After beating Hillary in 2008 because she voted for the war, Obama is now asking Democrats to vote for a war. And he wants to strike before the UN inspectors finish their report and he has even less international support than Bush did.

  1. bobbo, we think words, and flower with ideas says:

    A most excellent exchange between Dallas and Tim above. The penultimate post where learning and shaping still has work to do:

    Dallas says:
    9/8/2013 at 2:29 pm

    Oh , I see. Your making that leap of an extension. Got it. /// I think you do. Always good to see one’s error. Reflect on it. Know how you failed to see the extension. Your armamentarium will expand, thus more powerful you will be.

    By that measure, I’m partly responsible for the chemical attacks too. I’ve long time own a stock fund with Monsanto holdings and my investment money contributed to the research that developed his. /// ….. and you take the lesson too far. You now have the “range” in front of you. Choose where to put your mark. Everything is connected to everything else, by one tangent or another, to some extent or another. See that and making your Mark is what thinking is all about. Thinking as opposed to following Dogma.

    Damn you Fidelity!! /// Simply endorse all checks with the Statement: “This investment is for aggragated ROI only and is not to be used to Directly develop Military Kinetic or Biological Weapons.” …. It won’t work, but doing what makes you feel good often has that characteristic.

    I know you know what I mean.

    …. and life is good.

    • jpfitz says:

      bobbo, why do you not discuss or banter with me anymore. Is it that one comment I made about your choosing the opposite view point that has you put off?

      I miss your arguing with me.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Nothing intentional going on…didn’t even notice. In fact, when you said wifey had the face and attitude of a wart hog, I thought we had merged into a single being.

        That said, a number of my posts that were heavy on word play and analysis (and NOT insulting in the manner that DU takes offense to) have not shown up or been retained. Maybe the Spice you are looking for was in them?

        ((Not to mislead, Wifey is a goddess I still can’t get enough of. Sad she still doesn’t get I can laugh at her being called a warthog….. but thats the way I roll.))

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          jp–sorry. I responded as if Timmaaayy had written.

          Its true, I don’t “manufacture” dispute like some troll but I don’t disagree with everything I could either. Has to be substantive, of interest, and au currrent?

          You know–disagreement is a two way street?

          But for grins, I will review in reverse chronicological order for your posts to see if I missed a quibble,…. such is your own Spice?


          Your most recent post:
          jpfitz says:
          9/8/2013 at 10:30 pm

          Wrong. Do some research. You’re a liar. /// I thought that was “overly harsh” as I do believe that Dallas posts in good faith. I also think of Monsanto as mostly in the food and crop industry so I was only reminded of what I already knew by your rebuke. Overly harsh without the evidence of Dallas’ private mind, but in a sense, both sides added up==more helpful/informative than not.

          Who am I to quibble?

          A complete dither: I knew the son of the guy that created a seed company that Monsanto bought out on its way to International hegemony. Nice guy, married a gal as inherited rich as he was. Was it cruel to make him the butt of “How do you make a million dollars?”….Answer: Inherit six million.

          I still laugh.

          • jpfitz says:

            The big M is destroying the maize crops in Mexico and sending Indian farmers to suicide because of their having to by grow cotton with big M’s seed and pesticide. Do some reading. Below is a small snippet of the problems I have with Monsanto. Dallas puts a saintly halo atop of the big M without care for the destruction caused.


          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            jp–your argument and link go to the issue of Monsanto’s stranglehold on seeds and crops. Just exactly what you called Dallas a liar for agreeing with.

            Attention Deficit Disorder….. or some other malady?

            Remember what your argument is as you wander off into the dark stroking your own hard on.

          • jpfitz says:

            My original comment to Dallas was in regards to M not doing any harm or creating any chem weapons. Agent orange, the atomic bomb and napalm were all created by the big M. That’s my problem with the dishonest comment. In other words “liar”.

            I will let you research for yourself. All of M’ business practices are abhorrent. Check out the film on YouTube about Monsanto. You will be disgusted.

          • jpfitz says:

            Monsanto is in the patent and lawsuit industry. That’s where the money is. It’s immoral patenting (nature) seeds and battling 500 farms a year. How’s that poisoned corn tasting.

            Oddly enough Jon Stewart did an excellent expose on the big M, satirically filled with truths.

            To quote you.

          • jpfitz says:

            Add that L to CRIMINA, plus a revolving door governmentally corrupt group of ABC agencies commiting crime against humanity poisoning nature with chemical weapons.

          • Tim says:

            “”Monsanto is in the patent and lawsuit industry.

