I guess that makes it OK. Nothing to see here.

It has certainly become hackneyed to call the government Orwellian, but in this case it’s unavoidable. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that he had given the “least untruthful” answer possible in March when he told a congressional hearing that the NSA does not collect information on millions of Americans, which it does, daily.

  1. Mextli says:

    Feinstein fell right into his lie. LMAO

    STEPHANOPOULOS: But that’s what I was just going to get to. Both of you know so much more than any other Americans. One of the things you heard from Senator Udall is the desire for more public information. Now, he believes that the administration hasn’t been misleading generally the committee and the public, but I want to play an exchange, it was in the Intelligence Committee in March, when James Clapper was questioned by your colleague, Senator Wyden.


    SEN. RON WYDEN, D-OREGON: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?

    JAMES CLAPPER, DNI: No, sir.

    WYDEN: It does not?

    CLAPPER: Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly.


    STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator Feinstein, I have to confess, I have a hard time squaring that answer with what we learned this week.

    FEINSTEIN: Well, I think this is very hard. There is no more direct or honest person than Jim Clapper, and I think both Mike and I know that. You can misunderstand the question. This is one of the dilemmas of talking about it. He could have thought the question had content or something, but it is true that this is a wide collection of phone records, as Mike said. No name, no content. But the number to number, the length of time, the kind of thing that’s on the telephone bill, and we have to deal with that.

    • MikeN says:

      Clapper is not allowed to reveal classified information.

      • bobbo, in Half Crouch says:

        To a greater degree, he is also not allowed to lie to Congress.

        Was he under oath??? Even though I don’t think that should matter.

        This internet webby thing is interesting. Reading various arrest reports. The charge of “lying to a Police Officer” comes up more than I had ever thought was used. Still don’t read much about people being CONVICTED of it though. Bargaining Chip?

        Too many lies damage a society. “Keeping Secrets” is probably more about lying than information collecting, trumped only by profits made in contracting with the gubment?

  2. jim g says:

    How to lie without lying:


  3. WmDE says:

    Airwaves vs Cyberspace

    Airwaves belong to everyone and no one.
    Cyberspace belongs to everyone and no one.

    Everyone has the right to listen to what is being broadcast over the airwaves. (Except for a fairly stupid, unenforceable law passed by congress regarding wireless phones during the Clinton admin.) Once you have your receiver you can tune to any frequency and listen. You want to transmit that may require additional licensing.

    Everyone has the right to cyberspace. If you want access to the internet backbone you can have it. Don’t know what the monthly bill would be. Once you have access you can “tune” to any IP address and “listen.” A bonus is you can also transmit.

    The airwaves and cyberspace overlap in wifi and wireless IP services.

    Treating cyberspace as more secure than CB radio is a mistake. No law will REALLY protect you.

  4. noname says:

    James Clapper does look allot like a white Yoda!

  5. Super! I love these delicate posts.