It’s getting to where if you can think of a way for the NSA to snoop on you, no matter how looney it sounds, they’ve probably done it.

Buried in a Brazilian television report on Sunday was the disclosure that the NSA has impersonated Google and possibly other major internet sites in order to intercept, store, and read supposedly secure online communications.
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In what appears to be a slide taken from an NSA presentation that also contains some GCHQ slides, the agency describes “how the attack was done” on “target” Google users. According to the document, NSA employees log into an internet router—most likely one used by an internet service provider or a backbone network. (It’s not clear whether this was done with the permission or knowledge of the router’s owner.) Once logged in, the NSA redirects the “target traffic” to an “MITM,” a site that acts as a stealthy intermediary, harvesting communications before forwarding them to their intended destination.

The brilliance of an MITM attack is that it defeats encryption without actually needing to crack any code. If you visit an impostor version of your bank’s website, for example, the NSA could harvest your login and password, use that information to establish a secure connection with your real bank, and feed you the resulting account information—all without you knowing.

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  1. Tim says:

    Shun them. And then, after their kids leak who they are, piss in their food. And then, egg their car. And then write ‘adversary’ in their lawn with Monsanto FuckUp, as that is really who they work for. That, and keeping tabs on anyone who may spout off with proof of who did 911 — hint (who writes their checks?)

    • Accremonious says:

      Naw, just quadruple the cyber babbled and drown the bastards!

    • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

      Timmy–you are focused on the fact that this is a covert operation of the NSA having nothing to do with Google except they are a victim too?

      Who did 911? Could these be the same miscreants behind Anthropomorphic Global Shenanigans?….. Sure seems to fit.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        – – – – are you – – –

        geeze: you jump on the horse and blow your bugle. Word order is soooooooooo important.

      • Tim says:

        http://infowars.com/government-using-google-earth-to-loot-destitute-americans/

        “” “Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot do… [Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Google’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the shit-bag.”

        http://cryptome.org/2013/08/assange-google-nsa.htm

      • Tim says:

        Ohhh. Poor little victimized “don’t be evil” Google. Tisk, tisk. Naughty, naughty misconceptions; Poke, poke poke.

        http://endthelie.com/books-and-reading-material/google-cia-nsa-connections/

        http://prisonplanet.com/google-plans-to-kill-web-in-internet-takeover-agenda.html
        http://prisonplanet.com/group-calls-for-hearings-into-google%E2%80%99s-ties-to-cia-and-nsa.html
        http://infowars.com/government-using-google-earth-to-loot-destitute-americans/

        “” “Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot do… [Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Google’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the shit-bag.”

        http://cryptome.org/2013/08/assange-google-nsa.htm

        • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

          Without reviewing your links, everything you post could well be right ….. BUT….. this story is about NSA posing as Google to trap targeted individuals in Brazil. Why would google be involved in that particular action regardless of what else they are doing.?

          I hesitate to say: “Stop being Stupid” when you use your anti AGW position as a sword as if such stupidity were an iron clad redoubt from which to launch attacks whereas it is but a rabbits foot.

          Silly Hooman.

          • Tim says:

            Google = NSA x fuckbag^2

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            I don’t claim Math as my forte, but shouldn’t that be:

            NSA = google x fuckbag^2

            meaning in simplistic terms that I view the NSA as worse than google? Its very difficult for a private corporation to be more evil than the very same “thing” being done by the gubment.

            Course……. I do assume you aren’t simply raving. Could be a bad assumption?

          • Tim says:

            No. The equation is presented in it’s most elegant form. To see the full expanded term for *fuckbag* is more than can be covered with any meaningful comprehension by the un-initiated.

            Fuckbag = {1\douche + tuesday\((in stock on thursday)-1) + (asshat/(pi x sqrt(dickweed)) – sonofabitch/7, …. , + (sin x)/n}e^(i x pi)

            Of the more than 931 terms in the series, the only one that reduces to a constant is sin(x)/n==6 (because the n’s cancel, of course) Suffice it to say that, in most ordinary non-relativistic situations,

            Fuckbag ~ 1

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Is that true even when you square the fuckbag? I thought that negated most of the negative terms in the equation…. but I could be wrong.

          • Tim says:

            bobbo, that little squiggly is not a negative symbol but a symbol of approximation. ~~~~~

            Since Fuckbag ~1 , then Fuckbag^2 is sorta kinda mostly 1, thus it reduces to Google = mostly NSA .

          • Tim says:

            Ohh, I see what you mean. Well, just ‘negate’ them?? I don’t think so. You would evaluate the things inside the brackets anyways and then square it. if it is a number on a complex number plane and has any *i*’s then i^2 is -1; Real numbers, if negative, does loose the sign.