            I’m afraid it’s probably much, much more sinister than that, jpfitz.

            “”On this God-forsaken island Bill Gates is investing tens of his millions along with the Rockefeller Foundation, Monsanto Corporation, Syngenta Foundation and the Government of Norway, among others, in what is called the ‘doomsday seed bank.’

            “”Today’s largest plant breeders are Monsanto, DuPont, Syngenta and Dow Chemical, the global plant-patenting GMO giants. Since early in 2007 Monsanto holds world patent rights together with the United States Government for plant so-called ‘Terminator’ or Genetic Use Restriction Technology (GURT). Terminator is an ominous technology by which a patented commercial seed commits ‘suicide’ after one harvest. Control by private seed companies is total. Such control and power over the food chain has never before in the history of mankind existed.


            They have intentianally polluted the genetics of every living thing on earth with that shit– it is spreading cross-species. They had the billion dollars to preserve what they stole from humanity, Gia, whatever; Vandalizing what they missed. They will roll them back out as ‘patented’ because they saved them.

            If we must have a global nuclear conflagration, then I pray to God that the ground zeros are every single God damned big M and affiliate piece of infrastructure on the planet.

  2. MikeN says:

    Does anyone see the irony in Mark Perkel thinking Democrats are anti-war?

    • Captain Obvious says:

      American politicians love a war. Always have, always will. That’s what happens when you have 1/2 the world’s military to play with.

      It really doesn’t matter if you D or an R in your column.

      • MikeN says:

        Yup, though Obama has made it clear in his speech. The right loves military might, while the left cares about freedom and children, and maybe they should consider that words and condemnations aren’t enough.

        • Captain Obvious says:

          Politicians say whatever they want to their base to get elected. One side is not better than the other. Bush and compassionate conservatism and family first or Obama promising to be a peacenik.

  3. MikeN says:

    So if you use chemical weapons, you will be forced to hand over whatever you have remaining.

  4. Tim says:

    Help Kickstarter WWIII {because Obama}

    “”A $25 donation will get you a piece of rubble from a war-torn middle eastern country– kissed by Lindsey Graham.

  5. LiberyLover says:

    FYI – Half of the posts have disappeared.

    I heard you were working on it so I won’t berate you about it :-)

  6. MikeN says:

    Where’s Uncle Dave to call out the bad grammar and spelling galore?

    • Tim says:

      He’s either getting on a motorcycle and joining 2 million hippies/lawyers/engineers/the muffin man,…,/IT specialists, … or he’s getting on a motorcycle and getting the fuck away from South Carolina because the scuttle-butt is that the city council has just recieved it’s order of Signature Series plutonium-cored Obama eggs and Hillary dicks for the grand opening of the Lindsey Olin Graham Bowling Institute for Underprivelaged Constituents Who Don’t Slop Hogs Very Well —

      “If you start a nuclear conflagration in your lane, you don’t get to carry over the spare!”

      After that, they can have a proper vote for war.

  7. MikeN says:

    Does anyone see the irony in John Dvorak posting that his site doesn’t do porn or nudity, but then has a post with words strippers, exposed, and undressing

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  9. bobbo, we think words, and flower with movie references says:

    Making an honest, naive, erstwhile, plangorous claim jpfitz says:
    9/8/2013 at 8:31 pm

    bobbo Iran comes into play only if obomba strikes at Syria. /// ADD again? No–Iran “is” Syria in this world of proxy stand ins.

    This is not a test. This is about resources. Killing by any means is immoral. /// Well, its the basis of family, tribe, community, Nationa State. To the degree that you are “right” you establish that morality has little relevance to real politik.

    I have read that the killing going on in Syria is done by snipers from vantage points, killing villagers as they are shopping and doing everyday chores. /// “The Killing” huh? I would think it would be more a combo plate. Bombs, Artillery, Tank, Poison Gas included? Snipers usually show up at “Peace Rallies” to disencourage such humanistic undertakings. Sure you don’t have myopic enlargement on this throw away issue?

    This has been going on for a long while, and it may be militia forces trying to destabilize the country so the police of the world has to get involved. /// So, it may be Assad or the enemies of Assad? How about unrelated forces ginning up arms sales?? World Enders stoking for the Apocalypse??? How many more unsupported theories can we shoe horn into this?……… aka……..Idyll speculation is not analysis.

    No, we should not as a nation make a military statement. /// NOT striking is also a military statement.

    I don’t know what the answer is regarding the people of Syria, but our gloves should stay off. /// How is that not your answer??? …… aka ….. suffer your tyrant like good little sheep.