monkey selfie

A monkey grabbed photographer’s camera and took selfies. Wikipedia refuses copyright take down because monkey took the photo. Does the camera owner have a copyright claim?

I will remove this pic if the MONKEY asks me to.

 

 



  1. Erik The Bruce says:

    Ha! What a great picture. Well, if the camera owner does not have a copyright on the image they should at least get a credit.

  2. normankeena says:

    co-incidence this week i find youtube vids with .. strang

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJ001L6crg

    like first time some trobee meet camera.. but really

    is it first time camera seeing person meet somthing

    • normankeena says:

      like every other kid i lki natonal geografic nude lady pics… but really ye aught ead woot persons , urbane persons say to ‘selfie’ really it is really shocking…

      my favourite is when ould white farmer wiffee get a lizard in her hair and he snap ‘photo before help her.. she like that ‘photo too in a ways.. when ye were in his hse. sorta

      • Tim says:

        Yes. But, they all looked kinda banana-shaped.

        You can’t wank too long to a banana-shaped set of knockers; You’ll get hyperkalemia.

        {
        Remember. You can’t put too much water into a nuclear reactor…

        Beautiful!!! You know? You can’t stare too long at a mushroom cloud… } — Ed Asner

    • bobbo, a new Nom de Flame: the hair on fire CACC who understands why first fermentation stops at 13%, and so will Hoomans says:

      Norman—you’ve never been to K-Mart have you?

      • normankeena says:

        neah this is a add pic.. neah never been

        • normankeena says:

          aussie abc qanda only last monday.. subject was … slave training… but abbo new aussi ‘ism is ‘they wish to be known as ‘ridganies… which is bull crap of course… the felle east Arnhemland want sell frac licence. West arnhemland not want felle sell out.

          I am aware of names, indian tribal persons, and canadian english words and other staanard words for indigenous persons’ perceived lingo for homies

          darn, nearly catch myself falling for US media mediation..

          like a monkey

          • normankeena says:

            babooon, urangotang, whatever

          • normankeena says:

            terra nule nulabore plain anon 1980s bitchman roads and double parabole antenne 40ks apart.. like sea captians buoy.. ships in the night..

            parisian algerian left a letter in french at roadhouse woot was the name… belle’ donne… afghani camel driver yrs before up from coast swore she speak four lingo… i saw were she bury her mum and dad on the farm… din’t see hers

          • Tim says:

            “”terra nule nulabore plain anon 1980s bitchman roads and double parabole antenne 40ks apart.. like sea captians buoy.. ships in the night..

            *like* beacons but on the land??

            *double parabole* microwave relay towers?

            Like This {Lord of Rings lighting of beacons}?
            https://youtube.com/watch?v=i6LGJ7evrAg

  3. bobbo, a new Nom de Flame: the hair on fire CACC who understands why first fermentation stops at 13%, and so will Hoomans says:

    Ha, ha. “The law rides an ass.”

    Kinda brings the homily home. I could see the law (of copywrite) actually being just that. Common sense would speak to the owner of the camera….. the first hooman involved.

    What about those pictures taken from a launched balloon? I guess the “c” owner set the timing mechanism?

    Its the details………where the law lurks.

  4. normankeena says:

    he was abbo, no i said that wrong, she was 1/4 abbo he was from youcoslave.. dad came out there i n 1930s.. he got the land in his name… he was a good christian lady… said that wrong agian

    they both made state pention in 1980s early.. i lived on the farm then.. well the mining co. paid us to pay them to be there.. the canadian couple in town were busy putting each in the dog hse… well she was a white sheelia.. and he canadian fukk every thing move..

    but on the farm, they had keep pigs and feed them kangaroo until they eat the dog… it was fun visiting the bush… neve wat to live ther

    She said the priests told her ‘god’ was and woot did i think of that.

    • bobbo, a new Nom de Flame: the hair on fire CACC who understands why first fermentation stops at 13%, and so will Hoomans says:

      Now…. GD it Norman===this thread has nothing to do with abbo’s.

      ………and you know that too.

      • normankeena says:

        opps.. sorry.. me auld folks ‘photon maybe around aboutz puzzling persons

        • normankeena says:

          okey .. couple of mates from newzealand put a dog throught uni it nearly got a degree.. three years… they took turns writing essay… it would have garuated

          • normankeena says:

            as a geologist

          • Tim says:

            don’t you mean *archeologist*?? Dogs are pretty good at digging up bones, exhuming things that’s better left alone. Granite? Not so much.

