Two fifth-grade boys were held on $100,000 bond each after being charged with conspiracy to commit murder at their school in Washington state, officials said.

The boys, ages 10 and 11, were expected to be formally charged in juvenile court with conspiracy to commit first-degree murder, possession of a firearm and witness tampering for allegedly bringing a stolen gun and a knife to school and threatening to kill a number of classmates…

The boys at Fort Colville Elementary School were taken into custody Thursday after a search revealed one boy had a knife and a handgun in his backpack.

During interviews, police learned the boys intended to use the weapons Thursday, Stevens County Prosecutor Tim Rasmussen said.

“These young men conspired to kill,” Rasmussen said. “It was interrupted by the bravery of a fourth grader who saw something and said something … and interrupted a murder.”

Colville School District Superintendent Michael Cashion said the plot was discovered before school started Thursday…

“We’ve been told that the boys had a plan to kill an ex-girlfriend … and harm other students,” Cashion said. “There was no list, but names were given to the police.”

I can’t get my mind around it,” he said.

What kind of culture teaches a child the best way to solve questions of love and sex – is with a gun?

  1. MikeN says:

    Yet Obama was campaigning with the rappers who promote such things.

    • Dallas says:

      Whaaa whaaa. The negro won and i’m still sad.. whaaa

      • pedro says:

        Go to a mirror and repeat that.

        That idiotic you look around here, moron! Shoo!

        • What? The moth is always drawn to the flame? says:

          Always talking to yourself, funny little you!

          • pedro says:

            Oh look! The IQ challenged guy that flies into the flame here to defend his equally IQ challenged friend.

            Although I have to hand it to you, replying to DUhllass is like talking to the wind

      • Guyver says:

        Whaaa whaaa. The negro won and i’m still sad.. whaaa

        Typical liberal rant playing the race card.

        • jpfitz says:

          Not much of a rant. Dallas’s comment registers with a lot of white middle aged and older southerners. Down in the land of Dixie.

  2. BigBoyBC says:

    Kids grow-up so fast these days…

  3. LibertyLover says:

    Lack of Home Training.

    • spsffan says:


      And an alarming lack of parental supervision to boot!

    • Gwad his own self says:

      Yeah. Tie them to a chair and make them watch religious TV all day.

      That should fix ’em right up.

    • Dallas says:

      So we agree. That’s twice this year.

      The kids need to be charged, convicted and then sentenced to death. The parents should be charged for maintaining them in jail while they await execution

      • pedro says:

        You should lick Obama’s boots at least 3 times a day. You should show him your real appreciation

  4. orchidcup says:

    What kind of culture teaches a child the best way to solve questions of love and sex – is with a gun?

    American Culture.


    Video Games.



    • MikeN says:

      Don’t worry. They’ve banned tobacco ads because they influence kids, and are cracking down on ads for junk food.

      But try and go after sex or violence, and they say it has no effect.

    • McCullough says:

      To say they have no effect is truly naive.

      • pedro says:

        Specially in today’s families were the parent’s need for “living their lives” is more important than supervising, educating & nurturing their kids.

    • Dallas says:

      The problem is parenting sucks in this country. They sheeple drop off their spawn on to the schools and make it parenting someone else’s problem.

      When I was a kid I had strict parents and there was just as much violence. I turned out to be an amazing, brilliant and law abiding citizen.

      • pedro says:

        What the hell are you talking about? You have no morals to talk about parenting.

        As a matter of fact, yours should go to jail for being really lousy parents, the poster couple of shity parenting.

    • Admfubar says:

      “What kind of culture teaches a child the best way to solve questions of love and sex – is with a gun?”

      nope those are all wrong…
      it is the NRA… who’s motto is profit before lives..

      kinda like all big corporations

  5. deegee says:

    The parents should go to jail as well.
    Failure to raise your children properly.

    All too often I see parents allowing their tweeners to play ‘Rated M’ video games and watch ‘PG13,NC17,14A,18A,R’ movies.

    There is this little thing called parenting that no longer exists with the majority of people. Most parents are too lazy and believe they are so entitled that society should pay for and raise their children.

    • MikeN says:

      Stuff like that would get you labeled a weirdo on this blog. Parents should allow their kids to consume whatever the culture produces.

    • Anonymous Coward says:

      That sort of talk will get you labeled a Racist, as most of the parents going to jail would be the proud parents of all those 2 million or so mostly black and mexican gang bangers in the USA.

    • Gwad his own self says:

      No kids of your own, huh?

      Don’t feel bad, lots of people with no parental experience feel qualified to give advice to real life parents. Boy, sounds easy doesn’t it?

