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Like Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy, Jerry Seinfeld avoids doing shows on college campuses. And while talking with ESPN’s Colin Cowherd on Thursday, the comedian revealed why: College kids today are too politically correct. “I hear that all the time,” Seinfeld said on The Herd with Colin Cowherd. “I don’t play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, ‘Don’t go near colleges. They’re so PC.’”

ea72de572f4deefdfe4f3ee33b639a36Seinfeld says teens and college-aged kids don’t understand what it means to throw around certain politically-correct terms. “They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice,’” he said. “They don’t know what the f­—k they’re talking about.” The funnyman went on to recount a conversation he and his wife had with their 14-year-old daughter, which he believes proved his point.

“My wife says to her, ‘Well, you know, in the next couple years, I think maybe you’re going to want to be hanging around the city more on the weekends, so you can see boys,’” Seinfeld recalled. “You know what my daughter says? She says, ‘That’s sexist.’”

Comedian and actor Chris Rock told New York magazine he stopped playing colleges because they’ve gotten “way too conservative.”

Writer Frank Rich asked Rock about some of his recent, controversial jokes about the Boston Marathon, 9/11 and the World Trade Center, and whether the backlash could hurt his career. Diving deeper, Rich asked Rock about his thoughts on students’ attempt to block Bill Maher from speaking on campus due to his comments on HBO about Muslims. That’s when Rock said college campuses in America were too conservative, though, not necessarily in a political way:

“Not in their political views — not like they’re voting Republican — but in their social views and their willingness not to offend anybody. Kids raised on a culture of “We’re not going to keep score in the game because we don’t want anybody to lose.” Or just ignoring race to a fault. You can’t say “the black kid over there.” No, it’s “the guy with the red shoes.” You can’t even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive.”

I’d bet even George Carlin couldn’t get a laugh out of this bunch.



  1. Mc Ninny says:

    I’m not as think as you thought I am.

    • MikeN says:

      Tell a joke to a liberal. Between your punchline and his laughter, there is a Progressive Comedy Pause. In this second or two, the liberal will process the joke to make sure he is allowed to laugh.

      Jon Gabriel

      • bobbo, in point of fact says:

        So Mickey===just how big a dumbass political hack do you think Jon Gabriel is?

        You know…. politicizing “everything”….except actual politics.

        Ha, ha.

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Reaction to the line from the roast of Justin Bieber about Shaq throwing barrels at Mario.

      • NewFormatSux says:

        Liberals decide that comedy should be preapproved to avoid giving offense.

        https://ricochet.com/archives/creating-oneness-progressive-comedy/

        • NewFormatSux says:

          I wonder if they think it’s OK to laugh at the Spokane NAACP President who was actually white and pretended to be a black woman getting hate mail.

          • bobbo, in point of fact says:

            Laugh? Sure.

            Now…………what do you think? What do you Say. What do you DO?????

            See the difference?

  2. spsffan says:

    Bunch? What do you mean “bunch”? That’s groupist!

  3. MikeN says:

    Review of Mary Katherine Ham’s book on the subject.

    http://bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-09/how-outrage-became-a-growth-industry

  4. Storm the Castle says:

    George Orwell said political language “is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_the_English_Language

    Unchallenged political correctness, loaded language, and euphemisms are major impediments to understanding and compromise.

    Spewing this language at Internet speed inflames and provokes the masses.

  5. PC Reboot says:

    What happens when robots are over exposed to politically correct language:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=7A_QPGcjrh0

    • jpfitz says:

      Oh, PLEase. Very expensive time consuming projects for DARPA robots. A noble endeavor in today’s tech world. Even If these same experimental robots may be used as future police.

      http://wsj.com/video/robots-compete-in-2015-darpa-robotics-challenge/A0B2DF40-D923-471C-B679-06E5FD6F8264.html

      • Everyone get from street says:

        Noble endeavor until they break the 3 laws:

        1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

        2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

        3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

        I’m sure the government will make sure this never happens, right?

        Yeah, right lol.

        • jpfitz says:

          Yeah right, exactly. The ethics or three rules will be subject to override by gov’t and large corps. If you are bad the robot will find and incapacitate you.

          The young of today will think this is all well and good.