          • bobbo, a new Nom de Flame: the hair on fire CACC who understands why first fermentation stops at 13%, and so will Hoomans says:

            Ha, ha.

            Timmy said “bone.”

            Just turn Norman over when you’re done. Pedro will come by later.

          • Johnny says:

            Hey Norman… care to share what kind of stuff you smoke? That stuff must be awesome.

          • jpfitz says:

            Johnny, Obviously English is not norman’s native language. I give norman credit for trying.

            Keep working at your English, norman, you’re getting better, I can understand most of your comments now.

          • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with Ideas says:

            jp–I could be wrong, but my money goes to Norman is more eloquent than any of us here in his choice of at least 3 languages.

            …..His mind is also a swiss cheese of missed connections which probably is only a “tendency” that he allows full reign.

            Or not.

            Who can tell….. and what difference does would it make anyway. What we post, is what we post.

          • Tim says:

            Welcome to DU, Johnny. As you have the rare ‘pic’ for an avatar, I don’t think I’ve seen you comment before — i’m probably mistaken. Perhaps, you’re a really dedicated lurker that just needed to chime in on the otherwise long-accepted, typical musings of norman?

            From what I can tell from that tiny pic, you look like a ‘john’ I’ve known in the past. I was quite fond of him, though he was a crack dealer then — That can’t be you as most crack dealers commenting on DU would get their purse stolen the first time they visited Yuma {not because of any special knowledge of pi, or anything}.

    • Tim says:

      The Last Wave {fucking abbos}
      https://youtube.com/watch?v=VUaFZUumItg

  5. Dronie says:

    selfies are so 2013

    • bobbo, a new Nom de Flame: the hair on fire CACC who understands why first fermentation stops at 13%, and so will Hoomans says:

      Four Tits: shirley you are wrong?

      Its like you are noting some leveling off of the hooman infantile need to say: “Look at Meeeeeee…… (gasp) …..eeeeeee”

      You are looking at Me…. right?

  6. pedro says:

    What is this monkey business about some picture you’re talking about?

    • Tim says:

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  7. Cap n Spaulding says:

    “I told you a long time ago you little fucking monkey not to fuck me!”
    – Alejandro Sosa, Scarface

  8. John Ullman says:

    If the camera owner gave the monkey a banana, it might be considered a work for hire. Then the camera owner could claim copyright. If the monkey was collaborating with the camera owner, then the monkey should get a percentage of the profits from the work. In either case there should be a written contract, so which the camera owner could enter in to with the monkey’s guardian, a zoo, perhaps? Or the government of the country the monkey resides in. All this is very simple, really. Perhaps the monkey needs an agent? Lassie, Rin Tin Tin, and Bonzo all had agents.

  9. jpfitz says:

    Monkey see monkey do. Putin takes Crimea and pushing into Ukraine. Obama now this minute just announced bombing ISIL supply chain. Here we go again, creating even more suicide bombers. It’s not our fight, but the oil is so tasty.

    • Tom says:

      Only a DU reader could turn a monkey photo copyright story in to a diatribe on Putin and Crimea… The IQ here continues to drop…

      • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with Ideas says:

        You don’t think “Monkey see, Monkey do.” is a hard enough connection huh?

        Everything is connected to everything else…… only a matter of degree.

        Closer than abbo’s?

        • jpfitz says:

          Who’s abbo bobbo, I understood most of normans post but not abbo. Wait, is abbo the aboriginal from Australia?

          Tom maybe a douche I know, any comment I make he considers himself so superior he can’t help himself. Actually he’s so far to the right he held and waved pom poms while Bush was bombing Iraq in 2003. I hope I’m wrong about who this “Tom” is. If I’m right, Cupo go play elsewhere. If not, oh well, he’s still not added to the discussion.

          • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with Ideas says:

            jp–you have abbo quite correct.

            But Bush wrong. In context: Tom is so far right he is waving pom poms as Putin goes into Ukraine. Its only when the smoke settles there is a chance he goes: “Whaaaa…..?” (Oops…right action, wrong team.)

            The majority of Americans supported BushtheRetards invasion of Iraq. Most Russians support Putin.

            Sad proof most people are stupid.

