to dress the animal with a red kerchief and a too wide sombrero.

      That gets Pedro all the time…. but ya gotta be firm!

    • jpfitz says:

      Did you read the complete rant of the frustrated madman?

      Some clarity and light eking into the LAPD. I see this bad event having the ability to change the sky above forever in the USA.

      • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Nah…as stated…. the 2-3 I tried to read in the past are actually hurtful to me. They might start with a good idea/half a sentence and then they go to a place that ruins the set up.

        Like talking to anyone who vaunts and ideology over every day common sense and logic. Like “seriously” wanting to argue guns don’t kill people. You see my short fuse on that serious subject…. I can’t imagine trying to read a whole rant on the issue.

        And that is why I asked LL to synthesize it rather than just be a ditto head. He can impress and inform us in a single stroke.

        Sounds like you did?===whad he say?

        • jpfitz says:

          Like I said…He’s a sensitive man, who on the playground stood his ground and when called a pejorative for the first time he popped the kid in the face. This race issue followed him all his life. In the LAPD there was the racism of the Nazi type.
          Singing Nazi youth songs. There in the Academy he reported the racist behavior and was not given the time of day.

          He goes on about his female partner, nicknamed…chupacabra. And the female officer is proud of the nickname.

          There’s much more about his credit union account trying to being hacked. The IP address leads to?? You guessed it chupakabra.
          They go to court and chup. lies, so he says.
          Bla bla bla. He is fired by the LAPD. Which in turn gets him booted from the Naval reserve.

          Injustice and Constitution defender now will assassinate all who wronged him, including their children. Reason being he wasn’t afforded the same opportunity.

          The shooter has anti personal mines or something similar. He’s a decent shot but not a sharp shooter. Being trained by the LAPD he knows all their tactics and responses.

          Death is his intention. All aimed at the LAPD. Even the good cops, cause they stood by and watched. He plans on dying to fix the LAPD forever. Besides using conventional weapons, he claims to be able to have all the resources of technology and training to find your wife and children.

          Christopher Jordan Dorner addressed his rant “To America”. He wants his name back. Meaning his reputation has been ruined through no fault of his own, but, because of injustice through racism and the blue line.

          There’s much more. Too much. I can’t believe I typed so many keys.

          Church Lady tired now.
          Church Lady will be shoveling a lot of snow Saturday. Ahh.

          • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Wow! Thanks for the effort. The result of which, I will give it a starting read.

            Shirley, the manifesto is not laced with the comedic elements you provided?

            I spit beer thru my nose with “Chupacabra”….. AND she’s proud of it.”

            On only a slight tangent, the result of my break in and trying to evict my house mate, I’ve had fun interacting with my own Thin Blue Line. As long as I view them as stooges carrying out the department policies, I stay calm.

            Money makes the irritations in life go away=my father used to say. Having only a little money, also makes even little problems go away.

            The future is so bright, I gotta wear Kevlar Underwear with my Shades.

  14. dave m brewer says:

    Two women delivering newspapers were struck by gunfire.

    They were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police said.Their blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers were scattered in the street.

    • dave m brewer says:

      Within minutes they opened fire on another truck around the corner. The police isn’t going to take this man alive. They have orders to shoot to kill and ask questions later. Or should I say… their questions already have answers and printed out for the media.

      This guy knows to much and the police is going to kill him no matter what… I’m sure O-Dumb-Shit has the drones out looking for him.

      • jpfitz says:

        What do you bet there’s a hell-fire on it. Screw reconnaissance, one click, boom.

  15. Mextli says:

    We can take comfort in the fact he passed a background check.

    On second thought can people change after a background check?

    • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      OTOH–imagine those who fail?

      • Somebody says:


        Will your second childhood culminate in puberty?

        Not that I want you to be able to breed.

        • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Well that is certainly generic I must say.

          Got nuts?

    • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

      Not just a background check, but also a psychological evaluation.

  16. Cap'n Kangaroo says:

    While catching a portion of “The Rachel Maddow Show” as I grazed cable, the following specious conspiracy theory came to mind with absolutely no facts or reason to back it up.

    The manhunt for this former cop may be something to take the news media’s mind off of the “Drone strikes against Americans are Legal.”