  6. jpfitz says:

    Back in my day I saw comedians at college campuses, Robert Klein at Stony Brook University around 1980 for one and many concerts.

    The young today have been sensitized by programs like “Friends” and “Will and Grace”, you get the idea.

    Carlin on Soft Language, man, do I miss George.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=h67k9eEw9AY

    • ± says:

      Yikes! And awesome. Carlin wouldn’t work on today’s college campus.

  7. bobbo, in point of fact says:

    As with so many issues, I don’t get it.

    Seems to me that if, or to the degree, that college audiences are PC to a fault, that THAT would be the very point of a comedy routine. Seinfelds humor strikes me as so very mundane and observational, I don’t know why he would have a problem with stereotypes and college crowds.

    Carlin could have given a goof riff on the DIFFERENCE between being sexist and being sexual.

    I agree with whomever above said the “comedians” are just looking for an easy/stock routine.

    Maybe some parenting classes are in order for Seinfeld?…. as in… you know the teen years. Humorless know nothings who are convinced they know everything already.

    ……………aka………..easy to make fun of.

    Sam Kinnison, not Seinfeld, is what the kiddies need. Taking pleasure at outraging the congregation. Its a different gig.

    • MikeN says:

      Observing reality is not acceptable under college speech codes.

      Instead, it has to be things like,’He is the first African-American, from any country, to win a gold medal in …’

      Nick DiPaulo would get them good.

    • jpfitz says:

      I never thought Seinfeld was an accomplished stand up comic. I believe Jerry is afraid of being heckled, a wuss, no matter how successful he is now and back during The Seinfeld Show.

  8. MikeN says:

    Meanwhile, the State Department is declaring that it must preapprove speech on the internet. Information that is in the public domain is acceptable and need not be preapproved. However, the government defines ‘in the public domain’ as that which the government has specifically declared to be in the public domain.

    This is the proposed new State Department regulation that they will institute, hopefully before a court can rule against them in a lawsuit where they tried to shut down someone’s speech.

    • jpfitz says:

      Proposed…not! Already in practice. Read below, the Orwellian future is in place. And don’t tell me/us that it’s a D or R blame game to conflate the issue.

  9. jpfitz says:

    Today, in this age of PC and reasoning of what is legal and or funny, or even an angry expression of opinion has the Justice Dept pissed off. f’in hell.

    http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-government-wants-names-of-online-commenters-who-trashed-the-silk-road-judge

  10. The Old Man is snoring says:

    This is absolutely INSANE! And I seriously doubt Mr. Seinfeld (who I really like) has even been to a college campus even in passing. Because if he had, he just might have heard this new word they fling around almost haphazardly — nigga! As if we can’t read between the lines between the words funk and fuck either.

    So when I hear crap about today’s youth being too conservative or too “PC,” about all I can say is, please! I might agree that kids these days are a bit TOO STUPID, but hardly conservative or politically correct. That’s like saying the KKK of the 1920’s was just one big social club (which it partly was)!

  11. The Old Man is snoring says:

    I feel sorry for today’s youth. They seem to have missed out on one of mankind’s greatest child rearing methods — spanking! And the reason they’ve probably never been spanked, other than having been raised in “single parent” fatherless homes, is probably due to an over reaction of pedophile fetishes. (Yes, that’s a reference to another joker, Louis C.K., in case you missed that “news story” too.)

  12. bobbo, in point of fact says:

    Just watching Democracy Now about the Canadian program to apologize for “cultural genocide” in trying to fully assimilate native peoples into their culture.

    I have a primary rule I try to accept: even if not true (sic–to deal with disagreeable philosophies) it is best to think of all humanoids as “the same” (sic–yet different at the same time. Yes, its layered.)

    What is cultural, or racial, or even personal IDENTITY? Whatever else it is, its a made up concept …. aka… a social construct. It exists: BECAUSE we believe it. Thats it.

    So……….I guess the Canadians are going to give Native Decendents their cultural heritage and then 50 years wonder why the same segment of self identified individuals living on preservations aren’t doing well in society?……… Is that the play Bunky?