            Incidentally, there are “more than” 931 terms because one of those is so ludicrously stupid that computing it alters the very nature of reality itself such as changing the result of 2+2=4 to oscillate between 4 and 5.

          • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

            Tim, with your advanced math skills, can you explain why 1.99999 with 9’s to infinity = 2? No namby pamby squiggle line but actually equals.

            This could open whole new doors of perception for me. So could removing the fuckbag from my head, but that would take away your moment to shine?

          • MikeN says:

            So that’s why all the comments are disappearing from this site.

          • Tim says:

            No. I don’t think I can.

            there is this —

            “”The number you’re referring to is 1.99999….there are probably a dozen ways to prove this is equal to 2.

            We could consider the infinite series {{{sum(9*10^(-k), k = 1, infinity) = 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000}}} + …

            If you know that the sum of the terms of a convergent geometric sequence {{{ar^i}}} is {{{a/(r-1)}}} we can replace a = 9, and r = 10 to get 9/9 or 1. Finally, add 1 (since the number is 1.9999 instead of .9999) to get 2.

            Another possible way works like this:

            1/9 = .11111….
            9/9 = 9(.11111….) = .99999….

            However 9/9 = 1 so .99999…. = 1, and 1.99999…. = 2 = 2/1.

            http://algebra.com/algebra/homework/decimal-numbers/decimal-numbers.faq.question.391682.html

            ————————————————

            Naa, It didn’t really convince me either. However, if true, it tends to lend credance to the ideology that we are existing inside a computer simulation??

            “”Machine epsilon gives an upper bound on the relative error due to rounding in floating point arithmetic. This value characterizes computer arithmetic in the field of numerical analysis, and by extension in the subject of computational science.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_epsilon

          • Tim says:

            “”doors of perception

            “”If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro’ narrow chinks of his cavern.

            ― William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

            “”Price-check on VagiClean, isle 5…

            — ‘Hank’, Me, Myself, and Irene

      • a pointy eye a tit atop a pyramid says:

        testing… testing… spam warning is making no sense…

      • a pointy eye a tit atop a pyramid says:

        “”Who did 911?

        ‘What did 911’ is all I can address with foreshadowing movie references —

        The Long Kiss Goodnight
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=ntpTuOpnt70

        The Lone Gunman (Pilot episode is only one that aired)
        http://youtube.com/watch?v=9rsMG2hHsLo

        The Simpsons did it
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ifu2Uy21yU

        • a pointy eye a tit atop a pyramid says:

          blame it on other friends up north

          http://youtube.com/watch?v=xGkgpGybVck
          http://youtube.com/watch?v=BpUxN2TpBnE

        • a pointy eye a tit atop a pyramid says:

          Canadian Bacon is very funny and I (magically) can’t find the proper clip of them planning the false flag {Gulf of Tonkin is cited as example} but, as to Micheal Moore’s slim-fast silence on false flag attacks —

          In the year 1995 he filmed his movie “Canadian bacon”:

          There after the cold-war, the industrial-military sector suffers on spending cuts by the President of the United States. It is clear: America needs a war and a new enemy; during a presidential discussion the US-President makes the proposal: “International terrorisms?”. After false-flag attacks by “Canadians”, finally Canada became the new enemy, thanks to a hysteric Media-campaign. The US-people really thought, the worst about their neighbors, and were willing to go to war.

          With that background, his silence regarding 911truth and his movie “Fahrenheit 911” is rare, it is almost just a “limited hangout”.

          http://911blogger.com/news/2013-01-28/michael-moore-i-support-hope-new-investigation#comment-258579

          • a pointy eye a tit atop a pyramid says:

            canooks. — if this one makes it then that’s not the forbidden word.

  2. MikeN says:

    So that’s why all the comments are disappearing on this site.

    • Tim says:

      Could there be something between google and this site??

      That’s pretty unlikely but I’ve noticed a change in when stuff gets ‘Googleable’ —

      I went slinking around trying to find cached pages of those misplaced comments only to discover that they weren’t to be found at all; Even when including the quotes such as “where’s my fucking google fuckbag comment, dammit!”

      To test, I’ll be using that phrase to check the timeliness of their crawling and caching.

      I would not think it strange except that in the past, when I’ve googled a phrase from time to time, I’d be surprised to find it just hours later already indexed to this site and at the top of the list.

      It’s probably spam filters as Unc Dave has stated, but perhaps the frequency of the crawling has also changed as it doesn’t seem to be catching them younger than six days now.

      • Tim says:

        7. Google’s cache copy is illegal:
        Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google’s cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a “noarchive” meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don’t.