    Add Winter Storm Nemo hitting the East coast and the weekend news cycle will be saturated.

    • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      I like Rachel. More “news” and ANALYSIS than most other shows, but she is only human and I have noted MSNBC has its own polemic faults. less but just as they all do.

      Hooman Beings do love to see patterns in the random.

      • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

        On the same nite I came across “The Ed Show” on MsNBC interviewing someone about Chris Christies weight and how tough it would be for him to slim down. The person interviewed?

        Rev. Al Sharpton.

        How lazy does a show and its producers have to be to go no further than their own network to book a “guest”. Rev. Al has lost a lot of weight but so has Hucklberry and Al Roker.

      • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

        I do agree on “Rachel”. She has as much objective analysis on one hr as another network has all nite.

  17. bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    jpfitz says:
    2/7/2013 at 9:14 pm

    Like I said…He’s a sensitive man, who on the playground stood his ground and when called a pejorative for the first time he popped the kid in the face. This race issue followed him all his life. /// You know…. if any of our Ed’s were “of color” we might get a post once in a while on this inflammatory subject.

    I mean, after all, we fought the Civil War and my Family has never owned slaves (other than apprentices in a grain mill my Greatest Grand Dad owned, built and ran in parts of Canada way back when) , and we gave them welfare and affirmative action and didn’t Clinton say we were sorry?

    How come that doesn’t settle it?

    …… and here might be just one more sad example of why not.

    • jpfitz says:

      bobbo said,

      “I mean, after all, we fought the Civil War and my Family has never owned slaves (other than apprentices in a grain mill my Greatest Grand Dad owned, built and ran in parts of Canada way back when) , and we gave them welfare and affirmative action and didn’t Clinton say we were sorry?

      How come that doesn’t settle it?”

      I don’t think settling the score is the problem. It’s the continued good ole white boy attitude prevalent and encouraged in the ranks, be it the military or the LAPD.
      Being called a nigger as a black man from a fellow officer who’s white caused the black officer to ask for such language to be stopped. Add to that another officer who chimes in and says I’ll say nigger any time he wants to whom ever he wants. The black officer lost his cool and throttled the white officer. Complaints were made and all were put on some sort of disciplinary leave. Nothing changed, the culture of racism continued in the department and we’re back to the good ole white boy attitude and treatment of minorities.

      I will say one thing about this tortured soul, while on the job, from his rant he seemed to have compassion for the individuals he had to arrest, especially the mentally ill and elderly. I am coming to the conclusion that maybe he was just too sensitive for the job, or is it that the LAPD is rife with psychopaths, who enjoy inflicting pain and anguish on the citizens that pay their salaries. I don’t condone his actions in any way, I just try putting myself into his shoes and walk with his frustration. If not for my wife I would have been a member of the NYPD. I wonder if I would have had skin thick enough for the job.

  18. pedro says:

    Couldn’t we use a drone to hunt him down? It would make for another epic photo of Obama at the situation room

    • jpfitz says:

      Well now we know Pedro’s just peachy with drones killing on American soil. How’s about Obummer sending a predator drone your way. All the inflammatory remarks you make about the potus surely deserves a shot back at ya.

      • pedro says:

        Sarcasm son, sarcasm.

        • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          I think jp may have a loose wire on his sarcasm detector sensor.

          If his skin is too thin for this blog, Shirley the NYPD would have ended in tragedy.

          Another hero too proud for the slings and arrows of this benighted world.

          • jpfitz says:

            Hey, don’t talk about me like I’m not here.

            bobbo, I may be a affected by external conditions or stimuli but this blog has taught me some lessons about information and the human condition. Especially how some here on the blog are very different from myself.

            And…yea, I probably would have either drank myself to death or chewed the end of a service revolver, if not for the fortune of meeting my wife of 26 years.

            I’m a fortunate man in many ways, understanding and compassion regarding our world is my burden at times. So much so that I find this blog a sounding board. It helps me to cope.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Are people different? I was shocked and amused to find this out when corporate management went to a team building retreat. We had our “colors” done. Like 99% of those in management, I was blue/green if I recall correctly, and not surprisingly the people I did not relate to at all were all kinds of orange and yellow.