    Well…….call me a racist……but I think all people are the same….and should be treated the same. No “tribes” allowed….YOU may identify yourself as “whatever” and associate with like minded hoomans….but society should treat us all the same: No Reservations. No special programs. Your language can’t exist without a special program?===>Then by definition, its not needed.

    Ha, ha. This is all intro to the fact that “people” believe======>what they are told. Its how our species operates. So, if Jerry’s daughter is calling his speech and ideas “racist” its because THAT is what she is being taught. Not in college–but in pre-14 year old schools.

    Hard to blame the kiddies. “realpolitik” is a reality that most adults can’t accept. Its all definitional===thats what a social construct is afterall. If the majority think it is sexist for the sexes to move to areas of maximum contact with the other sex………….then……..it is.

    ………….and pretty much…….. everything else stays the same. Reality doesn’t change… just the social constructs around it.

    Fun to think about. A source for some great comedy…. as all sacred cow beliefs/social constructs…. are.

    Love my DishTV programming. New show I’m watching is on Russian TV: Kaiser Report. Each show is: the same. Capitalism is evil and another manufactured housing bubble created by insider elites is just about to crash. Its not funny though…….the search for good tv continues. Shark Tank only getting better all the time. “Why are you bringing this deal to the sharks?” I want more back scenes/followups. Many “investments” are really a “brokers fee” to get a product into Home Shopping or Walmarts.

    Its only business…………Meet the new boss.

  13. jpfitz says:

    McCullough…you did delete a comment of by me, right?

    And if then, this blog is “PC”. I thought I made a mistake when submitting. I guess the reason is due to language guidelines set years ago.

    But, I remember a rant here with that word clearly spelled out. I wouldn’t spell the word then or now. The sparks flew calling me a wuss for being sensitive. I’m exaggerating a bit about the sparks.

    Carlin on language…let see if this comment stays.
    https://youtu.be/vbZhpf3sQxQ?t=4m6s

    • bobbo, in point of fact says:

      My comments are more likely lost “recently” compared to the previous years…. without comment or explanation.

      One of my favorite atheist blogs has a “censored” thread where all such inappropriate comments are reviewed by the participants until impasse is reached. I’d say about 30% are taken back by the editors.

      Who knew anyone is capable of learning/changing their minds/seeing a new slant on an old issue?

      Yes.

      • jpfitz says:

        Old issues die hard, but…the new PC issues are now forced upon society, not slowly manifesting naturally as in the past.

        Of course I’m bringing up Caitlyn or Bruce. I am very confused and shocked by the shift in the liberal MSM accepting hook line and sinker that he is a she with a penis. WTH. I consider myself open to lifestyles different than the “norm” but but but. I am at a loss for words with this shift in society. The whole pronoun brain freeze is annoying. I say good for him/her, if Bruce is now happy who am I to judge. Though the public spectacle is NOT okey dokey. Aah, it’s late on the east coast and me head hurts from some sun today and this Jenner thingy.

        Do I sound not PC?
        Tomorrow, or should I say latter….

        • bobbo, in point of fact says:

          jp—as usual, you crack me up. I can’t tell what has your motor running. The he/she quagmire or some more vague and extenuated (and UNDEFINED) issue with the media/society/liberals?

          I think this should solve any and all dilemas:

          FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM: is leaving other people the f*ck alone. You are either “for” freedom, or a fascist pig of one sort or another.

          Hope that helps and that all else goes well for you.

          • jpfitz says:

            Thanks bobbo, FREEDOM…is the answer as YOU stated. A medium sized epiphany, from your words, helped me to see clearer.

            I have no problem with the gold medalist morphing into whatever makes him/her happy, live and let live as long as no harm is created as you posited.

            I think the media is what had my motor revving as you mentioned. I’ll stay away from TMZ from now on.

            Freedom, sung forty years later.

            https://youtube.com/watch?v=UQGFmEbuJOY

          • ± says:

            Freedom is the foundation upon what-is-the-most-good-for-the-most-people stands. However, the moment some group exercising their “freedom” impinges on the better good of the majority, the right to that “freedom” ceases to exist.

          • bobbo, in point of fact says:

            jp—I was hoping for, but only half expecting===>Richie Havens.

            We are so on the same track.

            Yes, FREEEEEEEDOM solves a lot of the worlds issues………….its why we have so many issues?

