It reminds me of the movie “The Matrix” where you have a choice between the red pill and the blue pill. If you take the red pill you see reality as it really is. If you take the blue pill you remain in blissful ignorance.

The NSA is here to protect you. It’s a balance between liberty and safety. I want you to believe me what I tell you that we lie to you for your own protection. And even though I don’t know what is going on myself and I’m too stupid to understand it if I did I can assure you that there is congressional oversight. So take the blue pill and remain in blissful ignorance.

Thus say Nancy Pelosi – the Goddess of Blissful Ignorance.

  1. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Spying on the EU also isn’t about uncovering Terrorism…it was to gain advantage in negotiations, and no doubt blackmailable material.

    Same with spying on our congress, or every American except Mosques.

    If we were Pelosi or that Beauty Queen, there is comfort in knowing your every move is watched…but anyone with two grains of brain, who is not a terrorist, will question how relevant that is to knowing what Terrorists do.

    Progressives, statists…are consistent as government entitlement requires Government knows everything there is to know…

    That’s what Obama care is about, controlling the people…

    The exchanges are Democrat fronts, the same folks who turned the IRS against its political enemies will now rule on their health care…

    If “good” progressives don’t rise up to stop their statist overlords, the country will break up.

    • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

      ps: there is no way stomach exists to preserve the union, as in the past…factor in all the hate there is for this country…and the total lack of any willingness to self sacrifice for the greater good.

      If the states want to leave, they will be allowed to.

      The Free State of Texas or Alaska has a nice ring to it.

      No doubt “the peoples republic of California” excites many progressives. May planet friendly gruel be yours for every meal.

    • Dallas says:

      Oh please. Spying on friendly nations has taken place since the beginning of time – about when you were 5.

      Your comrade friends in the KGB, China and Cuba are having office parties with what your friend, Snowden did to his country (was his country).

      Pelosi is right. The best way to protect the sheeple is not to explain to them how the security and freedom sausage is made.

      • jpfitz says:

        The people celebrating that Snowden came forward are not limited to the “Red” countries you list. All American true patriots who believe in the constitution are celebrating Snowdens courageous whistle blowing.

        I suggest that your a traitor, Snowden may have broken a law by coming out against a confidential piece of paper he signed to not reveal his work. His belief in the constitution and rights of citizens

        • Dallas says:

          The whistle blower excuse is lame. It fails the primary test if the act was illegal.

          Hope they corner that little Teabagger and whisk him away unceremoniously to Virginia. Ideally in some incident like a commie president’s plane is escorted by F15’s and he’s cowering under the seat .

          • jpfitz says:

            I never would have taken you for a staunch tight ass anal protector of fascism. Spying on us citizens is morally and constitutionality wrong. I don’t care what document he signed. I had you pegged as a sensitive caring American, guess not. Just another jarhead with no care but for themselves. The founding fathers would be disgusted by you.

  2. bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo says:

    Thats not what she said. She has said stuff like that on other issues, but not this issue.

    In a vacuum, its hard to say the FISA court is giving any oversight when they have never refused a request…. or are they up to “one” so far?

    Hey–stop lying, conflating, and being inaccurate. There is so much to dislike about Pelosi (conflict of interest with her Husband’s no bid contracts for instance) you don’t need to go shaving the truth.

    The video the above still was taken from: ((notes below clip do not mention her ignorance or trust us attitude))

      • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo says:

        Every speaker of the House claps repeatedly when listening to the President when in her Own Party.

        Whats your point?

        • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

          You mischaracterized Marc’s use of the pic…the analogy was the Matrix…how unreal is believed real…

          The first comments under the video do indicate a lack of trust in her words:

          There you go. Pelosi is calling Snowden a criminal this can only mean one thing. He is innocent.
          · 18

          highwind8124 1 week ago

          “I understand! I understand!” (that she’s persecuting the guy who uncovered the real criminals because she’s part of that crime gang)

          I’m actually glad that these politicians are coming out and making such stupid statements. It makes them guilty by association.

          Calling Snowden a crimminal when in fact he is a hero (ala Matrix unreality) means Marc’s use of the pic was appropriate.

          Now my clap clap your hands if you’re a monkey (Listen to it again) applied to everyone in the parody…not just Pelosi, and the “glove” does indeed fit our Congress…does it not.

          But it was Dennis Miller who first linked “pop goes the weasel” with Pelosi, as she rose to applaud Obama with zeal, like the political hack she is. Dennis Miller was on Bill OReilly when he did that, perhaps there’s a video?

          • bobbo, are we Men of Science, or Devo says:

            You can’t find a tighter mutual masturbation society than Miller on OReally.

            Again… stop the mindless partisan false distinction.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            Mindless partisan false distinction….

            Just to illustrate how vapid that statement is…

            copy paste the precise wording making up my “mindless partisan false distinction” so we all know what it is.