            The more interesing part is after the colors were established, the proctor made fun of each of us by telling us each what else we liked and disliked and “why.” Also told us what other perceptions and challenges went with those colors–what we were good at and what we were bad at AND HOW THE TEAM benefited from the full rainbow.

            I thought preferring to ride a motorcycle was the RIGHT answer. Seems its ok to take a walk too.

            We are all different and the same at the same time. The trick is to prefer to do something! You might enjoy googling for some character tests. Usually fun to take even when they are “wrong.” They teach us that people are indeed different ((take more test until “but still the same” becomes apparent.))

        • jpfitz says:

          I do have a sarcasm radar malfunction at times.
          I have always been too impulsive.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Like everything else, everything has pros and cons associated with it.

            The challenge for an EXISTENTIAL man is to pick and choose between them.

            Your goal evidently is to become a happy man. Happy as defined by the Framers of our Constitution: “a good life lived well.”

            Nirvanna is rarely reached but only those on the trip find any at all.

          • jpfitz says:

            Not to be a Debbie downer but the US Constitution has been trampled on and is a concern to me. My offspring won’t be afforded the same rights the way our police state is heading. I feel frustrated by watching our young do nothing. OWS was a start and encouraging, but, nothing has come of the protests. The money men who screwed the economy have been given bonuses and the finagling still continues, same as it ever was.

            Thanks for the color assessment thingy. Never heard of it. I revel in the gain of knowledge, one new word or a new piece of history learned is my responsibility to myself.

            BTW we got 20 inches of white powder up here on Long Island. Oh…how I wish I was in the Palm Springs area now. I did enjoy watching mother nature last night though. Blizzards are a sight to see, snowing sideways with drifts of five feet.

  19. c0yote says:

    Another right-wing looney, aye?

  20. redacted says:

    This loon said he will surrender if he gets an apology from LAPD.
    In a news confrence this afternoon a spokesman said they would
    not issue an apology. What a stupid hard-headed position to
    take. Make the statement! No one on earth but maybe the
    murder is going to beleave it……

  21. Mrsurfboard says:

    Just for the record, as per his manifesto, this guy is a big supporter of Obama and Hilary. He is also for gun control. Go figure.

    • LibertyLover says:

      Democrats are the worst Gun Nuts.

    • Hyph3n says:

      Just for the record, I don’t see where he mentions Obama, Hillary or gun control in his manifesto.

      • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

        So you’re saying Mrsurfboard was to lazy to provide a few quotes from the manifesto to prove his statement, or maybe he doesn’t know how to use “cut and paste” on his computer, or maybe he just made the sh*t up?

      • Hyph3n says:

        FYI- The linked manifesto must be edited. Here’s the longer one…

        Don’t worry conservatives… he throws some love your way…

        Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no sh*t taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.”


        “The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.”

      • Dallas says:

        In the Teapublican news bubble, he’s a liberal. Those of us who live outside the bubble just need to roll the eyes.

        • pedro says:

          Never wasting an opportunity the be the most moronic person in the room.

          Please remove yourself from society, get very far away from our “bubble”. It has to be very sad being around you. I pity those people

      • McCullough says:

        From Christopher Dorner’s manifesto:


        Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook.

        Loves Piers Morgan:

        …give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws.

        The killer is also a huge Obama supporter and fan of gun-control.

        Loves Obama:

        You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama.

        Pro Gun Control:

        Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

        Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”

        The guy is all over the place, but Mrsurfboard is correct – Editor.

        • Cap'n Kangaroo says:

          Thank you for doing some work that others passed on.

        • Hyph3n says:

          He’s worse than a Democrat… he’s a moderate.

        • Dallas says:

          Your first and leading comment was false . He’s Anti Wayne LaPierre.

          Therefore the rest of your post was not worth reading and assumed to be equally flawed and misleading.

          • pedro says:

            Your first comment was stupid therefore, you’re stupid

          • McCullough says:

            “Your first and leading comment was false . He’s Anti Wayne LaPierre. Therefore the rest of your post was not worth reading and assumed to be equally flawed and misleading.”

            And your point is? Please explain your position Dallas, as this isn’t a “post” just cut and paste from the man’s manifesto. I’m listening….

          • Zero says:

            “Nyah Nyah words I don’t like! Not listening!”