            The MEDIA: greatly appeals to those who are against freedom. It appeals to and energizes mob activity. Mob Activity: doing things to other people.

            So==P/M==many notions “sound good” when given a general statement. MY UNDERSTANDING of FREEEEEEEEDOM as defined is that one freedom will not impinge on another freedom in a minority/majority dynamic as you posit. Freedoms do have to be balanced against one another but that is just what it is: A BALANCE. Not an either/or as you suggest.

            can you give an alternative explanation or an example of what concerns you? I guess you really aren’t talking about a contest of freedoms, but rather a contest of fascist impulses….. but I could be wrong.

          • ± says:

            [salient quote excerpted below]
            “….. but I could be wrong.”

            Imagine for a moment Saudi Arabia without oil. This would make Saudi Arabia equal to or less free then any shit hole African country you never heard of because it doesn’t have oil or anything else the civilized world is interested in.

            This (hypothetical) Saudi Arabia should be totally free to treat women as chattel or worse, hack off portions of the female body at birth, chop off hands of thieves, stone people to death for perceived infractions etc. It’s all good. They would be free to rise from their own cesspit or not. They could be doing all this stuff in 2415, who cares as long as they stay in their own little cesspit? It’s all up to them since they don’t affect the majority which is the rest of us. Get it? FREEEEEEEEEEDOM.

            But, let’s just say, for example, that they wanted to impose their way of life on everyone else (the majority). These people (the majority) could and should impose with extreme prejudice, their will to have things remain the way they want them to be. Get it?
            FREEEEEEEEEEDOM.

          • bobbo, in point of fact says:

            PM==you don’t even understand your own supposition.

            “prove me wrong” and state the Freedom issue that is negated by the “better good” of the majority.

            Derp.

        • NewFormatSux says:

          If you suggest someone can change their sexual orientation, liberals ill be frothing mad at you, even try to have you thrown in jail. But go from man to woman, not a problem!

          • jpfitz says:

            If you’re dragging me into the religious perspective believing one can just show up to a building, sit in a chair, then have the gayness prayed out of body by the word of Christ, then yes, I draw the line there.

            That would be just stupid, at least in my eyes, live and let live. I’m not calling you stupid, just the concept.

          • bobbo, in point of fact says:

            NFS===it should not be too subtle for you to recognize that Bruces sexual orientation never changed. The exterior changes were to bring that externality into conformity with his true self.

            so many issues are not “either/or” but rather yin/yang and falling on a continuum. That is two different ways to view reality….and both do apply. Try to use BOTH views on a subject and see which ones give you better ideas/results/applications.

            Even if you want to restrict the universe to your own unexamined assumptions, do a mind experiment: you are you, but one day you wake up in the wrong body. What would you want to do? You can’t change your mental outlook….. so over time…. you change how you look to how you feel.

            OR===you do the opposite. How is one right or wrong? Just your choice, and your comfort level. Everything/all choices are GREAT===as long as other people leave you the f*ck alone.

            Leave other people alone, and it wont even matter if you change the tv channel or not because you won’t be listening to exhortations to go out and bother other people.

            Its true………………….

          • NewFormatSux says:

            Bobbo, if we are to accept that Bruce is a woman, then by definition he has changed from heterosexual to lesbian.

          • bobbo, in point of fact says:

            Gosh NFS==basic error to confuse internal motivations with external activities.

            Know what I mean?

    • McCullough says:

      I did not delete a comment by you. Must’ve been someone else.

  14. NewFormatSux says:

    From 1978:

    Feminists won’t be satisfied until every abortion is performed by a black gay doctor under an endangered tree on a reservation for handicapped Indians.

    They’d be a little upset with this line today.

    • jpfitz says:

      Well you or the writer pushed ALL the right/wrong buttons. Word mere words.

  15. Eric says:

    I think many of us agree that the Jenner thing is irksome, not because he did what he did, it doesn’t affect me personally….. But because it’s shoved down our throats constantly. And if we dont applaud his “courage”, somehow we are the ones who are intolerant bigots.

    He will however be laughing all the way to the bank, paid by the same group of morons who watch shit like the Kardashians.

    Turn the channel.