      • dusanmal says:

        It would be not only easier but proper if parents were held responsible for their kids actions. Not because of judgment on good/bad parenting. Because child is not capable of proper judgment until approximate age of 16-21, biologically (as most things in biology, no clear cut date but essentially no human under 16 is able to make sound judgment, most get it by 18 and if you don’t get it by 21, you’ll never have it. Independent of culture, race, time,…). Until that age parents must be held responsible for their children actions. Achieving two goals: punishment of those culpable; incentive for parents to take responsibility for their children upbringing/actions as they should.

        • deegee says:


        • Gwad his own self says:

          No kids of your own, huh?

          Don’t feel bad, lots of people with no parental experience feel qualified to give advice to real life parents. Boy, sounds easy doesn’t it?

          • pedro says:

            Boy didn’t obey you much, eh?

            Don’t worry, live every mistake you made on him proudly, just like these two boys’ parents

  6. wow says:

    “These young men conspired to kill,” Rasmussen said. “It was interrupted by the bravery of a fourth grader who *saw something and said something* … and interrupted a murder.”

    cue the jingle

  7. spsffan says:

    These kids need to be entrusted to someone slightly more of a disciplinarian of the pre-Maria Captain Von Trapp.

    The parents should be 1. castrated, 2. locked up for a good long time.

  8. sargasso_c says:

    I’ll say it again. A disenfranchised, disillusioned and sociopathic youth culture has immediate access to handguns. This is why we must invade Canada.

    • Gwad his own self says:

      First I’ll say I’m not real impressed with Generation Y or any other generation after it. GenX isn’t all that great either, other than being successfully selfish.

      However, i don’t think there are any more sociopaths nowadays than previously… they’re just a lot more conspicuous in the age of 24/7 DIY media coverage.

      Whoever said the revolution won’t be televised is a maroon.

      • deegee says:

        More Sociopaths: Percentage-wise probably not, but with the larger world population the total numbers will be higher.

  9. ECA says:

    Lets see…
    1. EX-Girl friend??
    2. 5th grade makes them??? 11?
    3. Stolen weapon?
    4. WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?? trying to find jobs?? working when SOMEONE should be near home??

    • Mr Diesel says:

      Trying to find jobs? That is hilarious. Why find a job when Obobbo gives you food stamps by the truckload along with unemployment benefits and gives out free phones, etc etc.

      • Gwad his own self says:

        I pray that God (the other one) gives you wisdom by taking away your job, your health benefits, your health, and that your children all end up in prison for crimes they didn’t commit.

        Haha I kid.

      • ECA says:

        Dear Mr. Diesel..
        from the late 80’s ON..
        companies have been reducing jobs..
        “Lets take these jobs out and see how hard we can make people work”
        “WOW, we can get 1 person working 3 jobs, and not work REALLY WELL..can we fire him also?”
        “WOW, I like this, they havent raise min wage in 10+ years, and OUR wages (up here) have gone up 10 times..MORE PROFIT”

        When you can show me HOW to keep 150,000,000 JOBS on the market..and FILL them..then you can say something.
        When you or your WIFE, sit at home cleaning and shopping for the BEST DEAL in CRAP food, Watch over the kids, TEACH the kids, keep up the bills, and STILL survive on $5 and hour?? OH YA, a few years ago it went up to $7.35?

        I WANT you to make $1400 per month, give 30% to TAXES, because the CORPS ARENT PAYING IT.. Then TRY to afford ENOUGH TIME to play BALL with your kids.

        • Mr Diesel says:

          Been there and done it, it was called serving in the military.

          • jpfitz says:

            Not everyone wants to be a trained killer, or support the killing efforts of others.

          • ECA says:

            wow, thanks..
            Did your family Live OFF the campus? In a house that rents for $600 per month?? Or was is subsidized??
            Did you wife work? she must have..

            Cost of living, family of 3-4.. generally is around $15 per hour, 40 hours per week..
            For just the Basics, with cable.
            Good luck, having anyone HOME to watch the kids, unless you are willing to let Other family take them..

          • Mr Diesel says:

            Lived in an apartment and after the major bills we lived on $20-30 per week for food and anything else.

  10. Anonymous Coward says:

    Old enough to know better. Young enough not to care.

    • pedro says:

      Great observation. One I agree with.

      The only problem nowadays is that age has become a non issue when times comes for not caring about something.

  11. UncDon says:

    I wasn’t allowed to have girlfriends at 10.

    Then again, I don’t recall any fellow 10-year-old having a girlfriend.