            Grow up, man. Narrow mindedness just makes you a tool.

            I swear, you and Pedro need to kiss and make up or something…

      • leemaps says:

        You didn’t read his manifesto, then…

        (Though gun control is mentioned as an acronym: AWB – Assault Weapons Ban)

        He also says George H W Bush is his 2nd favorite exPotUS.

        IMO, the manifesto starts out specific and seemingly credible…eventually winds down into a random collection of opinions/gripes. It’s a lot like the movie ‘Falling Down’ some years ago.

  22. Long Dong says:

    It’s like someone once said, “you have to be a good bully if you want to be a good cop.” And true to the bully stereotype we now have active cops shooting unarmed women delivering news papers. And all over some crazy ex-cop targeting active cops who probably deserve to cower a little. Frankly, it sounds a little like gang warefare.

    Of course, this may all just be be a matter of a few disrespectful cowards who have finally pissed off the wrong guy. Cause when I see a force of cowards such as those who were on duty after huricane Katrina hit or cowards who taser 80-year old grandmothers (and the list goes on) it does make me wonder just how much of a lunatic this ex-cop really is. Crazy for getting this radical and shooting someone, sure. But just how crazy may be the real question since the cop who was shot may have deserved to lose his job but I doubt he should have lost his life.

  23. msbpodcast says:

    Maybe, just maybe, you need to have a yearly renewal process for your gun license.

    • FunyFarm says:

      Every 4 years is enough. Oh and BTW. Officers of the law do not have to carry a permit. But I do fair??? I’m just saying.
      ?? Well maybe it is a story that shall play out. We may never find out why they would not play reindeer ( police) games with this guy. And just what drove him over the edge.

      In the morning JCD Still luv ya man 😉

  24. orchidcup says:

    Has anyone noticed that most crazed mass-murderers have some kind of “manifesto” they want to be publicized?

    Maybe the ex-cop has a legitimate beef about being fired for being a whistleblower. Maybe not.

    Now he will be dead and nobody will know anything for sure.

    There is a revenge motive here. Nothing more.

    • McCullough says:

      I just wonder how many anti-depressants he is/was taking.

      • orchidcup says:

        That is a valid concern.

        My brother-in-law shot himself in the mouth in front of his wife and children after his wife brought up the subject of divorce.

        I learned later that he was under treatment by a psychiatrist for depression and he was prescribed antidepressants.

        Without knowing all the facts, it is impossible to say whether the antidepressants were a contributing factor. I would not be surprised to learn that they were not helpful.

  25. The Monster's Lawyer says:

    It was reported on our local news that he was going to “continue killing until his name is cleared”. I dnd’t read the manifesto, but if that appeared anywhere in it….

  26. orchidcup says:

    Excerpt from the killer’s “manifesto:”

    I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.

    I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small-scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.

    Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.

    This killer is deadly serious about his intentions.

    He will extract revenge until he is terminated.

    He will not be taken alive. He will commit suicide before surrendering to authorities.

    He has already killed one victim that was not related to the perceived injustices he outlined in his manifesto.

    He has passed the point of no return. The only resolvable outcome to this scenario is his death.

    • msbpodcast says:

      Sad isn’t it?

      There’ll probably be a few more deaths before this gets resolved, with the inevitable suicide by cop.

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  28. msbpodcast says:

    Why are you giving these spammers free advertising space on your blog?

    Collect or bounce them.

  29. FunyFarm says:

    Ever notice this shtufff only happens when the 2 nd amendment is in question ??? Hmmmm? Nuff said


    • orchidcup says:

      The Second Amendment is not in question.

      As always, the gun control debate centers around the type of firearm that is allowable under the Constitution.

      Virtually everyone agrees that bazookas, howitzers and hand grenades should not be held in private hands.

      Beyond that, there is a lot of room for debate.

    • bobbo, anti-authoritarian yet still democratically oriented pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      What shtuff are you referring to? There are multiple murders by gun every day in America. Group shootings on a weekly basis and Mass Murders every few months.

      Are you confusing the right to kill people with Second Amendment rights?

      Hmmm…. that could explain a lot.

  30. The Monster's Lawyer says:

    He looks like a pleasant enough fellow. I’d sell him a gun. 🙂


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