      • jpfitz says:

        Cupo, take a long walk of a short pier. You, complaining about anthers comment? Ha Ha Ha. IQ is relative to information input and output on a test.
        I don’t think you’re IQ is very high, what’s a diatribe? Obviously you don’t know.

        Diatribe: a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something.

        I attacked who? And what’s bitter in my statement about real news? Actually your not so intelligent words were more of a diatribe compared to what I wrote. Tommmy boy.

      • jpfitz says:

        Only Tommmy would think a photo of a monkey is really more important than news of two F/A-18’s dropping 500lb bombs on Sunni’s operation in their own country. Sunni right or wrong have a legitimate stake in Iraq.

        Oh, wait we brought democracy to Iraq, what a joke. Maybe we can re-rubblize Iraq so Halliburton can come back in and make more money.

    • NotSA says:

      https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bella,_%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B7%D0%B5_%D0%B8%D0%B7_Whipsnade_Zoo_%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC._10th_August_1933.jpg
      This work is in the public domain in the European Union and non-EU countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 70 years or less.

      Dialog-warning.svg You must also include a United States public domain tag to indicate why this work is in the public domain in the United States. Note that a few countries have copyright terms longer than 70 years: Mexico has 100 years, Colombia has 80 years, and Guatemala and Samoa have 75 years. This image may not be in the public domain in these countries, which moreover do not implement the rule of the shorter term. Côte d’Ivoire has a general copyright term of 99 years and Honduras has 75 years, but they do implement the rule of the shorter term. Copyright may extend on works created by French who died for France in World War II (more information), Russians who served in the Eastern Front of World War II (known as the Great Patriotic War in Russia) and posthumously rehabilitated Russians (more information).

      • normankeena says:

        dryfos.. ahh wot do i know… Dreyfus affair

        so say bern 1890s patent frac. and ‘coch bro’

        and orwell say 70yrs

        and woot so

        • NotSA says:

          en.thinkexist.com/quotation/if_you_shut…truth…/260787.html
          Emile Zola If you shut up truth and bury it under the ground, it will but grow, and gather to itself such explosive power that the day it bursts through it will blow up …”Magnolia: You’re acting like a great big nutty banana.
          George: George still same George. (a leaf falls on his head) Get it off! Get it off! (runs away screaming)
          http://tv.com/shows/george-of-the-jungle/a-boy-and-his-elephant-georges-security-stone-1161522/
          When da army makes a mistake it sure makes a big mistake. Never a shot in anger.

          Zola said, “The truth is on the march, and nothing shall stop it.

          • NotSA says:

            “Ah, what a cesspool of folly and foolishness, what preposterous fantasies, what corrupt police tactics, what inquisitorial, tyrannical practices! What petty whims of a few higher-ups trampling the nation under their boots, ramming back down their throats the people’s cries for truth and justice, with the travesty of state security as a pretext.”
            https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/%C3%89mile_Zola
            The battle is won before it is fought. With bad intelligence it is lost before it is fought. Lessons in Iraq.

  10. MikeN says:

    So wikipedia doesn’t want to take down the picture and is enganged in excuse hunting.

  11. NotSA says:

    Monkeytasking https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monkey-typing.jpg
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mikehittingabong.jpeg
    English: This is not actually Mike, but a monkey trying to smoke out of a bong. It is an excellent interpretation of Mike. (Note: the monkey appears to be so confused that it can not even smoke the marijuanna in the bong)
    Multitasking: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Consul-II-the-chimp.jpg

    • normankeena says:

      she called her cat music… i din’t get it, she had not chatt

  12. NotSA says:

    The Noble Savage vs. Civilized Man
    Primitive man lived an idyllic existence, in harmony with nature and his fellows. The advance of civilization exacted a price: as the old ways were replaced by the new, tribal man forgot his ancient natural wisdom.

    Among the tribal traditions often displaced by the encroachment of modern society were:

    slavery
    subjugation of women
    fishing by poisoning rivers
    human sacrifice
    continuous intertribal warfare
    hunting by driving herds off cliffs
    ritual mutilation
    xenophobia
    abandonment of the old & dying
    abandonment of the young
    cannibalism

    Despite these losses, civilization brought many benefits. Among them were:

    slavery
    subjugation of women
    air, water & soil polution
    organized crime
    continuous international warfare
    organized religion
    fast food
    traffic
    street mimes
    public schools
    e-mail
    http://besse.at/sms/descent.html
    Copyright is up there with public schools, e-mail and street mimes.