    • NewFormatSux says:

      He didn’t change from man to woman, but from Jenner to Kardashian.

    • jpfitz says:

      Agreed, but, I will live and let live on this gender stuff.

      Don’t watch any reality programs, never watched, well. yeah one…Fear Factor.

      “The Kardashians”, we CAN poke fun at the K’s BUT NOT THE, C? Clint Eastwood dropped a real fart on the stage about C during a recent taping of an awards show.

      Clint’s a real conservative and C doesn’t fit into his world. Eastwood’s prerogative, but when your writers tell you your joke will not fly don’t launch. I suppose Clint is pandering to a political base using his notoriety. Same as it ever was. Both parties pander.

  16. bobbo, in point of fact says:

    Lets dance on the nuance:

    Eric says:
    6/11/2015 at 7:40 am

    I think many of us agree that the Jenner thing is irksome, /// why would that be? Just his personal story. I find other peoples’ journeys and challenges and life lessons to always be interesting. Its why reading Biographies is so valuable. We all are on this Earth and each have many of the same challenges, some different, different approaches/reactions..different outcomes. Its good to recognize the matrix on which we operate.

    not because he did what he did, it doesn’t affect me personally….. /// Exactly so….Bravo!

    But because it’s shoved down our throats constantly. /// I enjoyed the word play whether intended or not. NOTHING in the media is shoved down your throat====>you have to gobble it.

    And if we dont applaud his “courage”, somehow we are the ones who are intolerant bigots. /// I agree if that is what you have gobbled up. But I see it only as another opportunity to learn that each of us have our own struggles…..and as you are half accepting…. to give others their space and leave them alone.

    He will however be laughing all the way to the bank, paid by the same group of morons who watch shit like the Kardashians. /// Rather harsh to Sports Fans…. but I agree. 2nd Read==I think the story is that money is money but personal fulfillment is often mostly unrelated to money. Bruce is pursuing the personal fulfillment issues right now….. the money is irrelevant.

    Turn the channel.

  17. SKINET says:

    Churchill’s Commentary:
    Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.

    As Shaw said, the best way to tell the truth is to to tell a joke. It’s the biggest joke there is.

    • Ken Linder says:

      one of the reasons I loved Carlin was his willingness to intelligently rip apart entrenched idiocy of the sort that has gotten us where we are now… He could make people LAUGH about the ass-holes at the top…slowly killing them… laugh about how less than 300 people now donate almost ALL the cash to Congress which means their MONEY makes their whims come true

      anyone who can get you to see that sort of grim truth and STILL have you on the floor laughing yourself nuts – that’s was a talented man

  18. NewFormatSux says:

    “I have come to believe that the accepted understanding of art as a weapon is not a useful guide but a straitjacket,” Maltz wrote in “What Shall We Ask of Writers?” He added that the concept meant to his comrades “that unless art is a weapon, like a leaflet, serving immediate political ends, necessities, and programs, it is worthless or escapist or vicious.”
    Read more at http://spectator.org/articles/63058/comedy-club-commissars

    • bobbo, in point of fact says:

      “Art” like every other (misused/misunderstood) label, is not just one thing.

      Buy and use a dictionary. Learn to juggle and be comfortable with ambiguity.

      Now……..the foregoing was a weapon…….but I don’t think it was art, nor a straitjacket. Hmmmmmm….its kinda like any expository writing?===>not just one thing?

      ……..course, if you stop living by labels…..politics will be lost to you.

      Choices.

      • jpfitz says:

        Art even includes watching noname and Pedro joust.

        • bobbo, in point of fact says:

          jp==good one. And I don’t watch them for the same reason.

          “Art” should be a personal activity–not a spectator sport, or worst, an investment.

  19. jpfitz says:

    ± says:
    6/11/2015 at 8:06 pm

    The severity of harm to innocent people described in the paragraph quoted could be a problem, an ethical and painful eye-full that would empty your stomach. Atrocities akin to most of Sharia, is a Muslim culture in a Facebook and YouTube connected world.

    Freedom can be a state of mind, as well as prison. We in USA have it pretty good still. I have no fix for the conundrum spelled out, nor any idea of how MENA can become a non issue, except to just ignore.


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