  3. AdmFubar says:

    the cloud is a trap… in more ways than one

  4. Yankinwaoz says:

    There is a FireFox plug in called Certificate Patrol that monitors the SSL certs of the sites you visit. It will alert you when a cert changes. If a MITM inserts itself in the SSL chain, this will notice and alert you. You can then examine the chain and decide if you want to proceed.

  5. Conspiracy Nut in a UFO says:

    If you think that the NSA and all their sock drawer snooping is nothing but a bunch hooey and that there’s nothing to worry about then think about this: WHO OWNS THEM?!

    Eventually, you might come to the conclusion that whoever bought your Congressman probably also owns s little control with the NSA too. So, do you think those owners might be people with money? Could those people be with the sue happy RIAA and/or MPAA and possibly be coming after you and your illegal collection of Lawrence Welk shows? Or do you think they only do that to fans of the Butthole Surfers?!

    What do you think the Wall Street / Banking owners are going to do after all this spy crap subsides? Or are you so ignorant to think that Wall Street doesn’t own Washington? (If you voted for Mayor Bloomberg then don’t be so quick to answer.)

    Now, guess who Google is playing with! Or do you need to re-read the headlines about more top level executives within Google unexpectedly leaving in order to get a hint?

    Just a little food for thought – for those of you who can think, that is.

  6. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    As I sit here peacefully sucking up beer No 4, it occurs to me several unintended consequences ultimately are going to merge. The Unintended Singularity I will now First Call —DIBS—- on.

    As the RICH have won the class war taking all reasonable jobs off shore from America leaving the middle class on its last leg of credit inflation/collapse syndrome, one must seriously consider what ultimately will the American Public be worth spying on? One dirt poor jobless jack-a-lope is pretty much like any other…. know what I mean???

    Ha, ha…… I laugh. What does Big Brother do when it has destroyed the middle class? Nobody…. I mean NOBODY….including the rich, the RICH, the gubment, and NSA and other metastasizing malignancies will have anything to do. Its like the March of Dimes: what do you do when your Disease of Choice has been conquered.

    Pros and Cons to all we do.

    Silly Malignant Gubment Programs.

    • Tim says:

      Typically, they then marry their horses, rate and trade each other’s farts, and sell each other overly priced and exquisitely ornate guilded burger scanners for that special night out slumming at the fema camps and executing proles who shit on their meat-cakes.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Tim whose every tangent is not necessarily nonsense says:
        9/13/2013 at 7:10 am

        Typically, they then marry their horses, /// that is popular among the RICH and empowered. Caligula, Queen …forget/English type, even Washington in some minor rumor

        rate and trade each other’s farts, /// well…. that is life at court….

        and sell each other overly priced and exquisitely ornate guilded burger scanners /// that is exactly how the RICH create and cream a market. See the Rockefeller creation of Fine Art Market for African Masks for such an example. It goes on more than we plebeians recognize

        for that special night out slumming /// Yes, its what armored cars and guest lists and cover fees are all about

        at the fema camps and executing proles who shit on their meat-cakes. /// I gotta admit……. you lost me there. I bow to your more intimate knowledge of shitting.

  7. Stinger says:

    Apple keeps Siri voice clips for two years. Plenty of time to voice-print and geo-locate everyone who asks for the weather report. Once Obamacare records get integrated, data aggregation and mining will reach new heights of possibilities.

    Maybe this is the Voter ID solution? You say “Hello” to the voting kiosk linked to Siri. It says, “Hello John Dvorak. … Sorry, but you’ve already voted once today. Thank you and have a nice day. By the way, it’s raining at your house.”

    Technology product privacy statements are meant to make you feel good (because the first statement always says, “we value your privacy”). Few read on to page 73, where the exceptions really kick in.

    Thanks NSA, our benevolent friend and protector.

  8. Dallas says:

    This is an outrage. I’m with Teapublicans in that we need Putin to save us from NSA.

    • MikeN says:

      He’ll get on that right after he takes the chemical weapons away from Syria. Perhaps he’ll really rub Obama’s nose in it, by bringing in rockets to send all the weapons to Chechnya.

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        MikeN appearing to rotate out of control says:
        9/13/2013 at 7:40 am

        He’ll get on that right after he takes the chemical weapons away from Syria. /// The solution on the table is that the UN will destroy the weapons. Russia has no interest in doing so. What private dog whistle are you responding to?

        Perhaps he’ll really rub Obama’s nose in it, by bringing in rockets to send all the weapons to Chechnya. /// Can you rephrase this so that is makes any f*cking sense at all?

        Poor Mickey. I “REALLY” need to reevaluate why I think you have any grounding at all in the climate science issues. Amazing how much credibility a PARROT can mimic.

        A lesson for us all.

        • MikeN says:

          Again, lacking in reading comprehension. You think destroying chemical weapons is easy? Now doing so in a war zone by the UN? Why don’t you use your vaunted google and dictionary skills and get back to us to how they would destroy the chemical weapons.