            I don’t think its there.

            Rather, your complaint seems “mindless.”

            Prove me wrong.

          • bobbo, the iconoclastic non-conflating non-dogmatic existential Idol defiling cynosure says:

            Hey Alfie–respect noted.

            You posted a video of Nancy popping up and clapping during Obama’s speaking to Congress as if she were a mindless drone.

            The false distinction is AS I ALREADY SAID: go back to when BushtheRetard was Presnedent addressing Congress and watch the puppets jump up. No difference.

          • Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

            BUT I never made a distinction, and the video shows it applied to all of Congress…both parties…

            Yes, I applied it to Pelosi, but I didn’t thereby deny it could be applied to those clapping for Bush.

            That is a partisan distinction that doesn’t exist in my words, not even implied—-that’s known as a red herring, straw man easily defeated giving you the appearance of a victory.

            My point remains, Pelosi is especially gifted as a political hack and the observation of Dennis Millier “Pop goes the weasel” certainly applies to her.

            When I see her on video, I half expect her “Toon town Red eyes” to bulge out.

  3. Taxed Enough Already Dude says:

    Statement from Edward Snowden in Moscow

    Monday July 1, 21:40 UTC

    One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.

    On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic “wheeling and dealing” over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.

    This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.

    For decades the United States of America have been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.

    In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised – and it should be.

    I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.

    Edward Joseph Snowden

    Monday 1st July 2013

  4. noname says:

    It’s amazing what the U.S. press and ARMY tries to hide.

    “In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised – and it should be.”

    This last part is not being reported/shown on in the U.S. media!

    People should wonder why.

    • jpfitz says:

      Not to argue that the msm is spreading misinformation, CNN did report the entire statement.

  5. Tim says:

    Red pill, Blue pill — take’m both and call it a trip.

    Lordy. Will people please stop posting pictures of that withered wench with her GMO udders, without drawing in the derp-eyes?? It’s demeaning of her.

  6. Msbpodcast says:

    The NSA is there to protect the NSA, not you, not me, not the 99%ers, not even the 1%ers, not even the oligarchs.

    We have created an engine of surveilance that can not be stopped, only starved for cash and resources … eventually.

  7. Likes2LOL says:

    “If ignorance is bliss, I know too much.” – Likes2LOL 😉

  8. mojo says:

    Ignorance is Strength

  9. MikeN says:

    “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”

  10. orchidcup says:

    “We know it’s a spy center. But who are they spying on?” said Connie Robbins, an upholstery shop owner who lives in Bluffdale, a community of 8,000 some 25 miles south of Salt Lake City that is known for its rodeo and annual Old West Days.

    What we know about the NSA’s secret data data warehouse in Utah

    Taxpayers pay $40 million per month for the power bill.

    Inside the NSA’s secret Utah data center

    In April, Vanee Vines, a public information officer for the NSA, told Fox News that the Utah Data Center will be “a state-of-the-art facility designed to support the Intelligence Community’s efforts to further strengthen and protect the nation.”

    Recent images released by the Associated Press show the facility is almost complete. There’s an entrance, concrete-walled buildings, and massive power generators.

    Is the NSA planning to use the Utah facility for spying? Experts say no.

    “The National Security Agency is not spying on our U.S. citizens — and the thought is not only illegal, it’s ludicrous,” said James C. Foster, CEO and Founder of Riskive.

  11. orchidcup says:

    Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (adminstrators) too plainly proves a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing us to slavery.

    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

    — Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President

  12. orchidcup says:

    This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their Constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it.

    You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time.

    Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object.

    To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.

    — Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President

    • Gwad his own self says:

      You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time.

      Great words, although I doubt his sincerity at the time, given his penchant for suppressing the revolutionary rights he spoke of.

      I should point out that it’s never been necessary to fool all of the people all of the time, it’s sufficient merely to fool enough of the people enough of the time. Say, 51% of the people about 51% of the time.

      Actually it’s easier than that, since by “people” we actually mean “people who are paying attention to what’s going on”, which is probably really only about a third of the population. (Being generous with that.)

      • orchidcup says:

        A third of the population is an extremely generous assessment.

        I doubt that one in ten “people on the street” could quote any portion of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution:

        The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

        • orchidcup says:

          As anyone can see, there is no language in the 4th Amendment that suggests or infers that privacy should be balanced against security.

  13. orchidcup says:

    Larry Klayman’s wiretapping lawsuit: Verizon, NSA, Obama, Holder

    The suit, Klayman, et al. v. Barrack Hussein Obama II, et al., Case No. 13-cv-00851, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, was filed last Friday and became a class action suit on Monday. It seeks to represent a class of American citizens in the United States and overseas who are either current or previous Verizon customers, including, but not limited to customers between April 25, 2013 and July 19, 2013. The suit believes there are more than 100 million people in the class.