    • jpfitz says:

      I played Doctor with my next door neighbor, Donna. We were scolded and confused about the big deal made. If you don’t have a fear of either of your parents, whats to stop youngsters from being bad.

  12. So what says:

    “It was interrupted by the bravery of a fourth grader who saw something and said something … and interrupted a murder.”

    snitches get stitches

  13. dcphill says:

    Gee, I wonder where these kids learned that killing people is OK.
    Video games or tv shows or movies maybe?

    • pedro says:

      Hearing the president threatening the Jonas Brothers with a drone?

      • So what says:

        Justifiable, toss in beiber and I would say mandatory drone strike.

        • McCullough says:

          Hmmm, I’ll drink to that.

        • Dallas says:

          Justin Bieber is very talented and a decent person. Why would you want to kill a decent, white, teenage boy?

          • So what says:

            Talented doesn’t mean what you think it means if you consider beiber “talented”.

            It’s either that or you’re a thirteen year old girl.

          • pedro says:

            Is DUhllass, he considers flees talented.

  14. Captain Obvious says:

    When I was in Grade school, if you couldn’t dispose of a body effectively then you were taken to the Principal’s office and strapped.

  15. mal says:

    phamaceuticals to the rescue!

    swallow it!

  16. Mr Ed says:

    The NRA will probably give these kids medals.

    • pedro says:

      Boy! Your IQ is lowering towards DUhllass-like levels.

      • jpfitz says:

        You do have to hand it to these ruffians, no one was hurt while handling very deadly weapons. The safety was most likely switched on, safety conscience hoodlums. I say hand em from their feet upside down for a few hours, maybe days.

        Stop blaming and shaming anyone or thing other than the kid and their “parents”.

  17. deowll says:

    Not sure that the reaction was completely logical. The kid I took a revolver off and his buddy didn’t have to make bond but then they were 2nd graders and times were different then. They certainly did have to appear before a judge. I do know that the thinking of the students was completely delusional. Oh well in my case no one was physically injured and I think the kids got some much needed counseling.

  18. Glenn E. says:

    “What kind of culture teaches a child the best way to solve questions of love and sex – is with a gun?”

    Oh I don’t know, America’s movie and/or Tv culture? Which the kids now get 24/7 via cable, satellite, video games, and the internet. And I’m sure the education system has its favorites, for them to see. Just as we were all once forced to read The Catcher in the Rye. When I think “Mysterious Island” would have been a much better choice.

    I think I can still count on one hand’s fingers. The number of Tv shows I’ve ever saw that could be labeled as non-violent, in philosophy. If not in their blow by blow, moments. “Kung-Fu” comes first to mind. But as the martial arts it featured, was emphasized more by network execs. As a young teen, I didn’t understand its non-violence message, until I was much older.

    I understood from actor David Carradine, that the Tv execs insisted on two fight scenes per episode. And I have to believe it had nothing to do with ratings. But because this helped support the Vietnam War, at the time. Because a Tv show only about avoiding conflict, might have cooled young Americans from fighting in a foreign political war. The big three Tv networks, at that time, would have nothing to do with anything too overtly pacifist. I remember one of my favorite series very likely being censored for just that reason.

    A few others in this vane may have been “Highway to Heaven”, “Aaron’s Way”, and “Father Murphy”. But I haven’t seen most of these in syndication, to know how non-violent they actually were.

    Pacifist American movies, are an even sparser commodity. The few of those that were ever done, generally fall in the category
    of comedy or teenage angst. And mostly done around 1970. Which I guess was the one year that Hollywood allowed itself to have a conscience. The rest of the time, they pumped out pro-War movies, by the s**t load.

    So don’t ever expect seeing another “Strawberry Statement”, “R.P.M.”, “M*A*S*H”, or “Catch-22” in your lifetime. Or non-violent religious movies, not inspired by Dan Brown’s conspiracy novels.

  19. Glenn E. says:

    I’m a bit surprised that they kids weren’t labeled as “bullies” or “bullied”. Or involved in sex with a teacher. Fifth graders plotting over an ex-girlfriend? Since when do kids that young even look at the opposite sex as desirable? Makes you wonder what is sexually maturing some kids ahead of their years? Without supplying the moral code, not to act out violently, when desires aren’t fulfilled.

  20. Jerry says:

    Mass murderer Carl Panzram once said that if you don’t teach kids the right way to live and think by the age of seven, they’re lost forever.

    It’s not Hollywood, video games, etc. It’s the parents who don’t take responsibility and give direction to their kids during these crucial early years.


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