        • Dallas says:

          Good points, B.

          Mikey is angry because this outcome doesn’t appear to be a huge cluster fuck opportunity for a class A outrage.

      • Dallas says:

        Putin is playing Teatards like a fiddle. he’s only interested in keeping Assad in power. My comment above was a teatard test.

  9. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    For those who favor the Brewski over more alcoholic endeavors:

    I have long been a devotee of the BEER SLUSH. The most exquisite example of which is liquid beer in the bottle that stays liquid on opening but as you pour it into your mouth, the agitation causes the sub 32 degree liquid to crystallize on your tongue causing a most rewarding sensation.

    I’ve been doing this all morning. Figuring out where in my freezer to place room temp beer so that they reach the above OPTIMAL in regular good drinking order. In my fridge, its weird. The bottles at the top freeze before those at the bottom: just the opposite of everything I read. >>>>> BOW DOWN TO THE SCIENTIFIC PROCESS. You test and measure rather than accept old shibboleths.

    There is no better than the beer crystalizing as it hits your tongue…………WONDERFUL.

    In a very close second place however is the metal can that actually freezes the beer. It has a longer “target zone” that allows the beer to be opened and SQEEZED into the mouth. It is already frozen and slushy so you miss the transition effect, but it is still quite nice.

    Beer.

    Never had a bad one…………………. except that half drank 16 oz beer off the truck in Moscow. I actually stopped drinking it half way done. A very bad beer. Like warm budweizer it was. Could have even been re packaged?

    Ha, ha. I kid Budwiezer. Who doesn’t like horse shit in their beer?

    • LibertyLover says:

      I was ignoring your post, as usual, but during the run over I noticed the word BEER.

      Curious, I read your post.

      I have to say, we have found common ground. I, too, like the slushy beer taste/feeling and have yet to find a beer I truly don’t like (except for the ones someone put cigarette butts in). The worst I have found was “I can do without it, but hell there ain’t nothin’ else around.”

      • bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

        Cigarettes in beer: why god created mustaches.

        Thank you for your honesty LL. I don’t trust a man who doesn’t like beer. I can work with all other failures.

    • Tim says:

      “”The bottles at the top freeze before those at the bottom: just the opposite of everything I read

      I can think of two reasons that this may be the case.

      1.) You are in an accellerating frame of reference in the downward refrigerator direction causing the cooler, denser air to pool at the top — If approaching earth, that means that your downward accelleration is > 1g and I think you should flick an indicator or kick a thruster or something. If you are leaving earth, your refrigerator is upside down.

      2.) Wind chill effect. The air is much more stagnant at the bottom and the moving air is from top-down — Also, the air coming out of the vent will be very much colder than the overall temp of the freezer.

  10. bobbo, the pragmatic existential evangelical anti-theist says:

    Speaking of failures, I am the student of the idiomatic expression and this one keeps wrankling me each time I try to ignore it:

    “And in a vaguely unrelated topic…” /// No… just the opposite. The topic is vaguely RELATED.

    THINK of the kiddies trying to learn Engrish from this websink.

    Yea, verily.

  11. JimD says:

    NSA’s former Motto – Never Say Anything! – now changed to “All your Data are belong to us!” !!!

  12. Captain Obvious says:

    Good ol’ Mother Jones.

  13. Dee says:

    If we don’t believe the NSA why do we believe the Brazilian news organization? Because they had ‘slides’?

  14. Dee says:

    What if the NSA planted that story?

    • Tim says:

      I wish the fuck they would have stuck to planting bananas.

    • Dallas says:

      I’m thinking that too. An NSA planted story by Putin in cooperation with the Hillary Campaign office to further deflect attention away from Benghazi which everyone knows was planned out by the Israeli government.

      • Tim says:

        Amazing. Sir; I bow as low as I can to your incredulous stupindiousittude and lick whatever presents itself at such an awkward attitude.

        Derp.

        • Dallas says:

          Tim, ‘stupindiousittude’ is not a word.

          Admin:
          Why can’t we get some decent comment contributors in here that use real words and stick to the story?

          This made up word appears as an attack and being gay, a possible hate crime or at least, cyberbullying.

          • Tim says:

            I apologize, Dallas. I don’t hold animosity toward those with an alternative lifestyle– not even one of exaggerated Liberace-ness which I had thought to be just part of your act.

            It’s just that, with you not being very aplomb in the presentation of your sarcasm, I mistook your words for spreading another Zionist conspiracy theory and I lashed out in anger.

            As I cradled my autographed Abe Foxman portrait….. I cried.

  15. sargasso_c says:

    Huawei executives are probably laughing themselves silly, right about now.


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