    According to the suit, the actions by the NSA, under the watch of the Obama administration, constituted an “outrageous breach of privacy,” and challenges the legality of the NSA program.

    The named defendants in the lawsuit are President Obama, US Attorney General Eric Holder, the director of the NSA, the NSA, the CEO of Verizon, the US Department of Justice, and Judge Roger Vinson of the US Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

    The suit includes Judge Vinson because he signed the order by the government which directed Verizon to turn over all phone records “on an ongoing daily basis.”

    The class is seeking a cease-and-desist order to stop the surveillance, expungement of all phone records already collected, and more disclosure about the secret surveillance programs. It also wants authorities to investigate Judge Vinson for misconduct.

    The suit is also seeking more than $3 billion in damages and attorney fees. Plaintiffs are represented by Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch Inc.

  14. orchidcup says:

    The ACLU and Yale Law School’s Media Freedom and Information Access Clinic have also recently filed a motion with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) which seeks the “release of secret court opinions that permit the government to acquire Americans’ phone records en masse.”

    The ACLU points out that the public has a right to know the supposed legal justification by which the phone records of millions of people are being spied upon, regardless of whether they as suspected of any wrongdoing or not.

    The fact that the ACLU lawsuit, and Klayman’s before it, have been filed is testament to the invaluable public service that Snowden has carried out by leaking the information about the surveillance programs.

    It has sparked a national debate about the government’s practices and the legal challenges so far are hopefully just the beginning of effort to challenge the constitutionality of what the NSA is doing.

    As Alex Abdo, a staff attorney for the ACLU’s National Security Project, argues, “the crux of the government’s justification for the program is the chilling logic that it can collect everyone’s data now and ask questions later.” However, he continues, “the Constitution does not permit the suspicionless surveillance of every person in the country.”

    Although the government is already pushing back against claims that its surveillance practices are unconstitutional, at least now it is being forced to defend them amidst greater public and legal scrutiny.

  15. Captain Obvious says:

    Who’s Nancy Pelosi again and who cares?

    • Msbpodcast says:

      Who’s Nancy Pelosy?

      She’s a 1%er who thinks she’s immune to any snooping and is all too willing to sell sell you ass to anybody who’ll put up the funds to get re-elected.

      She’s not (she doesn’t know what they’re using or why,) and she’s not getting enough for your info.

  16. Steve S says:

    Regarding the U.S. Government’s position on Snowden:
    The following quote from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome seems very appropriate:
    “You think I don’t know the law? Wasn’t it me who wrote it? And I say that this man has broken the law. Right or wrong, we had a deal. And the law says: bust a deal and face the wheel! “

    • noname says:

      Obama’s new and soon to be dystopian America; “Right or wrong, we had a deal. And the law says: bust a deal and face the wheel!”

  17. jpfitz says:

    Is it time or appropriate to now fly the stars and stripes upside down? What backlashes can I expect for flying my 25′ pole with old glory upside down.

    • McCullough says:

      My neighbor did it after the last Prez election. Most people applauded, But then, they were all for Romney. So, there’s that.

  18. orchidcup says:

    It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished.

    But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, “whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,” and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”

    — John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President

  19. Greg Allen says:

    It’s getting harder and harder to distinguish Dvorak Uncensored from Fox Nation.

    • orchidcup says:

      We have clowns in Congress, clowns in the White House, clowns in the Supreme Court, clowns in the Mass Media, clowns in the NSA, and clowns on Wall Street.

      I am ROTFLMAO.

      Welcome to the circus.

      Admission is free.

      Be thankful you will die laughing.

  20. Somebody says:

    OR our fellow Americans in California could pull their heads out of their asses before voting for a change.

  21. MikeN says:

    NSA stands for Nancy Sees All.

  22. Dallas says:

    I love her. She is funny, articulate, smart and connects with the people.

    • Tim says:

      So does SIRI, you statist freak.

    • Dummy says:

      You would.

      Mindless “believers” always flock together. That’s why there are Churches, Mosques, Temples, etc. for them to “connect” in.

      Nancy Pelosi and Shirley McLane should probably join forces. They could hold seances in the oval office (probably on our dime) and talk to other ghosts who could then dictate policy from beyond the grave!

      Remember that one? Remember when Pelosi said she felt the spirit of several womens suffrage ghosts like Susan B. Anthony when Obama called her to the White House for some real business — shortly before Pelosi started to lose her grip on power (too)? Proof positive that Pelosi is really nothing more than a complete California loon – just like most of the other fruits and nuts from her area.

      Of course you don’t remember. You CHOOSE not to! You’re choose to believe the pure bullshit that your idols tell you to believe in because you’re an IDIOT!

    • walt says:

      Dallas, you’re an IDIOT.


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