    • normankeena says:

      50.000 yr ago i said to you.. ‘bull crap’ now pic that berry again, i know and you know it goat shyte… wisdumb

      • Tim says:

        5 hrs ago, this kid comes home from sunday school… “hey kid, want to try a smart pill? — look over there by the rabbit cage.

        “”This tastes like shit.

        “”see? you’re gettn’ smarter already.

  13. FU2 says:

    FUCK MICROSOFT, APPLE AND THE RIAA/MPAA!

    You want to know why copyright laws are all fucked up? THAT’S WHY!

    … We’ll just not pay too much attention to whoever owned the CAMERA or who paid for the film or data card. Seems it’s OK to drive other people’s cars or live in their homes without permission too — so long as it’s a statement of copyrightable ART and no damage is done.

    • normankeena says:

      japan film, and after saying, couple live in various home in greater tokio area.. and filim is about how no body on st. and no family know. it not even squatting. .. it is wonderful how cobble stoned ppls are so … so insulated

      • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with Ideas says:

        Hey Norm —- given that FU has the issue totally backwards, your comment for once is right on….. in a backwards kind of way.

        I think I saw the film you are referencing. Weirdly…I thought of you when I first saw it…. years ago.

        How did that happen?

    • Gene Simmons says:

      i’m a tool

  14. smooth the image until it looks like creamy shit says:

    if you scroll up and down on the monkey pic then it looks like he’s making goo goo eyes at you.

    {may have to change vertical sync/antialiasing options…YMMV}

  15. jpfitz says:

    This whole discussion is a joke, right. Compared to the math video posted, this is seriously just funny. Arguing who has copyrights.

    Pedro said it best.

    The photographer has rights, it’s his camera. What’s the discussion. Wikipedia, take down the pics. Stupid fodder to distract the shitizens.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=YaAxzIFgNso

    • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with Ideas says:

      Why does anyone have any rights at all?

      What is a right?

      This is heavy stuff…… like Norman said ….. like living underground and coming up into the darkness of night….

      BWHAHAHAHAHAH!

      Monkeys……. talk. I do mean this in the most positive affirmation of life I can make. Anyone have a banana?

      • Hyperkalemia says:

        i’ve got bunches of them…

        • bobbo, we think with words, and flower with Ideas says:

          If only NFS could understand what you just said.

          Heh, heh.

          Keep it up Four Tits…..I’m sure one of them works.

        • jpfitz says:

          PUTIN! Take down that laser show.

          Too much k for one man to take.

          • NotSA says:

            Ne me regardez plus comme ça, parce que vous allez vous user les yeux.

        • Tim says:

          “”Don’t go on staring at me like that, because you’ll wear your eyes out.

          Exactly. You nasty, nepharious, cherub-of-charon little spam-splunger.

          Go fuck an RSS feed, already.

  16. Chris Mac says:

    It’s finally April first forever

  17. NotSA says:

    “The formula for hush-a-boom is H2O, NH3, C2H5, PDQU235 and a pinch of salt. In lay terms, this is water, ammonia, ethel acetoacetate, salt, and a ficticious chemical frequently casually referred to as “pretty darn quick.””

    “Boris: Hey, you want to sell us this fruit cart?
    Proprietor: Sure, that will cost you $50,000.
    Boris: $50,000? You out of your mind?
    Proprietor: You gotta no choice. You gotta buy it.
    Natasha: We do?
    Proprietor: You in bad trouble. You stole the formula from-a Professor [Bermuda] Schwartz, and now you gotta hide from-a the moose and-a the squirrel.
    Boris: Hey, how come you know all this?
    Proprietor: What? You think I don’t watch The Bullwinkle Show?”

    “Rocky and Bullwinkle approach Boris claiming to have a camera hidden in a lollipop – a “candied camera.” So Boris must be Alan Fink. This is an allusion to the popular reality show of the time, Candid Camera, hosted by Alan Funt.”

    “When Bullwinkle wanted to buy a banana, he said “We have no bananas today.” This is a line from a Jimmy Durante song, Yes We Have No Bananas.”

    http://tv.com/shows/the-rocky-and-bullwinkle-show/banana-formula-198075/

    We have a barrel of monkey business. Monkey business intel-Just $120! Dats CHEAP!

  18. NotSA says:

    “The Bumbling Bros. Circus comes to Frostbite Falls, and Rocky and Bullwinkle are introduced to the brothers Hugo and Igo Bumbling. Our heroes are almost attacked by a lion, until Bullwinkle plays a song on his comb that quells the beast. The lion tamer (aka Boris Badenov in disguise) is promptly fired. Boris also attempts to burn down the circus tent, but is foiled in his attempt.

    Rocky and Bullwinkle join up with the circus, but soon the circus is set upon by a rainstorm that follows them wherever they go. Rocky investigates, and finds a group of Indians being led by Boris (unknown to Rocky, of course). Eventually, the Indians make peace with the Bumbling Bros, and normalcy returns, until the brothers find that their elephants are losing weight at a rapid pace. It is soon found out that Boris has disguised himself as a little boy, and is feeding the elephants weight-loss pills. This is eventually stopped, but not before Boris and Natasha Fatale disguise themselves as a lion, intending to kill Bullwinkle with poison-tipped teeth in the lion. The two end up donating the disguised lion to a zoo, and then returning home with the Bumbling Bros continuing their famous circus elsewhere.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumbling_Brothers_Circus

    Why are the elephants dropping weight? Blame the monkey! Donate to the zoo. If you got a band I got a comb.

  19. NotSA says:

    Lazy Jay Ranch
    For $28 Bullwinkle buys a Western ranch, then discovers its livestock is worms. Things look bad, unless Rocky and Boris can drive the worm herd.

    You can get a rattlesnake ranch for $120. Call Boris!

  20. NotSA says:

    “Kirward Derby, Legal Smeagle
    In the Missouri Mish Mash story line, everyone is searching for The Kirward Derby. This is a hat that supposedly make the wearer extremely smart, but is later reveled to make you stunningly stupid. The name Kirward Derby is really a pun of Durward Kirby, the co-host of “Candid Camera” from 1961-1966. Mr. Kirby tried to sued Jay Ward Inc. for the parody of his name. In reply Ward said, ” Please sue us, we love the publicity.” The legality of the case was not strong enough and Durward Kirby dropped it. Durward Kirby passed away in March of 2000.

    Buur…Is the Cold War Over Yet?
    Boris and Natasha were in the series as a parody of the cold war, which was already 30 years old by the time ‘Rocky’ went on the air. When Russia and the United States were in conflict, it was always a worry that Russian spies were invading America to steal secrets. These types of characters were often present in the older James Bond movies as villains.” http://bullwinkle.toonzone.net/secrets.htm

    FBI bust! https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kWk_xtQFOs8/mqdefault.jpg

  21. Chris Mac says:

    bullwinkle will nwvwe own a ranch
    never
    yommma

    that’s my new password. try it out

  22. More fun than a barrel of photographers.

  23. NotSA says:

    “This is a court of law, young man, not a court of justice.” O.W. Holmes

    The law may stand for it, justice won’t permit it.

    “Sin ought to be something exquisite, my dear boy.”
    ― Émile Zola

    On the heels of a nasty divorce, a dog trainer is blamed for her ex-husband’s messy death. Evidence suggests that she programmed their shared guard dog to attack the prominent diet doctor, but did she? As the accused is being led off to jail, she begs her friend Ginger Barnes to save the German shepherd’s life, an assignment that demands nothing less than the whole truth.
    https://goodreads.com/book/show/15867712-no-bones-about-it

    My client is innocent your Honor!

  24. NotSA says:

    “Lauren Beck’s friends, phone, home, credit and credibility are all gone, severed with surgical precision by an enemy intent on framing her for murder. Is it one of the insureds she was hired to investigate? The fellow employee she upstaged? Does the daughter of her landlady and dear friend, Corinne Wilder, hate her even more than she thought?
    Whoever targeted her should beware. An ex-cop who survived cancer knows how to fight for her life.”
    http://amazon.com/CURED-Donna-Huston-Murray/dp/0985688041/ref=sr_1_4_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349214136&sr=1-4&keywords=cured
    You are not your home, your credit or your phone. You are framed? Being insured didn’t help. Bet he’d do a selfie if you gave hime a .45 too.

  25. mojo says:

    Nope, it’s that rara avis, the un-assignable copyright. The guy doesn’t own it, and the monkey can’t.

  26. We're Dying Out Here says:

    Enough of the freaking monkey.

    Is there nothing else to discuss on DU?